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Yardbomb posted:I mean honestly depending on where you live, owning a pistol or something for self defense isn't a bad idea, just don't own it for crazy reasons. Pistols are mainly good for committing suicide, they're pretty useless for any common self-defense scenario. Nobody should buy one for that purpose and it's real bad advice. Taitale posted:Isn't that normal for non-US western countries? NZ is the same, pretty sure Australia is too. It's complicated, but in most western countries the boy and girl scouts will be separate organizations under one umbrella organization. And that umbrella organization ranges from just being vague cooperation and control of trademark ownership to really close working depending on country. Of course, the US Boy Scouts has several programs that are mixed gender, like the Venturing program which is for boys and girls 13-21 or Sea Scouting for boys and girls 14-21.
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Yardbomb posted:I mean honestly depending on where you live, owning a pistol or something for self defense isn't a bad idea, just don't own it for crazy reasons. there wolf posted:Small benefit of Trump being a loose cannon I guess? I do enjoy the general indifference and contempt he presents to the religious right. Maybe he can disillusion enough of them that they go crawling back into their churches and out of the political sphere.
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# ? Jan 31, 2017 17:38 |
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Place knives and clubs around the house, pepper spray. Guns are dumb and won't come around quickly enough for you to help. Hell, take self-defense classes, there are plenty for gay and trans people - the willingness and skill to protect yourself is much more important than any tool.
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# ? Jan 31, 2017 17:46 |
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Guns for personal self defense are bad, but there is something to be said for their effectiveness as a mass deterrent in groups a la the old Black Panthers. I feel like a LGBT version of that would be a bad idea right now for all sorts of reasons, though.
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Shukaro posted:*dies by police-involved shooting/home invasion for being trans* Opening fire on American police is a great example of not being crazy!
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# ? Jan 31, 2017 17:55 |
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Tias posted:the willingness and skill to protect yourself is much more important than any tool. This. A nice side effect will be that one will realize that guns are neither a panacea nor the boogeyman.
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# ? Jan 31, 2017 17:55 |
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bitterandtwisted posted:Opening fire on American police is a great example of not being crazy! Exactly, I've got no illusions that I'm going to survive the raids, I just want to take one or two with me. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jan 31, 2017 18:00 |
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Shbobdb posted:Owning a gun for self defense is a crazy reason. Not really, having a regular old shotgun around to keep your home safe is pretty standard stuff for a lot of places, you live in a crummier area, somewhere more isolated or woodsy, things like that. Also glazier is a dumb/crazy sounding person and is on the reverse side as someone who probably shouldn't be allowed around any guns. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Jan 31, 2017 |
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Today in mixed messages, Trump is going to continue Obama's EO to protect federal contractors from discriminating against LGBT people.
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# ? Jan 31, 2017 22:17 |
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Instant Sunrise posted:Today in mixed messages, Trump is going to continue Obama's EO to protect federal contractors from discriminating against LGBT people. Probably just to make it seem more justifiable when they pass FADA. They want the fig leaf of saying "see the government doesn't discriminate, just private entities exercising their rights." Dipshits will see this as a "common sense compromise".
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# ? Jan 31, 2017 23:07 |
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SubponticatePoster posted:Unless you live in a cabin in the woods where you'll also encounter large hostile wildlife it's still a bad idea though. Or near a school! Those pesky classroom grizzlies are a menace, from what I hear.
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# ? Jan 31, 2017 23:38 |
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fishmech posted:Pistols are mainly good for committing suicide, they're pretty useless for any common self-defense scenario. Nobody should buy one for that purpose and it's real bad advice. Shut up fishmech. You know as little about firearms as you know about anything else.
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# ? Feb 1, 2017 09:27 |
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Liquid Communism posted:Shut up fishmech. You know as little about firearms as you know about anything else. Fishmech knows all....so fishmech knows everything about firearms?
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# ? Feb 1, 2017 09:34 |
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Liquid Communism posted:Shut up fishmech. You know as little about firearms as you know about anything else. He's right tho.
