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xzzy posted:None of them survived the episode anyways. So whatever they were, there's three less of them. Pretty sure Hammond's 430 made it? It was still running perfectly at the end.
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T1g4h posted:Pretty sure Hammond's 430 made it? It was still running perfectly at the end. Oh right, forgot about it. Apparently Hammond's car has a little story behind it: http://www.motoringbox.com/cars/entertainment/the-grand-tour/the-story-behind-richard-hammonds-1988-maserati-430-from-the-grand-tour/ Nothing eye opening, just that the PO got pressured hard to sell it.
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Gay Nudist Dad posted:The right weirdo will be pretty happy about this Vespa 400 but I don't know if they fetch much money. Those look like cartoons! They liked the little things enough to throw a 4 speed onto that tiny engine, and I love the little blurb there about performance quote:With only 14 hp (10 kW), top speed is 50 to 55 mph (80 to 90 km/h), depending on road grade, wind conditions, etc. Achieving top speed takes a leisurely 25 seconds. Fuel economy is about 5L/100 km.
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Darchangel posted:I reckon that Honda Z600 and the Tatra V8 there will bring a decent amount. Studes in decent shape might bring a few bucks. The Tatra 600 is a flat-4.
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The Door Frame posted:Those look like cartoons! They liked the little things enough to throw a 4 speed onto that tiny engine, and I love the little blurb there about performance Christ, the NSU Prinz I had was a loving Ferrari F40 compared to that thing.
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The Door Frame posted:Those look like cartoons! They liked the little things enough to throw a 4 speed onto that tiny engine, and I love the little blurb there about performance
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1964 GM-X Stiletto   BEST INTERIOR  
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What even are all those gauges?
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Gorilla Salad posted:What even are all those gauges? Genuinely no idea and it seems nobody else has an idea either. It's all aircraft jet age inspired so who knows?? To get in the car you have to climb through the rear hatch. Also it was apprently reworked into the Pontiac Cirrus a few years later.  Can we take a second to appreciate the Charger III?   ...and what's going on here?? 
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Air brakes The Cirrus looks more like a superboat than anything else Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Feb 2, 2017 |
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NoWake posted:There's an absolutely insane auto auction coming up this summer, back in my old stomping grounds. It's supposed to be about 700 cars in total. The owner was "planning to start a museum" but that obviously never got off the ground, all vehicles are currently rusting away in various fields, barns, and abandoned retail buildings in Norwalk, Ohio. gently caress yes! Thank you for this. I am in Marietta so I will definitely be making a trip to attend this.
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xzzy posted:Oh right, forgot about it. Apparently Hammond's car has a little story behind it: I'm not exactly the biggest fan for the trio, but I wouldn't really call that being pressured into selling it. It's not the like tale of lobsterboy's (I think) car where he had a agreement to buy it back in good condition and they wrecked it.
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uh, guys... it's a photoshop, but still. GnarlyCharlie4u fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Feb 2, 2017 |
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Louvers! On an MX-5!  
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I love the look of it, but the blind spots on the Miata targa look loving huge.
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CharlesM posted:Pretty sure it's a Tatra 600 aka Tatraplan. Yes it is and it's my favourite car ever. Even more than the Yugo 45. Ugh I'm so in love.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:1964 GM-X Stiletto That's nice Jr. Auto Designer, but what if I fart?
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Ola posted:I've always visualized the exhaust as being pushed out at as slowly as the intake air comes in. Not sure why I did that. That's how a two stroke works. 
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The proper one is called 'Eventer' and is really well done.  
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Olympic Mathlete posted:1964 GM-X Stiletto 1960s GM design departments must have been super fun to work in. Holden Torana GTR-X    
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God, American cars have fallen so far.
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Meanwhile, while Gm designers were dicking around with aero poo poo, the engineers..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CAN5nO1ag0 well the engineers discovered cocaine. Then figured out how to make a car run on it, and GM management was like "coal, just say the powder is coal"
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n0tqu1tesane posted:That's how a two stroke works. Definitely a non-zero chance I'm missing something here, but the engine in the video is a four-stroke. A wasted spark one at that.
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glyph posted:Definitely a non-zero chance I'm missing something here, but the engine in the video is a four-stroke. A wasted spark one at that. Yes, the engine in the video is a four stroke, but the one he described in "how I thought it worked" is a two stroke.
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xzzy posted:Blame aerodynamics and safety regulations. Their competition does better at fuel economy and safety, so that's probably not the root cause.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:1964 GM-X Stiletto  The way the sides extend forward past the grille, the wide popup headlights, and the way the side windows and windshield flow together are the most apparent things that carried over.
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n0tqu1tesane posted:That's how a two stroke works. After watching that video of how quickly the exhaust gasses vacate the cylinder on a four-stroke and applying this knowledge to what I know about two-stroke engines (very little) I'm going to hazard a guess that the exhaust gasses leaving the cylinder in a two-stroke creates a small vacuum that aids in pulling fuel and air into the combustion chamber at the same time. Which I guess is why exhaust tuning is so important on two-strokes and holy poo poo I feel like I get (on a theoretical level) two-stroke engines now. Edit: Is this why I've heard some two-strokes describes as something like "self-supercharging" or similar?
