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Yes. The strategy she should take is say horrible poo poo but not accept endorsement from people who appreciate her horrible poo poo.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Okay that's it, I like PT6A even more now, I'm going to the hospital It's okay, I took him off ignore and survived
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Feb 1, 2017 05:50
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THC posted:There are a lot of honest-to-god leftists and NDP members (and NDP brass) who support pipelines because of the employment they will bring. They're good unionized jobs too, or so we're told. I really do speak from the political fringe when I talk about them. pipelines are a bunch of temporary work that ends when the construction is complete, and has a negligible impact on employment afterward. for example, DAPL in the US is slated to require a few dozen people to maintain when/if finished
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JawKnee posted:what are Canadian values? A smug sense of superiority at being Better Than AmericaTM
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PT6A is proof that there'S hope for people yet. The most canadian way of thinking.
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MonsieurChoc posted:PT6A is proof that there'S hope for people yet. The most canadian way of thinking. Hope is a lie, my friend. It is yet another cruel trick I've played on you.  Seriously, I don't think that I've changed that much. Maybe a little. But what you all need to be worried about much more is how much the Overton Window is shifting just now. Because when I seem reasonable all of a sudden, you know heinous poo poo is afoot.  Cease to Hope posted:pipelines are a bunch of temporary work that ends when the construction is complete, and has a negligible impact on employment afterward. for example, DAPL in the US is slated to require a few dozen people to maintain when/if finished Maybe if there were decent regulations, this would not be the case. Hire a human being to hike every inch of that bastard, every day, to check for leaks. No undetected leaks for extended periods, and lots of employment. Everyone wins!
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MonsieurChoc posted:PT6A is proof that there'S hope for people yet. The most canadian way of thinking. And yet ikantski seems to be rebounding in the opposite direction at the same pace. Hope is a lie.
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JawKnee posted:what are Canadian values? Pretending to not be racist while ignoring the plight of natives living on reserves.
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Cease to Hope posted:pipelines are a bunch of temporary work that ends when the construction is complete, and has a negligible impact on employment afterward. for example, DAPL in the US is slated to require a few dozen people to maintain when/if finished Ditto for BC. I think last I saw they were quoting 40 permanent jobs (  ) which probably actually means 20 or so. Wowwww that's worth the risk for literally no additional compensation.
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Alberta will never pay for its share of any oil spill that happens off the BC coast.
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OSI bean dip posted:Alberta will never pay for its share of any oil spill that happens off the BC coast. That's true. How is it our fault, though? Require pilotage; again, great paying jobs for skilled workers. Require performance bonds of ships operating in the areas. These are your rights, provincially, I would affirm.
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Feb 1, 2017 06:35
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If they want to sell this poo poo easy just buy people off. $50/year to each BC resident of legal age for the Alberta Prosperity Risk Sharing Fund. 90% of the pop loving sold right then and there.
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PT6A posted:And punching nazis. i can't believe i'm saying this but the world would be a much better place if more people were like you. this is a really mature, thoughful position
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PT6A posted:The weather is gorgeous 90% of the time if you don't mind cold, it's not very expensive, and it's loving beautiful. Better than being stuck in some assfuck valley in the interior where the fog lifts once per winter, even if there are slightly more trees around. I'm no economist but part of a nice place to live is having jobs. If we, for example, cut out resource extraction from Alberta all it would be left with is farming. Having a breadbasket region is important of course but it's not gonna make you enough money to pay for all the niceties that other richer provinces would have unless the richer parts of Canada pitch in to make life better for everyone (and we all know how that turned out). Ain't nobody livin in Toronto cause the weather or the view is nice that's for sure.
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Cease to Hope posted:pipelines are a bunch of temporary work that ends when the construction is complete, and has a negligible impact on employment afterward. for example, DAPL in the US is slated to require a few dozen people to maintain when/if finished Hey I never said I agree with those people
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Feb 1, 2017 08:28
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PT6A posted:Seriously, I don't think that I've changed that much. Maybe a little. But what you all need to be worried about much more is how much the Overton Window is shifting just now. Because when I seem reasonable all of a sudden, you know heinous poo poo afoot.
