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A: “It seems to me you’re invested ... You’d rather crush Tony Abbott than save the Liberals. You’ve got to get over that. Tony Abbott made terrible mistakes, and if you’re trying to get me to say that Tony Abbott didn’t, you’ll fail.” M: “I’m not trying to get you to say anything, Andrew, I’m just telling the truth as it is. You’re citing polls when they’re convenient for you. The polls were showing that he would have lost the election. You’re telling me the polls were saying that Julia Gillard was going to lose the election.” A: “I think you’re completely misrepresenting the role of polls.” M: “No, you’re on the one hand saying that polls were telling us that Julia Gillard was going to lose ...” A: “How about I make my point and then tell me I’m wrong, instead of telling me I’m wrong before I’ve actually made it. That might be helpful. The polls didn’t say Tony Abbott would lose, they said he was losing. That’s a different kettle of fish. The polls right now say that Malcolm Turnbull is losing.” M: “But make up your mind.” A: “I think we’re in a profitless debate. You seem to be very keen to establish Tony Abbott can’t come back.” M: “But you’re very keen to say he can come back.” A: “Let me finish my point. Whether Tony Abbott can or can’t come back is almost besides the point.” M: “But it’s your only point. It’s the only point you’ve been making for the last six months.” A: “No it’s not, and if you’d let me finish you’d see the point I am making. The point I am making is the first question for the Liberals is can they win with Malcolm Turnbull. That’s the first point. And that’s the point that’s been highlighted last week by his many stumbles and this week by the polls again and Cory Bernardi. These are the issues. Tony Abbott doesn’t even come into the picture.” M: “You need to make up your mind about the polls.” A: “Don’t attack me.” M: “I’m not attacking you. You’re saying on the one hand you don’t believe the polls when they come to Tony Abbott but you do believe the polls now when they come to Malcolm Turnbull.” A: “Miranda, this is so frustrating. You ascribe to me a view that I don’t hold, then when I correct it, instead of listening and accepting it, you once again say the same thing.” M: “Oh, Andrew, we’re not getting anywhere here. Did you or did you not tell us that you thought that Julia Gillard would not have won the election based on polls?” A: “Let me make my point. Please let me make my points otherwise there’s no point to the conversation. Let me make my points or there’s no point to the conversation and I may as well go and do something else.” M: “Did you or did you not say that?” A: “Put your question and let me answer it. Why are you arguing with me? I’ve tried to tell you ...” M: “Andrew, this is fruitless.” A: “I know. For christ sake, Miranda. If you give me a question I’ll answer it, and if you keep interrupting me I’m afraid I’m going to hang up.” M: “We’ve got five weeks, we have to get on.” A: “Miranda, in that case you’re describing a living hell for me. It has to work like this. You ask me a question, I give an answer, you can agree with me or not agree with me, but please don’t interrupt me while I’m doing it.” M: “Well, Andrew, this is my show so you don’t dictate to me what I do.” A: “No, it’s our show. Well if it’s your show how about you do it without me.” M: “Is that what you want to do?” A: “I think it is if you’re going to go on like this.” M: “Well don’t dictate to me what we do. I mean you’re actually behaving ...” A: “Then let me speak. If you want me on, let me speak.” M: “Alright, go ahead.” A: “No, I’m just saying, you give a question, let me speak and give an answer.” M: “I thought this was a discussion.” A: “Well funnily enough I’ve managed to do it very nicely with every other fill-in except you. Now let’s throw to the listeners and see whether they think this method of discussion is profitless.” M: “Alright, well let’s do that when I’m ready to do that.” A: “No, I want to listen to the listeners now.” Things then calmed down a bit, with the pair taking a number of calls from listeners before finally, apparently, agreeing to disagree. This is how it finished up. M: “Well, Andrew, it’s been fantastic talking to you, even though we did have a stoush, but that was going to be on the cards. It’s been boiling for a while. Let’s try again tomorrow and see how we go.” A: “Let’s see.”
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Seemlar posted:
Not an empty quote.
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Is the Australian government always this fractious? I caught a bit of it with Rudd and then full force with Abbott/Turnbull but I figured those were anomalous.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 06:28 |
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Amazing watching these two mealy mouthed idiots having a slap fight.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Exactly. Trump's success comes down to getting a lot of free media attention and to being seen as being a political outsider. Palmer had those qualities, Abbott never did.
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Aurubin posted:Is the Australian government always this fractious? I caught a bit of it with Rudd and then full force with Abbott/Turnbull but I figured those were anomalous. Yes, but it's just more recently become normal for it to come public all the time.
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Aurubin posted:Is the Australian government always this fractious? I caught a bit of it with Rudd and then full force with Abbott/Turnbull but I figured those were anomalous.