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# ? Feb 1, 2017 13:42 |
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So back in mid-November I called a few people I know who are involved in A.C.E. and got them talking about what was going on behind the scenes. (To be honest I let them lead me to Christ over the phone and when they were in the giddy glow of successfully "winning a soul" I got them talking. Its the cult version of getting someone drunk so they spill the beans. Not my proudest moment but I was curious how they were reacting.) Based on those conversations I was able to piece together the following analysis.Prester Jane posted:So on the topic of the Trump administration's plans for the future of education in America I have some interesting scuttlebutt to share. I recently checked in on some of the behind the scenes activity happening in Accelerated Christian Education and gleaned a few interesting tidbits. Mind you, I can't verify any of this, so take it with a grain of salt. That said, here are the highlights. In addition to Devos being selected for Secretary of Education there is another recent development in line with these projections. Jerry Falwell Jr. Says He Will Lead Federal Task Force on Higher-Ed Policy The Chronicle of Higher Education posted:Jerry L. Falwell Jr., president of Liberty University, has been asked by President Trump to head up a new task force that will identify changes that should be made to the U.S. Department of Education’s policies and procedures, Mr. Falwell told The Chronicle on Tuesday. For those who don't know who Jerry Falwell Jr. is, here is what he had to say about the 9-11 attacks: Jerry Falwell posted:The comments came as Falwell was appearing as a guest on Robertson's daily 700 Club program. Both expressed their sorrow and outrage over the attacks and advocated a strong response to the terror. Then Falwell elaborated on who, in addition to the terrorists who perpetrated the attacks, was responsible for them.
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Liquid Communism posted:Shut up fishmech. You know as little about firearms as you know about anything else. Sorry buddy, pistols are only good for committing suicide, and that's why you should never recommend them to people especially for "self-defense". Especially to a demographic of people already much more likely to attempt suicide due to ongoing oppression and harassment from society.
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# ? Feb 1, 2017 17:36 |
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Wow.
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fishmech posted:Sorry buddy, pistols are only good for committing suicide, and that's why you should never recommend them to people especially for "self-defense". Especially to a demographic of people already much more likely to attempt suicide due to ongoing oppression and harassment from society. This is a true statement. I'm an American from a hunting family. Rifles and shotguns rule, pistols drool.
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# ? Feb 1, 2017 17:48 |
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Prester Jane posted:So back in mid-November I called a few people I know who are involved in A.C.E. and got them talking about what was going on behind the scenes. (To be honest I let them lead me to Christ over the phone and when they were in the giddy glow of successfully "winning a soul" I got them talking. Its the cult version of getting someone drunk so they spill the beans. Not my proudest moment but I was curious how they were reacting.) Based on those conversations I was able to piece together the following analysis. It's there anyway to get this information out to a wider audience? I feel like the only way to stop this becoming an inevitability is to head it off early. Also don't start gun chat with fishmech ffs. Don't be that loving stupid.
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# ? Feb 1, 2017 17:52 |
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No worries.
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# ? Feb 1, 2017 17:59 |
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:It's there anyway to get this information out to a wider audience? I feel like the only way to stop this becoming an inevitability is to head it off early. I've emailed dozens of reporters and news agencies and even had a goon hook me up with an inside contact to a major media outlet. So far I haven't heard back from anyone no matter waht approach I try. Explaining what A.C.E is requires a loving novella with extensive citations and it is my guess that those emails are simply never read. So I've also tried sendin shorter emails trying to explain things in their simplest terms with the least grandiose language possible and I've still gotten nada. There is just no way to say: "Hey I was raised in a network of cult schools that the GOP has been secretly sheltering for years because of backroom dealings with a shadowy but incredibly Major conservative thinktank that you have probably never heard of. (Council for National Policy) These schools utilize trauma-based mind control techniques and literally treat children like they are pigeons in a Skinner Box. The "curriculum" of these schools is essentially strait up white supremacy and Christian theocracy that frames anyone not a part of the Christian Right as literal demon possessed agents of Satan that must be opposed and repressed at any cost. The children that come out of this environment are custom built office drones with an insider track to positions of influence within the GOP and have been steadily taking over GOP politics from the inside for decades."- in a simple manner. So for now I am directing my energy towards writing my new frameworks and waiting for a point in time where journalists/the public are hopefully a little bit more prepared to hear what needs to be said about A.C.E. and its sister programs.
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# ? Feb 1, 2017 21:51 |
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That quote is from Jerry Falwell Sr not Jerry Falwell Jr, luckily the former is long since dead.
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# ? Feb 1, 2017 21:57 |
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People like Kurt Cobain show us that even with shotguns, where there is a will, there is a way. The last thing suicidal people need period is access to any kind of effortless instant-off machine.
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# ? Feb 1, 2017 23:39 |
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Glazier posted:Exactly, I've got no illusions that I'm going to survive the raids, I just want to take one or two with me. Your life is worth more than that.
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# ? Feb 2, 2017 01:49 |
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The leak of the draft of the "religious freedom" EO is out. It's Mississippi all over again.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Your life is worth more than that. Besides, you won't take anyone out if they come to get you, they're too well trained and equipped.
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Thalantos posted:Besides, you won't take anyone out if they come to get you, they're too well trained and equipped. You never know, it's worth a try. Worse case scenario you can take yourself out before they get you.
