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Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

in other news jfc this looks rad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ3ZTxWHM74

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EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Mako's been dead ten years now, who's gonna voice Aku?

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

Mako's been dead ten years now, who's gonna voice Aku?

looks like its new aku followers and old audio clips

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
Grown men watching cartoons itt

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

lite_sleepr posted:

Grown men watching cartoons itt

Every Guard Weekend I turn the TV in the break room to Boomerang.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

lite_sleepr posted:

Grown men watching cartoons itt

Dude, it's the internet. The only three types of dudes are cartoon watchers, gun nuts and body builders arguing about how many days there are in a week

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

as a cartoon nerd samurai jack is fun as hell

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Booblord Zagats posted:

Dude, it's the internet. The only three types of dudes are cartoon watchers, gun nuts and body builders arguing about how many days there are in a week

There's definitely more than three types, as there's anime people, and regular cartoon people. Don't confuse an Archer or Sealab fan for something Japanese.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


CommieGIR posted:

Every Guard Weekend I turn the TV in the break room to Boomerang.
Supposing we live long enough I'm going to switch all the CCTV channels to Cartoon Network on my way out the door.

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
I will watch Tom and Jerry all day.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

lite_sleepr posted:

I will watch Tom and Jerry all day.

same but looney toons or underdog

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

No Grand Tour this week :sigh:

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

No Grand Tour this week :sigh:

thanks ebb

Naked Bear
Apr 15, 2007

Boners was recorded before a studio audience that was alive!
Well, at least we only have to wait just shy of nine months for more Stranger Things.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Naked Bear posted:

Well, at least we only have to wait just shy of nine months for more Stranger Things.

poo poo pissed me off wtf

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

So redoing my mom's internet setup.

I got a Nighthawk R8000. Cox gave her some 3-in-1 whatever piece and said the other modem I had in there was obsolete, which is probably true as it's 6+ years old.

1. What's a good standard modem that will handle most anything? There is a lot of people using the WIFI at once. She doesn't have any crazy super high speed internet though.

2. I'm moving the setup to a more central point in the living room. There's a coax cable for the TV already. Is there any issue splitting the signal? I was thinking maybe run a separate line for both--is that needed? If it's fine splitting what's a good one to get?

If there's anything else I need to know lmk

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

So redoing my mom's internet setup.

I got a Nighthawk R8000. Cox gave her some 3-in-1 whatever piece and said the other modem I had in there was obsolete, which is probably true as it's 6+ years old.

1. What's a good standard modem that will handle most anything? There is a lot of people using the WIFI at once. She doesn't have any crazy super high speed internet though.

2. I'm moving the setup to a more central point in the living room. There's a coax cable for the TV already. Is there any issue splitting the signal? I was thinking maybe run a separate line for both--is that needed? If it's fine splitting what's a good one to get?

If there's anything else I need to know lmk

Arris Surfboard SB6141 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem

If you're looking for a modem that has 12 bonded pairs (good for like 300Mbps up/ 150 mbps down) and good enough in home wifi, this is the way to go, alternatively disable the wifi. It's good either way, and its a pretty solid modem.

E: This is the one with the wifi stripped out, it's the same performance as their 110 dollar modem without the wifi.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Feb 7, 2017

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

-missed the edit :downs:


orange juche posted:

Arris Surfboard SB6141 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem

If you're looking for a modem that has 12 bonded pairs (good for like 300Mbps up/ 150 mbps down) and good enough in home wifi, this is the way to go, alternatively disable the wifi. It's good either way, and its a pretty solid modem.

E: This is the one with the wifi stripped out, it's the same performance as their 110 dollar modem without the wifi.

Ah ok, so the one you linked me is a router only but has a wifi option. Probably use that and the Nighthawk since they're supposed to be really good routers.