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It is a weird societal thing that food production isn't the richest industry when that is what enables all but about three vocations to exist
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richest in what way? I'm sure those mega farms are super rich.
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JawKnee posted:richest in what way? I'm sure those mega farms are super rich. If they're rich it's only on virtue of having so much land (how much does a farm like that have, while the subject's been brought up?). The margins for farming tend to suck, and afaik prices for stuff like wheat have been close to constant for at least a couple of decades, not keeping with inflation. E: Also small farmers are going to have a lot of trouble updating in the next couple of decades, automization will likely be both a blessing and a major curse because while it solves manpower issues for small farms, it gives farms with a lot of capital to invest an even bigger leg up while simultaneously forcing everyone without to keep up with the technology or see their margins shrink. TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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There'll be plenty of well paying service jobs for engineers, programmers and maintenance staff when whole swaths of the prairies become megafarms with robots tending fields the size of cities and support staff monitoring it all in a cubicle in downtown Calgary.
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As I stated earlier in the thread, the future will be that cities themselves will start producing their own food to minimize transport costs. It's what I'm trying to get started here because constantly bringing in basic staples from out of province is getting ridiculous as logistical costs keep rising. But it's hard to get old fucks to acknowledge this fact and think it means bulldozing half the city for a traditional farm.
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OSI bean dip posted:The death of Don Cherry cannot come soon enough. lol I was a member of that fb group and they banned my rear end the day following the tragedy for asking that another member, who had suggested that one of the admins felt sexual excitement from the thought of dead muslims, be reinstated. 2 days ago some of them were in full panic/damage control mode it was quite funny to see. It's not a right wing group, its more like a debate club for people from all over the political spectrum, hence the name, but it is mainly filled with alt right types. Id pay good money to see whats being said in there right now lol
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Stretch Marx posted:As I stated earlier in the thread, the future will be that cities themselves will start producing their own food to minimize transport costs. It's what I'm trying to get started here because constantly bringing in basic staples from out of province is getting ridiculous as logistical costs keep rising. But it's hard to get old fucks to acknowledge this fact and think it means bulldozing half the city for a traditional farm. Logistical costs will fall drastically in the next 10 years and the majority of Canadian cities can't grow a healthy and varied diet locally. It would cost far less to bring a truckload of lettuce from California in an automated electric truck than it would to grow it hydroponically in Edmonton mid winter. nevermind most fruit that we eat could never grow there. Powershift fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Staggering amounts of Saskatchewan farmland is already owned by Chinese and other international corporations. Agribusiness is now the the norm (note the critical denotative difference with agriculture). And these farms are massive. Like 10,000-20,000+ acres. (For reference, settlers were given a quarter section back in the day - 160 acres.) This is a huge difference from even a generation ago - my own grandfather had the largest farm in the area for decades, and I don't think he ever farmed more than 1500 acres. 15-20 years later (now) he would have had barely enough land to make his margins work. I worked on a locally-owned 7,000 acre farm for a season and even he was worried about getting squeezed out by Chinese business. Also, a lot of farming is already automated. Every combine and tractor comes with gps positioning. You just have to turn corners for it, but it quite happy to lock into straight lines and do the rest. Thanks to the nature of working the land (it rained so now half of the old Johnson section is under a foot of water and impossible to tell how close you can get without experienced human eyes) I am going to guess it is a long while before full automation happens. Stickarts fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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And one more semi-related thought - if we ever do end up in legit fuel shortages or restrictions, your mangoes in January will be the first thing to go. I'd be interested to hear what it was like in Canada's core areas, but here in the hinterland it wasn't till the 80s that tropical fruits started to show up year round. I'm constantly amazed by how quickly things can be normalised to the point of ubiquity.
