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Turdsdown Tom posted:For sure. I don't trust a 40yd field goal in the Super Bowl, especially when historically amazing kickers like Ghost are missing XPs. I don't think it was as straightforward as running three times and going for it, they needed an extra 10-15 yards to put Matt Bryant in a comfortable range, and even THEN you've got to worry about Shea McLellan hopping the center because you know at that point, the Patriots would be in all-out block mode on that play. Hear me out here, I think Rivers or Luck COULD have done it, but couldn't sustain success enough to get their team in position to do it. So yeah pretty much Brady is the only one.
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Lime Tonics posted:The Texas Rangers were ordered Monday to help Houston police find the jersey worn by New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady during Super Bowl LI. Well they showed Bradys leather bag in his locker on the broadcast so the thief knew what he was looking for
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Turdsdown Tom posted:For sure. I don't trust a 40yd field goal in the Super Bowl, especially when historically amazing kickers like Ghost are missing XPs. I don't think it was as straightforward as running three times and going for it, they needed an extra 10-15 yards to put Matt Bryant in a comfortable range, and even THEN you've got to worry about Shea McLellan hopping the center because you know at that point, the Patriots would be in all-out block mode on that play. The botched XP has no bearing on Bryant though. And Bryant, throughout his career, has been outstanding. The odds of him hitting a 40 yard FG are very, very good and I really don't think they needed an extra 10-15 yards at all. Bryant can hit from 60, 40 is a chip shot.
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extendedsolo posted:Hear me out here, I think Rivers or Luck COULD have done it, but couldn't sustain success enough to get their team in position to do it. So yeah pretty much Brady is the only one. Ben could, tbh
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Freeman was averaging 6.8 yards a carry The Lamar Miller treatment I see (when he was with the Dolphins at least).
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extendedsolo posted:Hear me out here, I think Rivers or Luck COULD have done it, but couldn't sustain success enough to get their team in position to do it. So yeah pretty much Brady is the only one. I mean, the Chiefs blew a 28 point lead to the Luck Colts in the playoffs.
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weird Asian candy posted:The botched XP has no bearing on Bryant though. And Bryant, throughout his career, has been outstanding. The odds of him hitting a 40 yard FG are very, very good and I really don't think they needed an extra 10-15 yards at all. Bryant can hit from 60, 40 is a chip shot. ...you don't think the pressure of playing in a Super Bowl has no effect on kickers? lol, not everybody is an Adam Vinatieri waiting to put it through the uprights as time expires. Ghost can hit them from 60 too, and he missed an XP last night. It's not as easy as saying "well he can hit them from that distance all the time" lmao. Ghost is 5 spots above Matt Bryant in the "best NFL kickers" category and blew an XP. Kicking field goals has changed drastically over the past two years, they're not gimmies anymore. No head coach is sitting on the sidelines going "yeah, a FG from this spot is a lock for sure"
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Turdsdown Tom posted:...you don't think the pressure of playing in a Super Bowl has no effect on kickers? lol, not everybody is an Adam Vinatieri waiting to put it through the uprights as time expires. Ghost can hit them from 60 too, and he missed an XP last night. It's not as easy as saying "well he can hit them from that distance all the time" lmao. Ghost is 5 spots above Matt Bryant in the "best NFL kickers" category and blew an XP. Kicking field goals has changed drastically over the past two years, they're not gimmies anymore. No head coach is sitting on the sidelines going "yeah, a FG from this spot is a lock for sure" Pressure, sure I just love how you automatically assume Bryant misses because he isn't GHOST. GHOST IS THE GREATEST KICKER EVER! I like Bryant's chances in that spot, pressure or not.
