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I like what i've seen from Kaaya. I feel like he's worth a 2nd round pick and could be a decent starter early on. Too bad he's fron the ACC and probably trash
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schweens posted:I like what i've seen from Kaaya. I feel like he's worth a 2nd round pick and could be a decent starter early on. Too bad he's fron the ACC and probably trash ACC is the best conference though. Also has the best QBs.
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Browns are trying to trade for Jimmy G. If Haslam can't have Belichick he'll have his castoffs.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Browns are trying to trade for Jimmy G. If Haslam can't have Belichick he'll have his castoffs. Rotoworld is saying that the 12th overall pick and a 3rd or 4th should get it done. Even Cleveland can't be that stupid, can they?
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No Butt Stuff posted:Rotoworld is saying that the 12th overall pick and a 3rd or 4th should get it done. and a 3rd or 4th? That seems...excessive. Who exactly is the other team offering up a first-rounder?
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evilweasel posted:and a 3rd or 4th? That seems...excessive. Who exactly is the other team offering up a first-rounder? No one. I'm guessing that it's more posturing to try to get more out of Jimmy G than he's worth.
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Coldforge posted:https://twitter.com/AFCEastBros/status/825916850735308800 Holy poo poo if this is true, I"m sorry Bills fans. No Butt Stuff posted:No one. I'm guessing that it's more posturing to try to get more out of Jimmy G than he's worth. There is no way Jimmy G is worth a first rounder. Jimmy G+another draft pick is most likely. People were flipping out when Bradford was overpaid for and he was at least a competent QB this year, there is no history with Garrapolo. If I were Cleveland I wouldn't overpay at all, make someone else do it and get Romo or Cutlers corpses draft and develop QBs. extendedsolo fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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evilweasel posted:and a 3rd or 4th? That seems...excessive. Who exactly is the other team offering up a first-rounder? Probably niners if they whiff on cousins.
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Do the TFF draft like a real fantasy league. You have X amount of time to respond or you get an autopick selection from Dalto's draft board. Or worse yet, Mel Kiper.
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I'm still laughin' at the "goon drafts are the slowest moving object observable in the universe" crack from earlier.
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extendedsolo posted:Holy poo poo if this is true, I"m sorry Bills fans. If they feel he's better than anyone in this QB class, he's worth a first rounder. Remember, Cleveland has #1, #12 and #33 so they could easily end up with 3+ 1st round picks after trades.
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Bigass Moth posted:If they feel he's better than anyone in this QB class, he's worth a first rounder. Remember, Cleveland has #1, #12 and #33 so they could easily end up with 3+ 1st round picks after trades. Part of the reason he's would be worth a first rounder is if he were cheap for another 2 years. He only has 1 more year left. Whereas you could pick a building block at 12, for a team that has so many needs, and keep them for 4 years cheapish. It's going to be way better to hope and try to sign Garrapolo to a FA contract. The best ways to approach it would require a little hope, but really HOPE that the Pats hang on to him and then he hits FA. He would probably get a massive deal. Or that he goes to a new team and walks. I mean really at this point Kirk loving Cousins would be a better option. Wait for him to not get paid by the Redskins. I just think it's stupid to trade that much for a guy that has shown so little.
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On the other hand, are they just supposed to roll with RG3/Kessler and probably lose 13-14 games or roll the dice on what might be a good starter? Same difference as drafting someone, and the Browns have a ton of cap space so the salary overhead isn't a huge concern.
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Bigass Moth posted:On the other hand, are they just supposed to roll with RG3/Kessler and probably lose 13-14 games or roll the dice on what might be a good starter? Same difference as drafting someone, and the Browns have a ton of cap space so the salary overhead isn't a huge concern. If the Pats believe he's a good starter they wouldn't let him get away. That or it would cost a lot more than the exorbitant 1st & 4th or whatever they're claiming they want in return as an opening position. Yeah Brady looks like he can play until he's 50 right now but so did Favre the year before it was over.
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They also spent another high draft pick on Brissett last year, which should tell you all you need to know about what they think of Jimmy.
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No QB with 1 year on his rookie deal is garnering a pick in the teens. Even the Browns wouldn't do that. Garoppolo has also arguably proven the least of the available trades. Maybe 31/32 + G for the 12 and a mid round pick would be an OK value.
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Brady is on serious chemicals and takes his conditioning way more seriously than Favre ever did. He's not going out any time soon, barring a severe injury which he won't be able to recover from.
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Eifert Posting posted:No QB with 1 year on his rookie deal is garnering a pick in the teens. Even the Browns wouldn't do that. Garoppolo has also arguably proven the least of the available trades. That's what I am hoping for. This is a rare time I am OK with this trade.
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Do not trade for Jimmy G. The 12th pick could get you a good starter on defense or the o-line. If I'm the Browns I would much rather take my chances on whoever is around in the 2nd at QB whether its Kaaya, Kizer, or even Allen from Montana. Speaking of QBs, is Patrick Mahomes any good? I've seen his name pop up in different discussions but I'm also seeing him rated as just a late round project with terrible mechanics.
