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Quantum of Phallus posted:Here's another spoiler: Every DC film is gonna be poo poo They're all going to make hundreds of millions of dollars. Except maybe Aquaman.
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mng posted:He tries! Just like AffleckBat tried in BvS. Let's hope between the two of them trying it comes off as an entertaining movie that isn't baffling like BvS or forced and dumb like Suicide Squad. All signs point to poo poo though. 400+ minutes of Zach Snyder hasn't taught me to be optimistic it's suddenly going to feel like a completely different movie with characters I understand and care about.
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Feb 1, 2017 00:19
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Zach Snyder is doing Aquaman too? Why do they keep using him? Does he have some serious dirt on the WB chairmen or execs or something?
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Feb 1, 2017 00:22
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Feb 1, 2017 00:24
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mng posted:I love Jason Mamoa for his energy and acting, but he can't really do much if the script is kinda 'meh'. Has he ever been in anything good? Everything he's been in has been poo poo
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Feb 1, 2017 00:24
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hemale in pain posted:Has he ever been in anything good? Everything he's been in has been poo poo Yeah he was Khal Drogo on Game of Thrones.
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Feb 1, 2017 00:25
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Randarkman posted:Zach Snyder is doing Aquaman too? Why do they keep using him? Does he have some serious dirt on the WB chairmen or execs or something? He's not it's James Wan
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Feb 1, 2017 00:26
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PostNouveau posted:Yeah he was Khal Drogo on Game of Thrones. He has the single greatest line on the show: "These are questions for wise men with skinny arms."
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Feb 1, 2017 00:26
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Jonas Albrecht posted:Womder Woman does kinda look like poo poo sadly. They couldn't do WW2 because Captain America beat them to it, so they put it in the next easily available German punching bag of WW1. Because that makes sense when you want a clear cut bad guy for your punchmans movies.
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Feb 1, 2017 00:34
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Arcsquad12 posted:They couldn't do WW2 because Captain America beat them to it, so they put it in the next easily available German punching bag of WW1. Because that makes sense when you want a clear cut bad guy for your punchmans movies. Does she stop the invasion of Belgium?
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Feb 1, 2017 00:36
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DO IT TO IT posted:Nerd Orb *Rich, hat cocked sideways, seductive hand gestures* yeeeeah, grrrrrrrrl gonna peep that gunt gonna squeeze those norbs gonna scrunt that grundle
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Feb 1, 2017 00:36
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Arcsquad12 posted:They couldn't do WW2 because Captain America beat them to it, so they put it in the next easily available German punching bag of WW1. Because that makes sense when you want a clear cut bad guy for your punchmans movies. Germany, and the Central Powers, were plenty bad in WW1 as well, just not on the same order.
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Feb 1, 2017 00:39
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hemale in pain posted:Has he ever been in anything good? Everything he's been in has been poo poo If nothing else, he can give great speeches in pretend languages. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-6_WRDROdM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HqdSjdtPAQ He was also in the Conan remake which was... yeah, I guess he's can't single handedly save a bad movie.
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Feb 1, 2017 00:49
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Randarkman posted:Germany, and the Central Powers, were plenty bad in WW1 as well, just not on the same order. I mean they're weren't good but its a vastly different war to WW2 where one side are literal nazis and basically the icon of evil made manifest for the rest of human history and then theres WW1 germans who are ultimately about as bad as anyone else involved in a war thats basically about the very end of european imperialism and economic might bashing against eachother one last time as they've been fighting back and forth for the last 800 years or so to try and establish some clear winner. Nobody really wins the war, the european theater just kinda destabilizes and all the big powerhouses of the last century are severely diminished. It was a war that killed millions, engulf almost the entire world and it was mostly over Germany/Austria/France/England having one last dick swinging match over who made the best iron and who could gobble up the best colonies quick enough. kingcom fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Feb 1, 2017 00:52
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Wonder Woman better personally punch Fritz Haber in the face for making poison gas.
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PostNouveau posted:Yeah he was Khal Drogo on Game of Thrones. yea, but was he in something good? i jest but it's hard to count a tv series where he's just a side character who dies.
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Feb 1, 2017 00:56
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kingcom posted:I mean they're weren't good but its a vastly different war to WW2 where one side are literal nazis and basically the icon of evil made manifest for the rest of human history and then theres WW1 germans who are ultimately about as bad as anyone else involved in a war thats basically about the very end of european imperialism and economic might bashing against eachother one last time as they've been fighting back and forth for the last 800 years or so to try and establish some clear winner. Well there is the question of war guilt and the treatment of occupied populations and the harsh peace imposed upon the Russians, among others, but I'll leave it at that. It's an interesting topic to discuss, and I believe that the end result ends up not being as much "everybody was bad" as alot of people think. And the first World War was vastly different in essentially every way from every preceding European conflict.
