Animation Thread 2017: "These Movies don't cater to the 25-40 demographic"

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Hedrigall: Mar 27, 2008; by vyelkin

Macaluso posted:

Morning Report is one of the worst things I have ever seen in my entire life on this planet. I hate that song to death

But the chimps are going ape, giraffes remain above it all
The elephants remember, although what I can't recall
The crocodiles are snapping up fresh offers from the banks
Showed interest in my nest egg but I simply said no thanks!
We haven't paid the hornbills and the vultures have a hunch
Not everyone invited will be coming back from lunch!
Ha ha...

# ? Feb 2, 2017 05:36

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# ? May 9, 2024 06:45

Hedrigall: Mar 27, 2008; by vyelkin

I Won't Say I'm In Love was a total :aaaaa:

moment for me when I rewatched the movie last year, the first time since it had been in cinemas. I simply had no idea that song was so good! It honestly elevates the movie, which I had written off for a lesser Renaissance effort for ages.

Edit: Sorry for all the double posting! When this thread is moving I don't get any work done, I :justpost:

# ? Feb 2, 2017 05:38

Unmature: May 9, 2008

I remember popping the Lion King DVD in at a friend's house and when Morning Report came on I felt like I was having a stroke.

# ? Feb 2, 2017 05:42

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Macaluso posted:

Morning Report is one of the worst things I have ever seen in my entire life on this planet. I hate that song to death

# ? Feb 2, 2017 05:45

Hedrigall: Mar 27, 2008; by vyelkin

Unmature posted:

I remember popping the Lion King DVD in at a friend's house and when Morning Report came on I felt like I was having a stroke.

TBH it fits much better in the stage musical when there are like 6-8 other extra songs (including Nala's song Shadowland which is phenomenal) but as a bonus song in the movie it doesn't really stand up next to the main 5 songs. Feels a bit anemic. But the lyrics are super clever so I still really like it ok

# ? Feb 2, 2017 05:46

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

I like the songs in Lion King 2 better than the extra songs in the musical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glDGAo9SIqs

# ? Feb 2, 2017 05:47

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Unmature posted:

I remember popping the Lion King DVD in at a friend's house and when Morning Report came on I felt like I was having a stroke.

Yep. Had no idea it was a thing and then blam.

# ? Feb 2, 2017 05:47

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJGqxf86cZs

Zira is my inappropriate Lion King universe crush :colbert:

# ? Feb 2, 2017 05:50

Das Boo: Jun 9, 2011; There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

Hedrigall posted:

I Won't Say I'm In Love was a total moment for me when I rewatched the movie last year, the first time since it had been in cinemas. I simply had no idea that song was so good! It honestly elevates the movie, which I had written off for a lesser Renaissance effort for ages.

Edit: Sorry for all the double posting! When this thread is moving I don't get any work done, I

I watched it with my sister the other week and she sheepishly told me this was her favorite song and that she felt silly about liking the love song so much. I reassured her by saying I think it's the best song in the movie and, to my knowledge, is widely regarded as such.
She felt better. :3:

# ? Feb 2, 2017 05:55

Hedrigall: Mar 27, 2008; by vyelkin

Pick posted:

I like the songs in Lion King 2 better than the extra songs in the musical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glDGAo9SIqs

Very very good. Cam Clarke can sing about family to me all day :swoon:

I used to have this part of the movie clipped out as a .mov on my oldschool video iPod. And watch it over and over...

Pick posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJGqxf86cZs

Zira is my inappropriate Lion King universe crush .

No shame

# ? Feb 2, 2017 05:56

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

apart from Rowan Atkinson not singing I don't get the hate for morning report :shrug:

# ? Feb 2, 2017 06:00

Das Boo: Jun 9, 2011; There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

I'm also watching An American in Paris for the first time and right there's where Linguini was gonna throw Remy into the water, fog n' all. :stare:

# ? Feb 2, 2017 06:02

YggiDee: Sep 12, 2007; WASP CREW

Hedrigall posted:

TBH it fits much better in the stage musical when there are like 6-8 other extra songs (including Nala's song Shadowland which is phenomenal) but as a bonus song in the movie it doesn't really stand up next to the main 5 songs. Feels a bit anemic. But the lyrics are super clever so I still really like it ok

I saw the musical twice when I was younger (once with my family, once with my school) and I'm pretty sure Shadowland is flat out my favorite Disney track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJqaxkBRro

He Lives In You is also extra good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T239kqN7yq4

Anyway the musical impacted me enough that when I watch the original movie I still get a brief moment of "Oh right Rafiki was a dude in this one"

# ? Feb 2, 2017 06:03

Macaluso: Sep 23, 2005; I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

starkebn posted:

apart from Rowan Atkinson not singing I don't get the hate for morning report

It's a bad song and it ruins the scene

# ? Feb 2, 2017 06:06

Hedrigall: Mar 27, 2008; by vyelkin

Now I've seen Moana I really really appreciate this

and really really wish it was real. Hey, maybe they'll reanimate the whole movie with anthropomorphic animals as a bluray bonus feature for Moana :getin:

# ? Feb 2, 2017 06:11

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

I actually think Moana's people as a race of cats would have been thematically appropriate and also super cute.