She's archaic and I'm trying to get her to get rid of her phone line, which was part of the reasoning for the 3-in-1. So now there will be a coax cable where her office/computer, is so unless we run an ethernet cable that'll need a whole other separate modem for VOIP? She says she just needs fax, which she really doesn't, but whatever. What are the good online fax services I can try to coerce her into using that simple enough for a grandma?

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP

LITERALLY SHAKING posted:

There's definitely more than three types, as there's anime people, and regular cartoon people. Don't confuse an Archer or Sealab fan for something Japanese.

I like both, what does that make me?

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

So redoing my mom's internet setup.

I got a Nighthawk R8000. Cox gave her some 3-in-1 whatever piece and said the other modem I had in there was obsolete, which is probably true as it's 6+ years old.

1. What's a good standard modem that will handle most anything? There is a lot of people using the WIFI at once. She doesn't have any crazy super high speed internet though.

2. I'm moving the setup to a more central point in the living room. There's a coax cable for the TV already. Is there any issue splitting the signal? I was thinking maybe run a separate line for both--is that needed? If it's fine splitting what's a good one to get?

If there's anything else I need to know lmk

What do you mean "splitting the signal"? Iirc, the Cox modem should have a coax out jack for TV and a single ethernet for internet. Also landline jacks. I'm assuming you mean you want a router to attach to that? It would run off the ethernet connection.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Mr. Mambold posted:

What do you mean "splitting the signal"? Iirc, the Cox modem should have a coax out jack for TV and a single ethernet for internet. Also landline jacks. I'm assuming you mean you want a router to attach to that? It would run off the ethernet connection.

She's renting the 3-in-1, so would be returning that and using the Nighthawk router and modem suggested above.

In the living room, where those will be going, there is a TV w/cable. So I would run a splitter at the coax to go to both the modem and TV cable box

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Kuroyama posted:

I like both, what does that make me?

Respectable depending on the level of shame you feel over the anime.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

-missed the edit :downs:


Ah ok, so the one you linked me is a router only but has a wifi option. Probably use that and the Nighthawk since they're supposed to be really good routers.

She's archaic and I'm trying to get her to get rid of her phone line, which was part of the reasoning for the 3-in-1. So now there will be a coax cable where her office/computer, is so unless we run an ethernet cable that'll need a whole other separate modem for VOIP? She says she just needs fax, which she really doesn't, but whatever. What are the good online fax services I can try to coerce her into using that simple enough for a grandma?

Get rid of her phone line, and get Vonage or whatever, it takes an ethernet cable from your router into the vonage box and it has 2x regular phone jack outputs, and fax works fine on it. She won't notice any difference between vonage or whatever and what she has currently, but the Vonage bill will be about half what she pays now for her phone.

Same dial tone, same call functionality, everything works just like normal, even 911 works, as setting a 911 address is part of the initial setup (which you will do if you are a good son).

E: yeah return the drat 3 in one, get Vonage, and use her internet to carry her phone without bundling the phone in, they probably charge more than the vonage bill for the rental of the 3 in one and the bundle in of phone service.

Splitters work fine for internet, just don't put too many splitters on and have your modem as close to the run out (on the first splitter, or ideally on its own jack if possible) of the house as possible.

Each splitter drops your signal by about 3.5 dB, so putting the modem behind two splitters drops your signal by a third.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Feb 7, 2017

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP

LITERALLY SHAKING posted:

Respectable depending on the level of shame you feel over the anime.

I just like cartoons and comics that come from Japan. I feel shame for the full-on weeaboos, because someone has to.

That cool?

SwampDonkey
Oct 13, 2006

by Smythe

(and can't post for 4 years!)

orange juche posted:

Get rid of her phone line, and get Vonage or whatever, it takes an ethernet cable from your router into the vonage box and it has 2x regular phone jack outputs, and fax works fine on it. She won't notice any difference between vonage or whatever and what she has currently, but the Vonage bill will be about half what she pays now for her phone.

Same dial tone, same call functionality, everything works just like normal, even 911 works, as setting a 911 address is part of the initial setup (which you will do if you are a good son).

