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Michael Jordan retired and the Bulls went from 57 wins to 55 wins and a bad call in the ECF from another finals appearance. Jordan was overrated
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mcmagic posted:Even the Browns aren't going to trade the no 1 overall pick for Matt Cassel 2. no but they might be dumb enough to do it with #12 overall
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Tom Brady has five Super Bowl rings and I have zero, but I have enjoyed delicious strawberries my whole life. So who is the real loser?
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a neat cape posted:Marino was a top 2 or 3 QB in the league for basically his entire career, so no, Ryan isn't on that level Ryan is easily the best QB in the league right now without a ring. And he's better than Flacco.
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iospace posted:Ryan is easily the best QB in the league right now without a ring. And he's better than Flacco. No.one is saying Ryan isn't good. I'm saying he's not a transcendent all time great like Dan Marino
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Say the Falcons come out in the 2nd half, play cover 0, mostly man, and are able to rush more than the Pats can block. Both flats are covered, Brady has less time and can't pick holes in a zone. He definitely throws another pick or gets strip sacked at least. And then its game over. Who was the Pats deep threat? NFL coaches are so dumb sometimes. You just know the Falcons spent the hour long halftime on a comedown from their adrenaline high and couldnt get it back
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a neat cape posted:No.one is saying Ryan isn't good. I'm saying he's not a transcendent all time great like Eli Manning
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Feb 6, 2017 19:55
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I can't believe the only man who ever beat Brady, twice, was the biggest simpleton ever. I'm fine with Brady playing 4 more years only if it means Eli can muster one more Super Bowl robbery from the Pats (it'll never happen)
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a neat cape posted:Michael Jordan retired and the Bulls went from 57 wins to 55 wins and a bad call in the ECF from another finals appearance. That wasn't in the eastern conference finals.
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mcmagic posted:Even the Browns aren't going to trade the no 1 overall pick for Matt Cassel 2. they have the 12th too 
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extendedsolo posted:That wasn't in the eastern conference finals. Whatever who gives a poo poo about the East
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Feb 6, 2017 20:00
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weird Asian candy posted:the decision by Weems to take it out isn't on anyone but him. They ran it out instead of taking a TB three times for pretty big yardage deficits. You'd think the coach would tell him to take a knee at some point in there. Not going to argue that the defense got gassed, because they obviously did. Maybe the coach shouldn't have stuck to a nearly exclusive man scheme, and made some adjustments? It was definitely some offensive coaching/play that cost them the game. It was also definitely some ST coaching/play and defensive coaching/play that coast them the game. People focusing so much on Shanahan's mistakes is silly; the whole team hosed up the second half. (for which I am very sorry, I was pulling for you guys)
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African AIDS cum posted:Say the Falcons come out in the 2nd half, play cover 0, mostly man, and are able to rush more than the Pats can block. Both flats are covered, Brady has less time and can't pick holes in a zone. He definitely throws another pick or gets strip sacked at least. And then its game over. Who was the Pats deep threat? NFL coaches are so dumb sometimes. You just know the Falcons spent the hour long halftime on a comedown from their adrenaline high and couldnt get it back chris hogan is their deep threat, somehow yes, i don't believe it either, but its true
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The better question at the moment is, how long until the latest Patriots cheating scandal gets leaked?
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Diva Cupcake posted:#stolehisjersey I'm loving on it
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a neat cape posted:I meant more people declaring the 49ers morons for hiring him. If he doesn't work out as a head coach it'll be because he can rub people the wrong way and is kind of a control freak. Couple that with Niners ownership and a GM with no prior experience and...yeah.
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evilweasel posted:chris hogan is their deep threat, somehow He had a bad game, think the stage was too big for him
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illcendiary posted:I really am continually dumbfounded at how coaches forget the value of even an unsuccessful run late in the game. The fact that a single play can burn 45 seconds of game time is frankly a broken part of football and yet the Falcons were running plays with 15-20 seconds left on the play clock. Unreal I think last night they felt like it was in their best interest go to for the TD and really ice the game. I agree though, why they didn't care more about the clock I'll never know. The only thing I can think of is that it would've deviated from their philosophy during that game of "PUT UP AS MANY POINTS AS POSSIBLE!" I just feel bad for the Falcons, since this was most likely their best chance to win a Super Bowl with Matt Ryan. Aren't many of the defensive players up for FA after this season?
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Coldforge posted:They ran it out instead of taking a TB three times for pretty big yardage deficits. You'd think the coach would tell him to take a knee at some point in there. I'm sorry, I'm still super pissed off and overreacting to everything. It was a cluster gently caress of a game all around, you are correct. Shanahan is the easy target due to the end, but you are right if the defense were able to get off the field more it would have made a huge difference. If the offense were efficient on 3rd down, if they would have called more running plays, it would have moved the chains and allowed the defense to catch their breathe. It was just a comedy of events man.
