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MikeJF posted:I'm sure the new guy will have studied general sciency stuff and be qualified all over general sciency stuff too. But everyone's got a weird speciality. If they ever mention it it's usually astrobiology or mathematics of quantum neutrino fields or something. And of course 20th century historian.
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Holy poo poo it was delayed again? Jesus Christ, get Bashir to mind wipe me so I stop waiting for this show.
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Feb 6, 2017 14:05
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Even with all the delays it's had less dev time than any other trek show, CBS was high when they first scheduled it.
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Phimosissy posted:mathematics of quantum neutrino fields or something. And of course 20th century historian. That's what Chef studied, to make really good wonton burrito meals.
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Kingtheninja posted:Holy poo poo it was delayed again? Jesus Christ, get Bashir to mind wipe me so I stop waiting for this show. We really have to stop using that as the default solution to problems, O'Brien can't even remember his childhood anymore with how much his brain's been hosed with. "Julian, you're gonna give her brain cancer or something with that thing." "Ah, she'll be fine." "Hey Julian, you ever mind wipe me?" "No." "I ain't playing with you Julian, you ever mind wipe me?" "No!"
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PostNouveau posted:If they want to give it a new perspective, they should get reallll far away from the bridge. How about some enlisted crew? The guys shoveling the dilithium into the chambers and dying on away missions. That can be good in small doses (see TNG: Lower Decks) but I think at some point, your characters have to make some important decisions for the sake of drama. Unless they're NCOs or they go rogue or get stranded away from the rest of the crew something like that, you're not gonna see a bunch of regular ol' enlisted making any significant decisions, they'd just be following orders all the time. The decision to focus the show away from the captain is an interesting one but the characters have to have some agency, and I think having a bunch of mid-level officers as the main characters is sufficient for that.
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Crusher's weird specialty was growing fungi in space petri dishes too
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Astromycology is an amusing but still fairly plausible specialization. It's a good character hook. I'm sure the character will be able to use a tricorder and say technobable as well as anyone. I know a lot of people will roll their eyes, but I'm going to get a good chuckle out of the first, "Dammit [captain], I'm an astromycologist, not a [x]," or variation thereof. dont even fink about it posted:I honestly don't know why they are taking the focus away from the captain. You're now starting with characters who by definition have less agency. Or more likely the captain is going to die, and will be some sort of mentor figure for as long as they're around.
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Eiba posted:Or more likely the captain is going to die, and will be some sort of mentor figure for as long as they're around.
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Eiba posted:the captain is going to die Do you imagine this as this more of a Voyager "and then it immediately doesn't matter again ever" or more of a DS9 "red squad red squad red squad gently caress" type situation?
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Eiba posted:Astromycology is an amusing but still fairly plausible specialization. It's a good character hook. I'm sure the character will be able to use a tricorder and say technobable as well as anyone. I'd wager they're setting it up for a situation where characters like this get into an overarching plot situation way over their heads and comedy/drama ensues.
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How exactly do you maneuver in a battle like the defiant does? Does the pilot just do whatever. I don't see how the captain could be giving out bearings and whatnot when what you need is the speed of a fighter pilot and what you have is the command structure of a slow battleship.
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PostNouveau posted:How the gently caress did they land on "fungi specialist" as one of the main characters? It's a very oddly specific description, which makes me think Discovery is on a mission to find a cure for the Tarsus IV blight (there's a throwaway line in "The Conscience of the King" in which Spock says the blight was caused by a fungus mutation). Edit: This would also give them an opportunity to cast a young Kirk. Timby fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Phimosissy posted:Do you imagine this as this more of a Voyager "and then it immediately doesn't matter again ever" or more of a DS9 "red squad red squad red squad gently caress" type situation? Speaking of Red Squad I can't believe Starfleet crammed a bunch of cadets on the best ship they have and were just like whatever kids have fun. You would think they would have check in once in a while, find out there's no senior staff abroad and be like what the gently caress are you guys doing get back to a starbase now. I thought the angle on Valiant was that they straight up mutinied and got rid of the senior staff themselves. A ship of Wesleys going all Battlestar Pegasus and nobody at Starfleet seems to wonder what happened?
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skooma512 posted:Speaking of Red Squad I can't believe Starfleet crammed a bunch of cadets on the best ship they have and were just like whatever kids have fun. You would think they would have check in once in a They were on a long range mission and they were faking reports from their dead captain back to Starfleet.
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Cojawfee posted:How exactly do you maneuver in a battle like the defiant does? Does the pilot just do whatever. I don't see how the captain could be giving out bearings and whatnot when what you need is the speed of a fighter pilot and what you have is the command structure of a slow battleship. I figure all those "Attack Pattern [X]" commands are just general movement and attack goals and it's up to Helm to implement them as they see fit.
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Yeah, that's what I figure too. Attack Pattern [X] is probably a predetermined series of attack vectors based on an arbitrary target. Set target, select pattern, and the ship does the pattern around it.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I figure all those "Attack Pattern [X]" commands are just general movement and attack goals and it's up to Helm to implement them as they see fit. I like to imagine it's like when the lead singer yells "guitar solo!" and helm can wiggity wail their way through Jem'Hadar fighters
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Timby posted:It's a very oddly specific description, which makes me think Discovery is on a mission to find a cure for the Tarsus IV blight (there's a throwaway line in "The Conscience of the King" in which Spock says the blight was caused by a fungus mutation). I once again demand that young Kirk be played by Shatner
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skooma512 posted:Speaking of Red Squad I can't believe Starfleet crammed a bunch of cadets on the best ship they have and were just like whatever kids have fun. You would think they would have check in once in a I thought the idea was that before the Defiant was sent to DS9, the whole class was considered a failed experiment. Starfleet probably handed the Valiant off to the Academy under the logic of "eh, most of its systems are going to become fleet-standard in the next decade or so, let the kiddies fly on this trash ship just so they get the feel of everything." As for the Valiant itself, I believe the story was they were on a mission to circumnavigate the Federation, got stuck behind the lines when the Dominion War started, all the actual officers got killed, and the kids took over.
