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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I feel like Watchmen has actually gone down in esteem over the years, when it first came out it got some very positive reviews, including a 4-star one from Ebert, but nobody really seems to remember that. Really? I feel like I've seen more people have positive things to say about it as time has gone on.
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the two major nerd reactions to watchmen when it first released that i remember were 'wow i can't believe how faithful it is to the comic' and 'wow i can't believe how unfaithful it is to the comic by removing the psychic squid monster'
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Feb 3, 2017 20:27
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Brother Entropy posted:the two major nerd reactions to watchmen when it first released that i remember were 'wow i can't believe how faithful it is to the comic' and 'wow i can't believe how unfaithful it is to the comic by removing the psychic squid monster' see I recall the prevailing reaction at the time being "Well, it's a lot better than it could've been," but over time, particularly after Snyder's Superman movies, those same people got a lot less forgiving.
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Feb 3, 2017 20:30
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ThePlague-Daemon posted:I fixed them. Ugh, god damnit. This is much more upsetting to me than I think it should be.
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Feb 3, 2017 20:31
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I actually gave Watchmen another go maybe a month or two ago and I still really dig it. Outside of Malin Akerman, that's a pretty near perfect cast all the way around.
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Feb 3, 2017 20:32
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Timby posted:I actually gave Watchmen another go maybe a month or two ago and I still really dig it. Outside of Malin Akerman, that's a pretty near perfect cast all the way around. I don't really care for it but it's the one Snyder movie I agree is visually gorgeous. edit: please don't start throwing batman vs superman screenshots at me to objectively prove that it is gorgeous
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Feb 3, 2017 20:34
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I don't really care for it but it's the one Snyder movie I agree is visually gorgeous. It is.
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Feb 3, 2017 20:36
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I think part of the increased appreciation for Watchmen has to do with the superhero film landscape finally catching up to what the comics were doing 30 years ago. More people "get" the Nite Owls' relationship thanks to Ant Man, Laurie & Manhattan have shades of Wanda & Vision, the Comedian is very Winter Soldier, and Ozymandias is what might happen to Iron Man if he didn't have people calling him on his bullshit all the time.
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Feb 3, 2017 20:51
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:edit: please don't start throwing batman vs superman screenshots at me to objectively prove that it is gorgeous *closes folder "BvS Caps for Boogey"* dammit
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Feb 3, 2017 20:52
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I feel like Watchmen has actually gone down in esteem over the years, when it first came out it got some very positive reviews, including a 4-star one from Ebert, but nobody really seems to remember that. I like Watchmen decently, and I don't really get why people's esteem of it has dropped so sharply. Is it as good as the comic? gently caress no. Is it also pretty much the best adaptation of the comic we could ever reasonably get? Yep.
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Feb 3, 2017 21:05
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MacheteZombie posted:Really? I feel like I've seen more people have positive things to say about it as time has gone on. I liked it from its release, and I also liked the comics when I read them in the 80s.
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Feb 3, 2017 21:06
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People have totally been making GBS threads on Watchmen lately, and pretty much the only reason I can figure is that it shares a lot of stylistic elements with BvS and people who hated BvS have to find Snyder's "original sin."
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Feb 3, 2017 21:08
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Tezcatlipoca posted:It is. Until Doomsday shows up anyway.
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Feb 3, 2017 21:11
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K. Waste posted:You know what, I wanna see Saulnier direct a non-fiction or graphic memoir comic. Let him do Safe Area Gorazde, let him really stretch his legs. Saulnier should do a movie adaptation of Invincible and make it just as graphic.  And if you're wondering about the outcome of the fight. 
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Feb 3, 2017 21:31
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I'm curious about watching BvS as just a Batman movie (removing Superman-only scenes) and just a Superman movie (removing Batman-only scenes), and seeing if each separately still works. Batman wouldn't see Lois Lane until the very end, and Superman wouldn't meet Wonder Woman until even closer to the end. Scenes like the US Capitol explosion might be interesting without Batman's reaction or with ONLY Batman's reaction.
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Feb 3, 2017 22:16
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The Ultimate Cut of Watchmen is actually pretty amazing. It's 3 hours and 35 drat minutes long plus includes the animated feature integrated in the film.
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Feb 3, 2017 22:30
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Hollismason posted:The Ultimate Cut of Watchmen is actually pretty amazing. It's 3 hours and 35 drat minutes long plus includes the animated feature integrated in the film. The Black Freighter segment is awful, though. The director's cut is absolutely the way to go with Watchmen.
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Feb 3, 2017 22:35
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Timby posted:The Black Freighter segment is awful, though. The director's cut is absolutely the way to go with Watchmen. That was something I was really hoping Snyder would have directed.
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Feb 3, 2017 22:50
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Crows Turn Off posted:I'm curious about watching BvS as just a Batman movie (removing Superman-only scenes) and just a Superman movie (removing Batman-only scenes), and seeing if each separately still works. Batman wouldn't see Lois Lane until the very end, and Superman wouldn't meet Wonder Woman until even closer to the end. Scenes like the US Capitol explosion might be interesting without Batman's reaction or with ONLY Batman's reaction. Holy poo poo, great idea.