# ? Feb 2, 2017 06:13

Macaluso: Sep 23, 2005; I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Hedrigall posted:

Now I've seen Moana I really really appreciate this

and really really wish it was real. Hey, maybe they'll reanimate the whole movie with anthropomorphic animals as a bluray bonus feature for Moana

I'd be okay with them literally just reanimating You're Welcome with cat people. Little cat Meowana and big square cat Meowi

edit:
That bunch of catnip all on the ground?
Oh that was Meowi just messin around
I killed a bird
And brought you his guts
Now that you're pettin me I'm goin nuts

Macaluso fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Feb 2, 2017

# ? Feb 2, 2017 06:27

Hedrigall: Mar 27, 2008; by vyelkin

Meowana straight up just disembowls and eats Heihei and Pua in scene 1. Refuses to go anywhere near water, let alone travel across it. Movie ends.

:3:

# ? Feb 2, 2017 06:34

Drifter: Oct 22, 2000; Belated Bear Witness; Soiled Meat

starkebn posted:

um, so being naive I thought the new BotB might have been a retelling of the story or something but it looks like a purely "I KNOW WHAT THAT IS! YOU KEEP HITTING HOME RUNS DISNEY!" movie. An almost shot for shot remake basically, pathetic.

Sounds almost like what the new Star Wars was. Disney sure knows its fans...the rabid nostalgtards.

...and the furries, too, I guess. I don't want to exclude Hedrigall. :glomp:

# ? Feb 2, 2017 07:02

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Macaluso posted:

I'd be okay with them literally just reanimating You're Welcome with cat people. Little cat Meowana and big square cat Meowi

edit:
That bunch of catnip all on the ground?
Oh that was Meowi just messin around
I killed a bird
And brought you his guts
Now that you're pettin me I'm goin nuts

Oh my gosh :3:

# ? Feb 2, 2017 07:05

starkebn: May 18, 2004; "Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Macaluso posted:

It's a bad song and it ruins the scene

But how? I think it's kind of catchy

# ? Feb 2, 2017 07:07

Hedrigall: Mar 27, 2008; by vyelkin

The pun game is strong in Morning Report.

I do prefer the original pouncing scene to the one they shoehorned into the middle of the song, so I can see why people think it ruins that part of the movie. Also Simba's voice changes dramatically because they recorded it years after the movie was made. It wasn't a cut song from the original production.

That's why I say it works way better on stage. It's not cutting rudely into some beloved, flawless piece of art in that context.

Drifter posted:

I don't want to exclude Hedrigall.

It's nice to feel loved :blush:

# ? Feb 2, 2017 07:15

Robindaybird: Aug 21, 2007; Neat. Sweet. Petite.

I won't say I'm in Love is really unique for Disney love songs for a lot of reasons - Meg has a lower register than most leading ladies, and it's a very sardonic tone that disney usually doesn't go for - and it speaks out to all the people who had suffered heartbreak and been burned on romance - especially in the case of being betrayed.

It acknowledges love is not smooth, but the ending and the movie showed that yes, it's possible to find love again.

# ? Feb 2, 2017 08:06

Aces High: Mar 26, 2010; Nah! A little chocolate will do

Pick posted:

I like the songs in Lion King 2 better than the extra songs in the musical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glDGAo9SIqs

so did Matthew Broderick just not want to sing in these movies or something? Did they not like his singing voice?

# ? Feb 2, 2017 08:41

SomeJazzyRat: Nov 2, 2012; Hmmm...

Unmature posted:

Is there any kind of overarching plot? Or is it just episodic like most of the TV show? Does it progress the lore of the first four seasons?

From what I remember (It's been like 2 years since I've looked at them), it's a number of multi-part stories with the occasional one offs, all of which are (for the most part) disconnected from one another. So it can go from a five part epic to a two part bit of fluff to a poignant one shot then back again, with no real through line between them. The goal seemed to be recapturing the feeling of the show in the format of sequential art. To the extent that, if you were to adapt them directly, they would feel right at home between two random episodes. Still probably best to read in order of issue number, but don't get too hung up on it. The most 'lore' heavy they go is to reintroduce characters like The Scotsman and The Thief, but otherwise the most they expect you to know is already in the expository intro.

The only other thing of note is that it ends on what could've been a fantastic note to end the entire saga, but then Tartakovski had to go make a 5th season. Jerk.

Also, check out the Powerpuff Girls comic from around that time (obviously pre-reboot). It took a very similar faithfulness to it's source, but told it's story in a somewhat more serialized fashion, akin to the superhero comics the series was inspired by. And the surprisingly decent Mr. Peabody and Sherman (technically) movie tie in comic from around that same time. The art had an almost Anime, almost Alt-Comic, almost New Yorker style to it, with decently humorous writing to it.

# ? Feb 2, 2017 10:05

A Wizard of Goatse: Dec 14, 2014

Hedrigall posted:

Talking of which...

Buy thing. Throw out other thing.

man they took Beavis's character design in a weird direction

# ? Feb 2, 2017 13:56

Boxman: Sep 27, 2004; Big fan of

Hedrigall posted:

Now I've seen Moana I really really appreciate this

Hedrigall posted:

The pun game is strong in Morning Report.

Just out of idle curiosity, what percentage of your appreciation of furry stuff is rooted in bad animal puns?

# ? Feb 2, 2017 15:02

Robindaybird: Aug 21, 2007; Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Okay, woke up with the thought: Meg really is quite different from the rest of the Disney ladies. She's cynical compare to the cheerful optimism most of the Princesses have, was nominally working for the villain, even if it was against her will, and it's never outright stated, but it's pretty certain she's quite a bit older than Hercules - whereas most of the others are either the same age or younger than their male love interest.

# ? Feb 2, 2017 15:36