E: yeah return the drat 3 in one, get Vonage, and use her internet to carry her phone without bundling the phone in, they probably charge more than the vonage bill for the rental of the 3 in one and the bundle in of phone service.

Splitters work fine for internet, just don't put too many splitters on and have your modem as close to the run out (on the first splitter, or ideally on its own jack if possible) of the house as possible.

Each splitter drops your signal by about 3.5 dB, so putting the modem behind two splitters drops your signal by a third.


Another option because Vonage seems expensive when compared to something like OBi + google voice which = no monthly payment.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

orange juche posted:

Get rid of her phone line, and get Vonage or whatever, it takes an ethernet cable from your router into the vonage box and it has 2x regular phone jack outputs, and fax works fine on it. She won't notice any difference between vonage or whatever and what she has currently, but the Vonage bill will be about half what she pays now for her phone.

Same dial tone, same call functionality, everything works just like normal, even 911 works, as setting a 911 address is part of the initial setup (which you will do if you are a good son).

E: yeah return the drat 3 in one, get Vonage, and use her internet to carry her phone without bundling the phone in, they probably charge more than the vonage bill for the rental of the 3 in one and the bundle in of phone service.

Splitters work fine for internet, just don't put too many splitters on and have your modem as close to the run out (on the first splitter, or ideally on its own jack if possible) of the house as possible.

Each splitter drops your signal by about 3.5 dB, so putting the modem behind two splitters drops your signal by a third.

Yeah the issue is her fax machine is in her room/office which is a bit away from where I plan on setting everything up. So we'd have to run an ethernet line through the attic or maybe try one of those powerline adapter.

The line to the living room is fairly close to the source and I don't think it is split before that, so it would be the first split on that line. Are splitters mostly the same or are their ones that will carry/boost the signal a bit more? Would the quality of internet via splitter still be affected if no one is watching cable TV?

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
How much of a dad am I for being excited that new memory foam contour pillows came in? Can't wait to try those out here in a few minutes at my 9:00p.m. bedtime.

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP

lite_sleepr posted:

How much of a dad am I for being excited that new memory foam contour pillows came in? Can't wait to try those out here in a few minutes at my 9:00p.m. bedtime.

You sure you'll be okay staying up this late?

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003
I had an earl grey w/o sugar.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

Yeah the issue is her fax machine is in her room/office which is a bit away from where I plan on setting everything up. So we'd have to run an ethernet line through the attic or maybe try one of those powerline adapter.

The line to the living room is fairly close to the source and I don't think it is split before that, so it would be the first split on that line. Are splitters mostly the same or are their ones that will carry/boost the signal a bit more? Would the quality of internet via splitter still be affected if no one is watching cable TV?

Splitters are mostly the same, there may be really lovely ones that drop more dB (the dB loss will be stamped on the splitter body somewhere), but there are powered coax amps if you are going to be using a lot of splitters. The street box should be good for a cable modem and 3 TVs minimum, which should satisfy almost any house. You won't experience any signal gain/loss if people are watching TV, it's the splitters themselves that drop the signal strength, and the only thing that would happen with the cable modem losing signal strength due to too many splitters, is it might take a bit of a hit on speed or you might experience a drop once in a long while, but sunspots and poo poo will do that anyways.

The only general rule is modem on first splitter before anything else. Once you get your ethernet off your modem, you only have to worry about the 300 ft limit for CAT5/CAT6 transmission.

The other general rule is the more complicated you make this poo poo, the more time you will spend working on it for free when your mom has a problem with it.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Feb 7, 2017

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Alright, thanks for the help! It'll be source > splitter > modem and cable TV box so should be alright then.


Only issue is figuring out the phone if she absolutely must keep it. So probably a powerline Ethernet adapter, don't think we can relocate the fax/printer. That should work fine for this no?

Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Feb 7, 2017

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Kuroyama posted:

I just like cartoons and comics that come from Japan. I feel shame for the full-on weeaboos, because someone has to.

That cool?

Whatever floats your boat, dude.

Honestly, no one should look for justification from me on their cartoon habits. I'm just that overly vocal rear end in a top hat at the town bar that bullies people about things. So watch tentacle porn all you want, just expect at minimum a good natured ribbing over it if you talk about it publicly.

But not everyone likes a pothead, so I have my own social stigma that drives off people in droves. Besides the crazy beard.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

Alright, thanks for the help! It'll be source > splitter > modem and cable TV box so should be alright then.


Only issue is figuring out the phone if she absolutely must keep it. So probably a powerline Ethernet adapter, don't think we can relocate the fax/printer. That should work fine for this no?

Also, powerline adapters work really good and are awesome and keep you from drilling holes in poo poo to run cables.

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Powerline-Adapter-Starter-TL-PA4010KIT/

This is the cheapest one-and-done buy i can find, comes with the one you will put in your closet for the source, and the one that will be in the office for the vonage/voip whatever. You can buy more adapters if you need them.

E: if you're worried about people getting into your network, use the ones that use encryption to protect the powerline signal, but I don't really see a problem with the cheaper one.

orange juche fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Feb 7, 2017

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

I don't get how that poo poo works at all. Blows my mind

So probably have the modem/router in the living room coming off the splitter, and then run a powerline adapter from the router to the room where the fax/phone is so the Ethernet can go into the VOIP modem there?

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
It's all copper lines anyhow. I've read that they can be problematic if you're trying to run them to rooms on the opposite sides of the junction box but IDK if there's any truth, and if your house has realllly old wiring it can be kinda poo poo too. I've considered trying them out with wifi extenders but I'm not there yet.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

I don't get how that poo poo works at all. Blows my mind

So probably have the modem/router in the living room coming off the splitter, and then run a powerline adapter from the router to the room where the fax/phone is so the Ethernet can go into the VOIP modem there?

Yeah pretty much, if you can run everything else off of wifi, do so. It is much easier to worry about wifi than loving with wired networking, if it were a new house I would say to get the electrician to wire up a networking closet but eh. Its not worth running wired poo poo in an old house unless you're a network guru.

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
no fucking Anime in GiP

LITERALLY SHAKING posted:

Whatever floats your boat, dude.

Honestly, no one should look for justification from me on their cartoon habits. I'm just that overly vocal rear end in a top hat at the town bar that bullies people about things. So watch tentacle porn all you want, just expect at minimum a good natured ribbing over it if you talk about it publicly.

But not everyone likes a pothead, so I have my own social stigma that drives off people in droves. Besides the crazy beard.

That's one of the few things I've picked up from my time in the military. How to enjoy anime and similar nerdy poo poo without going full weeb.

My coworkers in another shift need to learn that, along with basic hygienic decency.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
Controversial opinion: it's okay to like things and be passionate about them. But JFC don't be weird about it!

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Used to be a "network closet" in the garage. But the wifi was poo poo from the garage so I had to put a LAN router in it to run the ethernet to a more central point where the wifi router could be. It worked well enough but Cox removed it all and IDK. The wiring is still there but I'd have to start at the garage again and yeah this is probably the easiest way.

Are powerlines pretty efficient? The living room spot to where the phone that needs ethernet would be is about, oh, 30 meters? Not like it needs crazy bandwith or anything so I can just get a low tier one. This would be the complete opposite side of the house where the "junction box" is.

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orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

Are powerlines pretty efficient? The living room spot to where the phone that needs ethernet would be is about, oh, 30 meters? Not like it needs crazy bandwith or anything so I can just get a low tier one.

It's definitely good enough for what you're looking for, the cheapest ones are 200mbps, but it varies depending on if your lines are garbage, but VOIP and a fax line doesn't take more than 64kbit/s, which is not even a drop in the bucket of the capacity of even the cheapest powerline adapter.

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