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Trump is going to revamp the H1B program. This will lead to more companies hiring TFW tech in Canada. Great times ahead my friends.
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Stickarts posted:Staggering amounts of Saskatchewan farmland is already owned by Chinese and other international corporations. Agribusiness is now the the norm (note the critical denotative difference with agriculture). And these farms are massive. Like 10,000-20,000+ acres. (For reference, settlers were given a quarter section back in the day - 160 acres.). This is a huge difference from even a generation ago - my own grandfather had the largest farm in the area for decades, and I don't think he ever farmed more than 1500 acres. 15-20 years later (now) he would have barely enough land to make his margins work. And it's not just the chinese. The biggest agriculture trade show in western canada happens every year in red deer, and it's nothing but hundreds and hundreds of $100k pickups and escalades on farm plates. The guy with 2 quarters isn't doing all that well, but the larger business based farms are doing extremely well. The generation in power right now was raised by a generation where if you don't work you don't eat because the manpower was required to support food production. Machinery and now automation has us so far removed from that reality but the mentality remains so rigidly ingrained so the poors are poor because they are too lazy to bootstrap and we have no obligation to help them. If there was a fuel shortage, I would bet beef would disappear off the menu before mangos did. People willing to pay $3 for a mango will pay $6 for one. People paying $5 for ground beef won't pay $10. Nutrition quite clearly takes a back seat to economy when food is used more for economic utility than nutritional utility. Just like housing, think homeless people living outside of empty invenstment condos. Drought outside of the water bottling plant.
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OSI bean dip posted:The death of Don Cherry cannot come soon enough. If this is the beginning of the end for the alt-right/neo-nazi's I am all in.
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Vintersorg posted:If this is the beginning of the end for the alt-right/neo-nazi's I am all in. President Alt-Right was sworn in 12 days ago, this is the beginning of the beginning.
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vyelkin posted:President Alt-Right was sworn in 12 days ago, this is the beginning of the beginning. With the multitude of protesters every day I think the people just need a spark to really rise up and stomp this poo poo out.
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Vintersorg posted:With the multitude of protesters every day I think the people just need a spark to really rise up and stomp this poo poo out. You start
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Vintersorg posted:With the multitude of protesters every day I think the people just need a spark to really rise up and stomp this poo poo out. Haha, don't underestimate the number of people who support what Trump does. At least part of the reason the GOP isn't resisting Trump much beyond making statements but then bending the knee anyway is because their constituents love the poo poo Trump is doing.
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Postess with the Mostest posted:You start I'll go down in history. You're right -- here we go!
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Argas posted:Haha, don't underestimate the number of people who support what Trump does. At least part of the reason the GOP isn't resisting Trump much beyond making statements but then bending the knee anyway is because their constituents love the poo poo Trump is doing. Also, don't underestimate the number of those people who got into law enforcement for an opportunity to beat the poo poo out of people. Yeah, the protestors have people on the streets holding signs, but the trumpeteers have people on the street holding riot shields. Remember when people protested bush at his inagguration, and then he didn't do anything bad and then was voted out after 4 years? https://www.salon.com/2001/01/21/protests_8/
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Powershift posted:Also, don't underestimate the number of those people who got into law enforcement for an opportunity to beat the poo poo out of people. When my cousin was graduating from high school, he said he wanted to be a cop. His dad was so proud of him, he announced that he was going to be "bustin' up the darkies." Yeah.
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Powershift posted:Also, don't underestimate the number of those people who got into law enforcement for an opportunity to beat the poo poo out of people. The protests are uplifting to see but the election just happened and that was the last chance for Americans to do something for another two years. The GOP may be nervous about what Trump is doing but as long as their voters love it, they won't dare kill the goose that lays golden eggs.
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Ya as much as I like to vent on the Internet I'll be honest I'm not quite yet ready to take a tear gas grenade to the face.
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