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Turdsdown Tom posted:For sure. I don't trust a 40yd field goal in the Super Bowl, especially when historically amazing kickers like Ghost are missing XPs. I don't think it was as straightforward as running three times and going for it, they needed an extra 10-15 yards to put Matt Bryant in a comfortable range, and even THEN you've got to worry about Shea McLellan hopping the center because you know at that point, the Patriots would be in all-out block mode on that play. And even after the sack (2nd down play, after a 1 yard loss on a run. 23 yard line. 5 step drop out of shotgun from 28 to the 33 yard line, Ryan scrambles backwards for another 5 yards to almost the 40) they would have been fine if not for a holding penalty by Matthews on the third down. Just about everyone hosed that drive up, except for Julio.
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weird Asian candy posted:Pressure, sure I just love how you automatically assume Bryant misses because he isn't GHOST. GHOST IS THE GREATEST KICKER EVER! So do I, just not enough to pass up the chance to try to run the ball three times and get a first down to improve them.
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evilweasel posted:So do I, just not enough to pass up the chance to try to run the ball three times and get a first down to improve them. Agreed. I wouldn't have kneeled down three times then kicked, I would have run three times, hoped for a first and would have settled for a FG all day.
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King Hong Kong posted:I mean, the Chiefs blew a 28 point lead to the Luck Colts in the playoffs. That game was horrible, but the Chiefs offensive starters for it were Dwayne Bowe, Alex Smith, RB Cyrus Gray, a TE named McGrath
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9MQAD1Luo this is me
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weird Asian candy posted:Pressure, sure I just love how you automatically assume Bryant misses because he isn't GHOST. GHOST IS THE GREATEST KICKER EVER! Did you get permanent brain damage between last night and today or something? Way to totally ignore and misrepresent what I just said. Did Bryant have a good shot at the kick? Sure. Was it a smart idea to risk it and potentially give the Patriots the ball with only half the field to drive? gently caress no. EDIT: They should have ran it from the 25 yard line or wherever they were. But after the sack, and not even after the penalty that followed that put them completely out of range, I don't think they were willing to risk it.
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Ben could, tbh nah he would've been intercepted at least once. As good as the patriots were this year, lets admit that it always takes a little bit of luck to win a Super Bowl. I mean Derek Carr was injured at the end of the season. The Texans defense played well enough to possibly win, but their QB is an atrocity. If the Texans even have a competent QB they win that game. The Steelers best offensive player went out early in the game, shutting the door on any comeback, not that I think they would've won anyway. Obviously last night with the falcons coaches making GBS threads the bed in legendary fashion. I'm glad they made it, because it was an all time great game and there will be a 30 for 30 narrated by a salty rear end Bill Simmons about the full calendar year from Villanova to now. Is there anything MORE ridiculous that what happened last night that could happen in the next 8 weeks? extendedsolo fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Turdsdown Tom posted:Did you get permanent brain damage between last night and today or something? Way to totally ignore and misrepresent what I just said. I have no idea what you said because all I read was GHOST GHOST GHOST GHOST. Bryant had a better FG% than GHOST this year. Running the ball to kill the clock, force NE to use timeouts and then trot out a great (whether you can admit it through your BAHSTIN goggles or not) kicker is not exactly a risk...I'm not the one with brain damage. Even running it twice and then going for a higher percentage pass would have sufficed. Basically, the exact opposite of what they did. What they did WAS the risk and it blew up in their face.
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SHOAH NUFF posted:That game was horrible, but the Chiefs offensive starters for it were Dwayne Bowe, Alex Smith, RB Cyrus Gray, a TE named McGrath also every member of the chiefs secondary inexplicably chose that game to die for some reason
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extendedsolo posted:nah he would've been intercepted at least once. cf: SB 43. If you get hot streak Ben, he does it. If you get cold streak Ben, you get the INT. Brady is the only football robot who is better than 50/50
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osama won
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weird Asian candy posted:I have no idea what you said because all I read was GHOST GHOST GHOST GHOST. That's all you read because you're an idiot who was more eager to argue about a point I never made weird Asian candy posted:Running the ball to kill the clock, force NE to use timeouts and then trot out a great (whether you can admit it through your BAHSTIN goggles or not) kicker is not exactly a risk. I literally just loving said this in the post you originally quoted. The risk isn't that strategy, the risk is relying entirely on the field goal from a coaching perspective, independently of how good or bad your kicker is. weird Asian candy posted:Even running it twice and then going for a higher percentage pass would have sufficed. Basically, the exact opposite of what they did. What they did WAS the risk and it blew up in their face. Well I'd like to think they were going for that idea, except in reverse. Because they had just gotten up to that field position thanks to Freeman and wanted to keep the NE defense on their heels. But what happened was a sack, which necessitated another pass play.