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Previa_fun posted:After watching that video of how quickly the exhaust gasses vacate the cylinder on a four-stroke and applying this knowledge to what I know about two-stroke engines (very little) I'm going to hazard a guess that the exhaust gasses leaving the cylinder in a two-stroke creates a small vacuum that aids in pulling fuel and air into the combustion chamber at the same time. That's right. The exhaust port on a two stroke opens before the inlet. High pressure flue gas exits rapidly through the exhaust port and it momentum along with the downward piston motion pulls in the fresh fuel-air mixture. Positioning and shape of these ports is critical for the performance of the engine and the rev range where they operate.
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Previa_fun posted:Edit: Is this why I've heard some two-strokes describes as something like "self-supercharging" or similar? It goes a bit beyond that, if you have a massive exhaust chamber with a constriction at the end, it creates a high-pressure wave that reflects backwards into the cylinder. With the right length, it'll hit right before the piston blocks off the exhaust port, pushing some of the (usually overly) scavenged air-fuel mixture back into the cylinder and giving a slight compression boost. Here have a gif:  E: Think of it like tuning intake runners. You generally optimize for power at peak RPM. E2: VV I'd never heard of that before, that's awesome! But yeah with the total loss oiling 2-strokes are pretty much doomed to power tools due to emissions. Fender Anarchist fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Feb 3, 2017 |
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Enourmo posted:It goes a bit beyond that, if you have a massive exhaust chamber with a constriction at the end, it creates a high-pressure wave that reflects backwards into the cylinder. With the right length, it'll hit right before the piston blocks off the exhaust port, pushing some of the (usually overly) scavenged air-fuel mixture back into the cylinder and giving a slight compression boost. And to take this even further: the pipe as pictured is tuned for one particular RPM band because at any other RPM the timing of the pulse from the pipe won't be right. That's fine for applications where a transmission can keep the engine operating at that tuned RPM band. With 2-stroke PWC (jetski) engines, there's no transmission and you need power over a wide band. The ingenious solution is to inject water into the head pipe (transition from exhaust manifold to tuned chamber) on a sort of RPM-dependent curve. The water cools the exhaust gases down, consequently slowing them down, effectively lengthening the pipe. The end effect is that you get a variable length exhaust pipe that makes the power band nice and wide. Probably nearly obsolete tech now as 2-stroke PWC engines aren't really a thing anymore except for some very special applications.
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Chemmy posted:Their competition does better at fuel economy and safety, so that's probably not the root cause. Their competitors also have meaningful competition that causes them to improve over time. American cars operate in this bizarro monopoly, despite making what end up being generally worse vehicles than their foreign counterparts. All anyone has to do is just look at the fetid gene pool that is American Trucks to know that American companies face too little pressure to update their most basic design elements. Chevrolet was putting cast iron OHV's into Suburbans in TYOOL2016, Chrysler just can't stop themselves from putting iron pushrod engines into everything that they can, and hell, if it wasn't for Donald Peterson, Ford would probably still be trying to shove those lumpy Windsors into their vehicles. Iron is really goddamn heavy and doesn't come up to operating temperature nearly as fast as aluminum does, which is getting more important tas emissions regulations are going to continue getting tighter across the globe... In less frustrating topics, today I saw a beautiful Corvair pickup outside of a local garage with the garage's logo on the side. I want to stop by and ask them about it, but really, I just want to hear that all American H6 run for a while
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The Door Frame posted:American cars operate in this bizarro monopoly, despite making what end up being generally worse vehicles than their foreign counterparts. Have you been in a coma since the 90s?
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Enourmo posted:E2: VV I'd never heard of that before, that's awesome! But yeah with the total loss oiling 2-strokes are pretty much doomed to power tools due to emissions. Or marine engines. Or marine-engined dragsters 
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Q_res posted:Have you been in a coma since the 90s? It's possible that I have. I also really want to have a pickup that I can enjoy driving, but since small trucks like Rangers and S-10's died out, and American trucks are now similar in size or larger larger than the comically oversized Hummer H1, I resent every backwards aspect of their designs. More than just the lackluster aesthetic or driving performance aspects of their design, the American Truck also has a large tax protecting them from competition and relaxed emissions and crash test standards that allows them to not have to worry about changing their outdated designs. Especially frustrating since they're expected to be both commercial and passenger vehicles, despite the fact that so few consumers use them for anything other than commuting. If you think I'm completely full of poo poo, look at the explosion in the market for small work vans in America. The truck market is so resistant to change that people who would normally buy smaller trucks and use them as trucks for their business now buy vans instead. Vans can actively change to meet the demands of their consumers. Consumers that don't want a +4L V8, trailrating, and the ability to tow a flatbed trailer full of bricks, consumers that just want a fuel efficient vehicle that has enough space and power to carry their tools/equipment around, but also fits in regular parking spaces on the street and doesn't suck to drive in E: straight from the horse's mouth on the introduction of the van that is synonymous in America with work vans https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Sprinter#North_America posted:For 2003, DaimlerChrysler introduced a Dodge branded version of the Sprinter to the North American market. It was identical to the Freightliner Trucks version except for minor styling details and badging. Rather than redesign the aging Dodge Ram Van which had used the same basic body and layout since the 1970s and was discontinued in 2003, DaimlerChrysler chose to replace it with the Sprinter. The Door Frame fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Feb 3, 2017 |
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