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Feb 1, 2017 00:58
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Arcsquad12 posted:Wonder Woman better personally punch Fritz Haber in the face for making poison gas. I hope she rips his nobel piece prize off him (cause hes probably wearing that all day all the time idk) and says 'One day the Jewish people will regret inventing gas'
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Feb 1, 2017 00:59
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hemale in pain posted:yea, but was he in something good? He had screen presence, was able to seem fluent in a completely made up language so clearly he doesn't halfass his character study, and he made a convincing rapist too.
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Feb 1, 2017 00:59
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hemale in pain posted:yea, but was he in something good? i'm about to watch Road to Paloma so I'll let you know if he's good in it.
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Feb 1, 2017 01:01
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FrensaGeran posted:He had screen presence, was able to seem fluent in a completely made up language so clearly he doesn't halfass his character study, and he made a convincing rapist too. I'm still not a fan of Josh
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Randarkman posted:Well there is the question of war guilt and the treatment of occupied populations and the harsh peace imposed upon the Russians, among others, but I'll leave it at that. It's an interesting topic to discuss, and I believe that the end result ends up not being as much "everybody was bad" as alot of people think. Everything about WW1 is a hyper complicated mess of political and social bullshit that is enough to have an entire topic on, like the entire collapse of the Tsars and every nation in europe all panicking to try and put down the communists (except the US who hilariously supported them thinking this was a good idea and was going to be french revolution 2.0 for them) despite still actually being at war, both allies and enemies joined together to try and help them collapse and penalise them to discourage other people to follow. On top of that I feel the harsh peace imposed on the Germans had pretty big consequences too. Turns out every time you financially and socially gently caress a nation up the arse you just get supervillains later.
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JFC even the central premise of the wonder woman movie is not gonna make sense to me. Why WW1? Why is that the war she gets involved in? Like is that the one the american pilot flies his lovely bi plane out to sea to crash on amazon island? Is it just going to be an island everyone on mainland france can see from shore and never bothered to check out? Is it going to be an american sailor? Why is it going to matter when the wars almost over ? Why this war and not the millions of european slap fests that happened for centuries before hand. Am I going insane?
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Feb 1, 2017 01:10
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starkebn posted:He's way better than Emilia Clarke but that's like 99% of anyone on the show apart from that kid in the stables arya stabs in season 1
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kingcom posted:Everything about WW1 is a hyper complicated mess of political and social bullshit that is enough to have an entire topic on, like the entire collapse of the Tsars and every nation in europe all panicking to try and put down the communists (except the US who hilariously supported them thinking this was a good idea and was going to be french revolution 2.0 for them) despite still actually being at war, both allies and enemies joined together to try and help them collapse and penalise them to discourage other people to follow. On top of that I feel the harsh peace imposed on the Germans had pretty big consequences too. Turns out every time you financially and socially gently caress a nation up the arse you just get supervillains later. Here's a secret: The harshness of the Versailles Treaty has been grossly overstated. The stab-in-the-back myth arguably was much more infuential in sowing the ground for nazism than any perceived harshness of the Versailles Treaty, the fact that insulted German nationalists most about the treaty wasn't its harshness but the perception that they had not in fact been militarily defeated but been betrayed by mutineers, republicans, socialists, Jews and war profiteers, therefore it was seen as unjust. In fact Germany prospered following WW1, fuelled by generous American loans and investments (which also angered German nationalists, like the Nazis). In fact a problem with the treaty was that following the war the British and the Americans were not sufficiently committed to upholding the terms laid down by the Treaty which in part was what led the French to occupy the Rhineland (in response to Germany hyperinflating its currency to pay reparations, which they could largely finance through American loans anyway). But, yeah, should we end it? If you want to discuss this there's always PMs.
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kingcom posted:JFC even the central premise of the wonder woman movie is not gonna make sense to me. Why WW1? Why is that the war she gets involved in? Like is that the one the american pilot flies his lovely bi plane out to sea to crash on amazon island? Is it just going to be an island everyone on mainland france can see from shore and never bothered to check out? Is it going to be an american sailor? Why is it going to matter when the wars almost over ? Why this war and not the millions of european slap fests that happened for centuries before hand. Am I going insane? Look DC just needs a historic world war superhero-with-shield movie that doesn't directly copy Captain America ok? Just go with it.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Wonder Woman better personally punch Fritz Haber in the face for making poison gas. I just want an extended monologue where Wonder Woman details the flaws in the Schlieffen Plan.
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The Archaic posted:Look DC just needs a historic world war superhero-with-shield movie that doesn't directly copy Captain America ok? Just go with it. They don't actually need that. There was no reason to make the Wonder Woman movie a period piece.