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Feb 3, 2017 22:56
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I like Watchmen decently, and I don't really get why people's esteem of it has dropped so sharply. Is it as good as the comic? gently caress no. Is it also pretty much the best adaptation of the comic we could ever reasonably get? Yep. I liked the original plan to make it contemporary, and have it be directed by the guy who did Bourne Supremacy
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Feb 3, 2017 22:57
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Timby posted:The Black Freighter segment is awful, though. The director's cut is absolutely the way to go with Watchmen. Correction, Tales from the Black Freighter is good on its own accord. But, yeah, it's interpolation in the Ultimate cut is pretty heinous.
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Feb 3, 2017 22:59
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ruddiger posted:Saulnier should do a movie adaptation of Invincible and make it just as graphic. Man, the comic is rough. I happened to pick it up while killing time at a comic shop and was shocked. If I remember correctly, the main teenage character is fighting his space dad and in the process breaks both of his own hands and keeps punching and fighting with the compound fractured stumps. The whole idea is he can sustain horrific damage but can't die? I haven't read it in great detail, but weren't like the first 50 issues or something a standard teen super hero drama with no gore?
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Feb 3, 2017 23:14
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ThePlague-Daemon posted:I fixed them. drat, those look real.
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Feb 3, 2017 23:14
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Violator posted:Man, the comic is rough. I happened to pick it up while killing time at a comic shop and was shocked. If I remember correctly, the main teenage character is fighting his space dad and in the process breaks both of his own hands and keeps punching and fighting with the compound fractured stumps. The whole idea is he can sustain horrific damage but can't die? I haven't read it in great detail, but weren't like the first 50 issues or something a standard teen super hero drama with no gore? No it was extremely gory from the end of the first story arc.
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Feb 3, 2017 23:25
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Violator posted:Man, the comic is rough. I happened to pick it up while killing time at a comic shop and was shocked. If I remember correctly, the main teenage character is fighting his space dad and in the process breaks both of his own hands and keeps punching and fighting with the compound fractured stumps. The whole idea is he can sustain horrific damage but can't die? I haven't read it in great detail, but weren't like the first 50 issues or something a standard teen super hero drama with no gore? It's more like the first five, then it gets crazy.
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Feb 4, 2017 00:37
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I like Watchmen decently, and I don't really get why people's esteem of it has dropped so sharply. Is it as good as the comic? gently caress no. Is it also pretty much the best adaptation of the comic we could ever reasonably get? Yep. Yeah, Watchmen is one of those thing that is so connected with its medium that it would be really hard into a truly classic movie, but Snyder gave as good a shot as anyone could have. I always say that regardless of how much you like the movie, it's easy to think that it's the best Watchmen movie possible. In other news, Doug Benson is the voice of Bane in Lego Batman, which is really really funny to me and a very small segment of other people.
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Feb 4, 2017 00:51
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Invincible is cartoonishly gory, far more so than Kirkman's other, more famous series
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Feb 4, 2017 00:57
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I'm not sure if there's anyone working in comics who I find less interesting than Kirkman.
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Feb 4, 2017 01:40
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Hodgepodge posted:I'm not sure if there's anyone working in comics who I find less interesting than Kirkman. He's extremely bad.
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You know what I love about Invincible? How it's so over the top violent and gory and unnecessarily bloody and not a single bit of nudity and no swearing. If it was at all self aware I'd swear it was commentary on something
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Burkion posted:You know what I love about Invincible? so it's american media values: the comic
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Feb 4, 2017 02:29
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I started reading Kirkman's Wolfman because I dug the art, and it was almost impressive how each new issue was worse than the one before.
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Hodgepodge posted:I'm not sure if there's anyone working in comics who I find less interesting than Kirkman. He is an interesting experiment in being deliberately mediocre. Sue Grafton is less paint by numbers.
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Feb 4, 2017 02:38
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Feb 4, 2017 04:55
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Hollismason posted:I enjoyed the animated Tales of the Black Freighter If that's the case might I recommend you give Justice League Dark a watch? Should be right up your alley.
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Feb 4, 2017 05:38
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Well that's just mean Drifter
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Feb 4, 2017 05:40
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Drifter posted:If that's the case might I recommend you give Justice League Dark a watch? Should be right up your alley. Don't be lovely.
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Feb 4, 2017 05:43
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Justice League Dark is fine as long as you treat it as a long lost Justice League episode or something, but it does not stand as a movie. The fight scenes are interesting though.
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Feb 4, 2017 05:53
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Shageletic posted:Very cool that they're keeping with the Maori theme in Aquaman. All the Atlanteans that have been casted in the movie are caucasian: Amber Head as Mera, Patrick Wilson as Orm, and Willem Dafoe as Vulko. But yes, it's pretty cool that they're making Arthur Curry half Polynesian, half Atlantean.
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The original Black Freighter wasn't like ground breaking or anything I thought it was a pretty faithful adaptation. I find it more impressive that they actually filmed it.
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