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Space fungus is dumb because it makes no sense that alien planets have exact analogues of earth life
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Subyng posted:it makes no sense that alien planets have exact analogues of earth life Yes, clearly this idea has no place in Star Trek
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Subyng posted:Space fungus is dumb because it makes no sense that alien planets have exact analogues of earth life This is star trek, straight up 100% earth breeds of dogs exist on other planets. It's all explained in TNG!
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Yes, clearly this idea has no place in Star Trek I know it's a thing in star trek I'm saying it's a dumb thing E: it's as dumb as a tarkalian mud sloth
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I thought Starfleet Command had written the Valiant and Red Squad off when the system they were in got overrun by the Jem'Hadar and they never heard anything from the ship afterwards.
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Baronjutter posted:This is star trek, straight up 100% earth breeds of dogs exist on other planets. It's all explained in TNG! Yeah but with foam horns.
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I'm still hoping the one weird alien on the crew is a wacky mushroom man because that would be awesome and also we'd get a scene where the space mycologist has to treat him instead of the doctor.
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Duckbag posted:I'm still hoping the one weird alien on the crew is a wacky mushroom man because that would be awesome and also we'd get a scene where the space mycologist has to treat him instead of the doctor.  : "I didn't want to mention it because I thought it might make things weird, but... technically I'm a fungus."xenomycologist: 
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MikeJF posted:It's the most realistic bit of the show to me. So he did a dumb PhD thesis. It's not like you get a Doctorate Of General Sciency Stuff. That would be pretty awesome if he had wide-ranging scientific training, but no one believed him because of his mycology thesis.  : I should be on that away team, Captain! I'm easily the most qualified -  : Woah there, fungus boy. There's going to be some science stuff on that planet, so we're taking the interns. Tell you what, I'll give you a call if we need to pick out pizza toppings.
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The_Doctor posted:
The plot of one episode will be that it's ensign shiitake's mating season which means he is constantly releasing spores into the air which starts as a nuisance and turns into a serious problem because the ship is carrying an envoy of diplomats who are deathly allergic to spores but then it's revealed that one of the diplomats was actually a spy from the opposing faction; it was an assassination attempt hoping to be disguised as an accident.this is revealed when he is shown to have no adverse reaction to spores, thus, ensign shiitake ultimately saves the day
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In a shocking reveal, we'll learn that Ensign Shiitake is actually thirty feet tall with most of his body coiling around the depths of the ship. The "face" everyone's been talking to is his sex organ.
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Duckbag posted:In a shocking reveal, we'll learn that Ensign Shiitake is actually thirty feet tall with most of his body coiling around the depths of the ship. The "face" everyone's been talking to is his sex organ. Unironically this Also his real name is Steve, everyone calls him shiitake because they're all assholes
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I don't mean to be a bother, but Steve keeps spraying his spores into my quarters to brainwash me into spying on Lieutenant Nasin. People are starting to say I'm some sort of creepy stalker, but I'm not. Look, I'm not even into Bolians. I'm not trying to be racist or anything, but that's just not my thing. Just look at the holo recordings. My eyes are clearly glazed over and there are spores flying out of all the orifices on my head. Clearly I'm not doing this under my own faculties. Edit: I retract my earlier statement. I am in fact a creeplord and I enjoy peeping on Lt. Nasin. Judge me for these actions which are mine alone, and have nothing to do with Steve. Now breath in deeply and absorb the spores emanating from my body. Cojawfee fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Marshal Radisic posted:I thought the idea was that before the Defiant was sent to DS9, the whole class was considered a failed experiment. Starfleet probably handed the Valiant off to the Academy under the logic of "eh, most of its systems are going to become fleet-standard in the next decade or so, let the kiddies fly on this trash ship just so they get the feel of everything." Pretty much this. The Defiant just didn't work as a starship as it was both too powerful to do anything Starfleet scout ships did but not powerful or large enough to run around on its own. It's a great training ship however
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 Yes, I believe we can replicate the rest of your football helmet.
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The_Doctor posted:Presumably that's his speciality, which they'll forget about after episode 3 after he becomes Generic Science Officer. He'll be the generic science officer who makes "fun guy" jokes. Subyng posted:Space fungus is dumb because it makes no sense that alien planets have exact analogues of earth life There's that TOS episode where the twist ending is that convergent evolution made another planet produce an exact copy of the US Constitution at some point during its history. Roadie fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Whenever there's an alien that has some piece of headgear or jewelry that goes through some hole in their head, I always freak out thinking about if it got caught on something and ripped their face off.
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Marshal Radisic posted:I thought the idea was that before the Defiant was sent to DS9, the whole class was considered a failed experiment. Starfleet probably handed the Valiant off to the Academy under the logic of "eh, most of its systems are going to become fleet-standard in the next decade or so, let the kiddies fly on this trash ship just so they get the feel of everything." Nah, when DS9 got the Defiant there would have been no Valiant. After a couple of years of the Defiant kicking people's teeth in and the war in full gear. Now you're pumping those things out like crazy. It's really kind of silly that they were using one for a training ship.
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If we can have an executive officer in charge of radishes, we can have one for mushrooms, you god damned nerds.
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