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Malik Hooker will miss the combine. Out 4-6 months. http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2017/02/79777/malik-hooker-out-4-6-months-after-hernia-and-labrum-surgeries
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Reaching for a QB, be it Garappolo or someone in the high/mid-first, seems like a wasted opportunity for the Browns. See which raw QB with potential is available in the 2nd or later, pick up BPA in the first, and use 2017 to continue accumulating assets and rebuilding Raiders-style. The QBs in the 2018 draft surely can't be a worse batch than this years, and they have so many holes that they can't afford to use multiple picks to move up for a project.
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lol Cleveland has drafted the safe bet first and QB second like every single draft the past decade Go big. Trade for Jimmy. But not a goddamn 1+3.
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schweens posted:Speaking of QBs, is Patrick Mahomes any good? I've seen his name pop up in different discussions but I'm also seeing him rated as just a late round project with terrible mechanics. He's the toolsiest of tools guys, I love him as a developmental pick. He's probably going to rise up way higher than he should go and not get the chance to sit and develop though, he's going to need time. In addition to everything air raid his footwork in particular is just completely awful, and his arm is good enough that he sees no problem throwing off his back foot across his body, which isn't going to fly at the next level and frankly got him into trouble at Tech way too often. There's a quote I can't find right now from Patrick Mahomes Sr (his dad, who is a character himself) about one of Aaron Rodgers ridiculous throws: "Holy poo poo there's only two guys on the planet that can make that throw, and I'm proud to say my son is one of those motherfuckers." He might be more right than wrong, the problem is Mahomes is willing to try that poo poo constantly with not great mechanics. The good news is most of his stuff is in theory fixable with good coaching and time to learn. e: Put it this way, I want the Chiefs to draft him, but if they do I want Alex Smith to finish out his contract that ends after 2018. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Grittybeard posted:He's the toolsiest of tools guys, I love him as a developmental pick. He's probably going to rise up way higher than he should go and not get the chance to sit and develop though, he's going to need time. In addition to everything air raid his footwork in particular is just completely awful, and his arm is good enough that he sees no problem throwing off his back foot across his body, which isn't going to fly at the next level and frankly got him into trouble at Tech way too often. This is an absolutely perfect take on Mahomes. Bravo.
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Grittybeard posted:He's the toolsiest of tools guys, I love him as a developmental pick. He's probably going to rise up way higher than he should go and not get the chance to sit and develop though, he's going to need time. In addition to everything air raid his footwork in particular is just completely awful, and his arm is good enough that he sees no problem throwing off his back foot across his body, which isn't going to fly at the next level and frankly got him into trouble at Tech way too often. Sounds like the type of guy someone will definitely reach for. I think the Cardinals would be a good fit if not the Chiefs
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If the Bills trade up for loving Mitch Trubisky I will renounce my fandom and stop rooting for the team. Okay, well, actually no, but I *will* be really angry about it and post "Fire Whaley" a lot while secretly rooting for Mitch to become the GOAT.
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kittenmittons posted:Malik Hooker will miss the combine. Out 4-6 months. gently caress. I wanted him at 3 for the bears. maybe they luck out and get him top of the 2nd round and Allen in the first
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Amy Pole Her posted:lol Cleveland has drafted the safe bet first and QB second like every single draft the past decade Their past scouts and GMs made some woefully bad decisions when it came do determining the "safe bet", and reached on Manziel and Weeden among other poor selections. However, it would be too results-oriented to look at that and conclude that it's time to gamble their assets on Jimmy f'n G. If they go BPA and other teams reach on the meager list of QBs (as it currently stands, we'll see how the hype goes in the coming months) then they'll trot out another reclamation project and 3 of the top 33 picks (barring some trades).
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fsif posted:If the Bills trade up for loving Mitch Trubisky I will renounce my fandom and stop rooting for the team. I am proud of you
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kalensc posted:Their past scouts and GMs made some woefully bad decisions when it came do determining the "safe bet", and reached on Manziel and Weeden among other poor selections. However, it would be too results-oriented to look at that and conclude that it's time to gamble their assets on Jimmy f'n G. If they go BPA and other teams reach on the meager list of QBs (as it currently stands, we'll see how the hype goes in the coming months) then they'll trot out another reclamation project and 3 of the top 33 picks (barring some trades). Brady Quinn was widely considered a safe bet and that didn't work out so well either. With so much draft capital I don't see how anyone can throw bones at the Browns for trading a mid round first for a QB if they believe in that player.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Brady Quinn was widely considered a safe bet and that didn't work out so well either. And his price was a 2nd round pick(the Chiefs also got Vrabel).
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:I guess the quibble is: on what is their (hypothetical) belief in Jimmy G based? I have no idea because he has really only played in 1.5 games. And one of those games he literally had weeks to prepare for and the other was against a team that was total dogshit at the time.
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:I can see Arians coveting Mahomes Arians has been pretty cagey about what he wants out of a QB... he's ripped colleges in general for working out of the shotgun, and then we go and get logan thomas. You watch mahomes and he could do basically anything. That tech team was good because of him and bad because their defense would give up 50+ points regularly.
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hifi posted:Arians has been pretty cagey about what he wants out of a QB... he's ripped colleges in general for working out of the shotgun, and then we go and get logan thomas. Thomas was a VT qb, like Bruce himself
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Obviously the Browns will give a 1+3 for Jimmy G because they're the Browns
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Hello draft thread, how is the punter crop this year? Colts should definitely trade up in the 2nd for that Bama punter.
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