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Turdsdown Tom posted:That's all you read because you're an idiot who was more eager to argue about a point I never made You're angry and look like an idiot and this is completely independent of you being right or wrong
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Yup, I'm the idiot...
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Kalli posted:Matt Ryan by down: 1) The people who made DVOA were completely wrong about who would have the much higher DVOA, right after watching the game 2) They wrote in their article that DVOA isn't saying that the Falcons were "better", which is the opposite of what they say everywhere else
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Y'all ready for baseball season
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trash person posted:Y'all ready for baseball season gently caress baseball, i'm ready for the Daytona 500
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evilweasel posted:This is kinda neat:
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trash person posted:Y'all ready for baseball season I'm excited to look at box scores and see how my favorite player and best player in baseball does while the team only wins 60 games
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Spring Break My Heart posted:Seems pretty telling that I don't think so, they give a good explanation of the hidden variable: that nobody ever really thinks about a disparity in number of plays run. It just always sort of evens out where the team that's running better plays runs more of them. The Falcons somehow managed to run better plays but less of them, something nobody would really think to even consider.
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Ben could, tbh Ben Brady yeah
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here are my thoughts on the new england patriots
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Turdsdown Tom posted:...you don't think the pressure of playing in a Super Bowl has no effect on kickers? lol, not everybody is an Adam Vinatieri waiting to put it through the uprights as time expires. Ghost can hit them from 60 too, and he missed an XP last night. It's not as easy as saying "well he can hit them from that distance all the time" lmao. Ghost is 5 spots above Matt Bryant in the "best NFL kickers" category and blew an XP. Kicking field goals has changed drastically over the past two years, they're not gimmies anymore. No head coach is sitting on the sidelines going "yeah, a FG from this spot is a lock for sure" Ghost has been shanking XPs ever since they moved it back for a while now
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yeah and it makes me feel sad on the inside
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it is funny how there's so much focus on atlanta collapsing (and they had to, no matter how good you are you aren't coming back down 25 points in the super bowl on your own tho atlanta wins the game with gently caress ups against any other team) but the falcons were only up by so much due to the pats loving up the first half. it's like they didn't even practice. brady ate two drive ending sacks with guys open, he had two guys open on the pick six. the playcalling was loving rear end in the first half.
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Hello guys, here I am getting off the team plane:
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My thoughts: I never cared about either of these teams too much, but I was kind of disappointed about the prospect of a SBXLVIII level shutout (which I find boring) and it was exciting to see such a swift and massive, multi-record breaking comeback. Both teams played very well. Congratulations to all of these athletic multimillionaires, I say!
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I am very happy that Alex Mack went from the Browns to Superbowl Center on the Atlanta Falcons. I'd liked to have seen him get a ring.
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Gatts posted:I am very happy that Alex Mack went from the Browns to Superbowl Center on the Atlanta Falcons. I'd liked to have seen him get a ring. Yeah. That final sack was his assignment too. He was hurting bad...makes you wonder how different things would have been had he not been playing on a broken leg.
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It makes me worried that he did permanent damage to his leg.
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Worst part about that Super Bowl is Patriots fans turning into neverending shitlords.
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Kalli posted:Hello guys, here I am getting off the team plane: Matty P's T-Shirt game was on for this Super Bowl, between Goodell the clown and "The North Remembers" it's probably his rocket engineering background that makes him very angry at the Wells reports treatment of basic science.
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