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Randarkman posted:Here's a secret: The harshness of the Versailles Treaty has been grossly overstated. The stab-in-the-back myth arguably was much more infuential in sowing the ground for nazism than any perceived harshness of the Versailles Treaty, the fact that insulted German nationalists most about the treaty wasn't its harshness but the perception that they had not in fact been militarily defeated but been betrayed by mutineers, republicans, socialists, Jews and war profiteers, therefore it was seen as unjust. In fact Germany prospered following WW1, fuelled by generous American loans and investments (which also angered German nationalists, like the Nazis). In fact a problem with the treaty was that following the war the British and the Americans were not sufficiently committed to upholding the terms laid down by the Treaty which in part was what led the French to occupy the Rhineland (in response to Germany hyperinflating its currency to pay reparations, which they could largely finance through American loans anyway). I disagree that the reparations and humiliation of the treaty is that overstated. Everything about getting nazis and facism is a compounding thing imo where you have economic and social humiliation leading to requiring american investment leading to resentment and it all just kinda being individual logs thrown into the fire. France going full retard and taking pretty historic territory like that just provide a big excuse and banner waving opportunity to everything. Point is Europe goes from a inbred-hyper criss cross pattern of relationships, historical rivalries, partnerships, social tensions and economic shifts that is a super complex web all the way up to WW2 triggering off and in many ways resetting the board for who was important and who was friends with who. So you set something before that and its super interesting but its real tough say someone is a good guy or not. The Archaic posted:Look DC just needs a historic world war superhero-with-shield movie that doesn't directly copy Captain America ok? Just go with it. Should have set it during the 100 years war imo and show Wonder Woman not aging while killing english pigs??? She can have an important discussion about how its important to govern with laws but sometimes laws are also bullshit and gently caress a foreign crown taking over viva la france. She is Joan of Arc is what im getting at.
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I wish a damned superhero movie could just get the origin story poo poo out of the way with a montage behind the opening credits FFS. It the least interesting part and not what people want to watch.
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starkebn posted:I wish a damned superhero movie could just get the origin story poo poo out of the way with a montage behind the opening credits FFS. It the least interesting part and not what people want to watch. 100% agree. I almost wanted to cry when I realised the majority of Doctor Strange would be another loving marvel origin movie. Then like five minutes of it is set in the cool trippy plane. What a total waste.
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starkebn posted:I wish a damned superhero movie could just get the origin story poo poo out of the way with a montage behind the opening credits FFS. It the least interesting part and not what people want to watch. gently caress you its Forever!
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kingcom posted:I disagree that the reparations and humiliation of the treaty is that overstated. Everything about getting nazis and facism is a compounding thing imo where you have economic and social humiliation leading to requiring american investment leading to resentment and it all just kinda being individual logs thrown into the fire. France going full retard and taking pretty historic territory like that just provide a big excuse and banner waving opportunity to everything. Point is Europe goes from a inbred-hyper criss cross pattern of relationships, historical rivalries, partnerships, social tensions and economic shifts that is a super complex web all the way up to WW2 triggering off and in many ways resetting the board for who was important and who was friends with who. So you set something before that and its super interesting but its real tough say someone is a good guy or not. The Versailles Treaty isn't that relevant to the question of who was a bad guy or not during the war in the end. And Germany didn't require American loans, it got them and it kickstarted the German economy (and also made Germany very vulnerable when the Depression hit). Anyway, intriguing topic, not the proper thread for it (and very hard to stop discussing).
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I don't give a poo poo about superhero movies but I never understood why every movie has to be an origin movie. You can have cop movies without showing 40 min of them deciding to become a cop and how their time at the academy went. No, you just start with movie with them already a detective and drop hints of their origin or time as a rookie, if relevant, with dialogue.
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Super hero movies are loving poo poo and has ruined a generation of americans along with anime and harry potter.
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Baronjutter posted:I don't give a poo poo about superhero movies but I never understood why every movie has to be an origin movie. Because they're lazy garbage for nerds, who'll lap up any old poo poo.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Because they're lazy garbage for nerds, who'll lap up any old poo poo. Which is the weirdest part because the nerds already know the well established origin to their loving 50+ year old superheros. \/ Also the fact that they keep just re re re re booting every superhero so every movie is a slightly different origin story and maybe 1 more movie. I absolutely don't get the whole genre. Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Im fairly easy when it comes to cinema going and don't mind going to see a superhero film with friends but I flat out refused to see those recent Spider-Man reboots. gently caress off Sony. Another Spider-Man origin film is scurrilous.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:100% agree. I almost wanted to cry when I realised the majority of Doctor Strange would be another loving marvel origin movie. Then like five minutes of it is set in the cool trippy plane. What a total waste. How much of Dr. Strange is him talking to things with names like Raggadorr and Ikthalon and Watoomb? It's not much of it is it.
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