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Glazier posted:You never know, it's worth a try. Worse case scenario you can take yourself out before they get you. Check yourself into a mental hospital immediately.
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fishmech posted:Check yourself into a mental hospital immediately. So in other words Check yourself before you wreck yourself?
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FWIW, these are some of the best numbers on SSM I have ever seen and it's a poll of only the religious. http://www.prri.org/spotlight/religious-americans-same-sex-marriage-service-refusals/ quote:New PRRI analysis, drawn from a data set of 40,509 interviews conducted throughout 2016 as part of PRRI’s American Values Atlas, reveals that most American religious groups support same-sex marriage and oppose religiously based service refusals.
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# ? Feb 6, 2017 23:36 |
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I mean it's nice, but I don't really put much stock into stuff like that making much of a difference. If people "not caring about" or "supporting" gays was in anyway meaningful Lawrence wouldn't have been necessary. The actual numbers that matter are who will be willing to campaign on our behalf, and oppose their representative with a change in vote or supporting a primary challenge. Ultimately people who vote for culture-warrior tea-party republicans without putting in any effort to dissuade them from fighting lgbt progress, or rolling it back, but say that they're "fine" with gays are functionally identical to frothing at the mouth homophobes. All their hand-wringing does is tell us that they're cowards, which we already knew. People like that have always preferred to use the state for their violence rather than get their own hands bloody.
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In "welcome to over a year ago" news; https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/a-leading-us-social-conservative-just-launched-a-mission-to?utm_term=.wvEKgWJ2g#.wn67dwYJd quote:One Russian lawmaker, chair of parliament’s budget committee Andrei Makarov, attended the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington where President Trump spoke on Thursday, where he was pictured with at least one member of Congress. RBC reported that Makarov was there in place of another MP, Duma Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Leonid Slutsky, who was originally invited but unable to attend. (Slutsky is one of several officials barred from entering the US after the invasion of Ukraine.) the religious right, Heritage/FRC/AFA/ADF, and the Republican Party are all incestuous with Russian government and the World Congress of Families (which rebranded itself International Organization for the Family). International Organization for the Family is funded by US fundie Christians. And others, too, but since it's abroad it's all dark money. The modern republican party is a big amorphous ball of white supremacy, misogyny, anti-semitism, pro-russian sentiment, and anti-democratic sentiment. America's opinions toward gays have changed so dramatically so fast because the hate groups fighting it moved their efforts off shore to countries with lax or no accounting regulations.
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Yup. It's actually making me wish I could GTFO, because the only way to make this bullshit stop that I've come up with so far is to re-run Sherman's March to the Sea, but starting at the Texas border this time and making sure to burn everything.
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# ? Feb 9, 2017 01:58 |
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North Carolina democrats are really beating that appeasement drum on HB2. Their latest repeal attempt is to acknowledge that evil bathroom crimes exist, even though they provably don't exist. http://patch.com/north-carolina/fortbragg/north-carolina-gov-proposes-compromise-hb2-repeal quote:As part of the repeal proposal, Cooper introduced the following propositions: Governor Roy Cooper posted:“I know North Carolinians are tired of hearing about this. HB 2 has divided us and stained our reputation. I’ve proposed a common sense compromise that will get HB2 off the books and address concerns on both sides," Cooper said in a statement. The only concern for republicans was stigmatizing and denigrating trans people. Their concerns should remain unaddressed, but golly gee, NC democrats really want this inconvenient issue to go away quietly.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 22:24 |
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Pull up, thread, you're about to summon the greater elemental of D&D gunchat Honestly I'm surprised he's not here yet, but nobody's said his name so I guess there's that.
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Bethamphetamine posted:North Carolina democrats are really beating that appeasement drum on HB2. Their latest repeal attempt is to acknowledge that evil bathroom crimes exist, even though they provably don't exist. Democrats continue to be worthless, film at 11.
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Pollyanna posted:Democrats continue to be worthless, film at 11. Depends on the state so let's not go whole hog on that one. Unfortunately the states where they're any good they tend to be the party in power anyway.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 22:58 |
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Wait, how is that unfortunate?
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 23:08 |
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Kfroog posted:Wait, how is that unfortunate? The "tougher crimes" part seems like a common sense compromise but it's inherently admitting that Trans people are probably rapists SOMETIMES and perpuates the bullshit that made HB2 a thing to start with.
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It's almost like HB2 was toxic for the entire state and caused massive backlash that hurt everyone. Of course the democrats want to get rid of it, but they're still dealing with a GOP legislature. The governor gets nothing but his state's continued suffering by not working with them and getting something out the door that fixes the problem.
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