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Eli Manning and Joe Flacco >>>> Matt Ryan and Peyton Manning
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weird Asian candy posted:I'm sorry, I'm still super pissed off and overreacting to everything. It was a cluster gently caress of a game all around, you are correct. Shanahan is the easy target due to the end, but you are right if the defense were able to get off the field more it would have made a huge difference. If the offense were efficient on 3rd down, if they would have called more running plays, it would have moved the chains and allowed the defense to catch their breathe. Close loses in the Super Bowl absolutely are the worst. Thinking about it never gets easier, don't believe the condescending assholes that say otherwise (I've still never rewatched the entire Ravens SB). I hope your team weathers it better than mine did 
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weird Asian candy posted:I'm sorry, I'm still super pissed off and overreacting to everything. It was a cluster gently caress of a game all around, you are correct. Shanahan is the easy target due to the end, but you are right if the defense were able to get off the field more it would have made a huge difference. If the offense were efficient on 3rd down, if they would have called more running plays, it would have moved the chains and allowed the defense to catch their breathe. I really can't blame the defense. They were very solid for most of the game until they were just too gassed to continue, and the offense just kept putting the defense back on the field so they couldn't rest. Early on that was because of quick scores, which you can't really complain about, but I wouldn't pin this on the D.
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extendedsolo posted:I think last night they felt like it was in their best interest go to for the TD and really ice the game. I agree though, why they didn't care more about the clock I'll never know. The only thing I can think of is that it would've deviated from their philosophy during that game of "PUT UP AS MANY POINTS AS POSSIBLE!" No. The Falcons are actually in pretty good shape in terms of contracts and have a ton of youth from recent draft classes. I know I've said it before, but it is worth noting that 7 out of 11 starters on defense were first or second year players which is pretty incredible. I've been pounding the "they aren't as bad as stats show" drum for some time, so at least it was good to see them perform last night. Grady Jarrett looked like an absolute man out there and it appears him and Hageman side by side may be a good pairing for the future. Their secondary is very young with Tru, Alf, Collins, Poole, Goodwin, Neal and even Allen. They should be a player in the NFC for a while, but you just never know.
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a neat cape posted:One bad game doesn't suddenly make Kyle Shanahan a bad OC how about the 10 game losing streak they went on last year when people were seriously asking "is Matt Ryan done" or what about his time in Washington and Cleveland let's not act like the man has a sparkling resume marked by consistency. saying he's been "up and down" is generous
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Coldforge posted:Close loses in the Super Bowl absolutely are the worst. The feeling never gets better, don't believe the condescending assholes that say otherwise. i think i'm over those two giants losses now, actually
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evilweasel posted:I really can't blame the defense. They were very solid for most of the game until they were just too gassed to continue, and the offense just kept putting the defense back on the field so they couldn't rest. Early on that was because of quick scores, which you can't really complain about, but I wouldn't pin this on the D. I wouldn't either. I was extremely pleased with the effort the D put up. The offense was great for the most part too, they just didn't get it done when they needed to the most.
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Matt Ryan by down: 1st down: 10/10, 171 yards 2nd down: 6/8, 94 yards, 1 sack 3rd down: 1/4, 19 yards, 4 sacks, lost fumble. The DVOA for that game is pretty nuts: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2017/super-bowl-li-dvoaquick-reads The Falcons being so horrific on 3rd down breaks the formula. Kalli fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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evilweasel posted:i think i'm over those two giants losses now, actually You say that but deep down you know 18-1 will always hurt
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indigi posted:how about the 10 game losing streak they went on last year when people were seriously asking "is Matt Ryan done" Cleveland is Cleveland. No one succeeds there. And I'm pretty sure RG3 looked good under Shanahan.
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evilweasel posted:i think i'm over those two giants losses now, actually Really living up to that username 
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RG3 looked good for one year running a college offense, until they broke him. I hope Niners fans don't get their hopes up
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iospace posted:So is Matt Ryan the second coming of Marino? Him and Phillip Rivers. And I say that with respect.
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iospace posted:So is Matt Ryan the second coming of Marino? No that is Andrew Luck.
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is Ryan really on the same level as Rivers after this season? I'd so enthusiastically take Rivers over Ryan. I don't think they're comparable tbh e: Elephanthead posted:No that is Andrew Luck. lol; no. Luck's got a lot to do before he's even on the Ryan tier.
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The Falcons hangover is gonna be due to them ruining Mack in search of a Super Bowl which almost worked. But when Mack isnt the same next year Ryan is gonna get rocked.
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I'd take Ryan over Rivers right now, but only because of age. I still think Rivers is a better quarterback but saying that sounds homerish. Rivers has put up mostly great numbers for a long time with lackluster offensive weapons other than Gates, a poo poo OL and bad coaches
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TBeats posted:If I wasn't so lazy I would go through the 150 or whatever pages of the GDT and collect all of the posts of people who counted out Touchdown Tom but that would be like 20k posts. I have a folder of bookmarks of posts saved because I'm gonna make a youtube video out of it sometime this week
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Brady and Rodgers are tier 1 QBs Wilson, Big Ben, Brees tier 2 Ryan, Flacco, Eli, Carr tier 3 Rivers, Luck tier 4 The rest whatever
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