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hooman posted:Amazing watching these two mealy mouthed idiots having a slap fight. Bolt demands that every position he holds is whatever works for the moment and you can't contradict today's opinion unless he does tomorrow. Bolt must always win, must always pretend he had a 50/50 bet instead of absolutist garbage. It was just unbearable to have Miranda point that out, and I can't see Bolt lasting. Doctor Spaceman posted:The period since Rudd is the messiest it's been since the 70s/early 80s, in terms of internal government stability I think. It hasn't been this bad since the 50's. Not even the Gorton/McMahon period comes close.
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Aurubin posted:Is the Australian government always this fractious? I caught a bit of it with Rudd and then full force with Abbott/Turnbull but I figured those were anomalous. The closest the Liberals had was when Don Chipp left to start the Democrats. However Chipp was a House of Reps member for the Libs, left them and then became a Senator for the Democrats.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 07:59 |
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Kevin Rudd is the greatest statesman since Bismarck. He saw the ongoing concentration of power in the executive, contrary to the design of our system, and put in motion a plan to permanently destabilise and weaken it spanning multiple terms and parties of government
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Solemn Sloth posted:Kevin Rudd is the greatest statesman since Bismarck. He saw the ongoing concentration of power in the executive, contrary to the design of our system, and put in motion a plan to permanently destabilise and weaken it spanning multiple terms and parties of government Truly the cicero of our generation
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Aurubin posted:Is the Australian government always this fractious? I caught a bit of it with Rudd and then full force with Abbott/Turnbull but I figured those were anomalous. Oh, I forgot the "Joh for PM" that completely derailed the Federal Liberals/Nationals and destroyed any chance of them winning the 1987 Federal election. I'm sure there are some Liberals who still hate the guts of any Queensland National Party member to this day. You Am I fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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You Am I posted:Oh, I forgot the "Joh for PM" that completely derailed the Federal Liberals/Nationals and destroyed any chance of them winning the 1987 Federal election National heroes.
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Apparently there's an election on in WA:quote:Meanwhile, Transport Minister Bill Marmion was heckled extensively by a passer-by as he fronted the media at Bayswater train station to continue the Liberals' attack on Metronet. Can't have members of the public contradicting the party line.
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asio posted:Truly the cicero of our generation Kevin Rudd has taken a moment from his concession speech to thank you for your unironic compliment How unfortunate
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 09:44 |
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Jesus loving Christ George Christensen is the platonic ideal of a brain dead fat turd
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 09:51 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4px8KQpy1cM lol he got kicked out from his job as shadow parliamentary secretary for this Toys For Ass Bum fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Sounds like the Libs didn't like him anyway, they just wish they weren't losing a seat
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 11:56 |
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Hahaha. Imagine the teeth grinding going on.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 12:55 |
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Isn't there a Twitter clone just for alt-right dickheads that would welcome him, though?
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 13:06 |
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Marshal of the drone air force, Ahmed Fahour is worth a pretty penny... http://www.theage.com.au/business/senate-committee-denies-australia-post-attempt-to-keep-ahmed-fahours-salary-secret-20170207-gu7n05.html quote:A Senate committee has refused Australia Post's request to keep managing director Ahmed Fahour's $5.6 million salary a secret. A very weird cat is good old Ahmed. Leaves you wondering why he would be trusted with a burnt match let alone a bank/postal service.
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Graic Gabtar posted:Marshal of the drone air force, Ahmed Fahour is worth a pretty penny... I will use this information when I rant on their facebook page about why my Express post Package hasn't gone anywhere in 2 days.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:I will use this information when I rant on their facebook page about why my Express post Package hasn't gone anywhere in 2 days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwtM-kSpPrI You would think they are defusing a loving bomb.
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Graic Gabtar posted:Blame people in safety vests laughing at your package. They could use a smaller drone, they only need to deliver the card that said they attempted delivery.
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Graic Gabtar posted:Marshal of the drone air force, Ahmed Fahour is worth a pretty penny... quote:http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...207-gu7t06.html He just can't help himself. This is almost as bad as the time he called SBS to get a journo sacked.
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Australia Post is a ~ 6 Billion dollar a year business. Does financial mastermind Turnbull really think a million dollar salary for the CEO is out of line? If he does he's got no idea of the current business environment in Australia. When is terror not terror? Ask an expert: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/us-politics/donald-trump-slips-up-on-aussie-attack/news-story/90df90112ed60ca2d59308d99ebe4629 quote:Donald Trump slips up on Aussie ‘attack’ The Australian12:00AM February 8, 2017 MARK SCHLIEBS ReporterBrisbane
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 00:18 |
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Haha loving what? The Lindt Siege was under-reported was it?
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 00:32 |
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Eh Lindt isn't a stretch as a terroristic event. The fiction is that it wasn't covered. I gave up on someone forever when they posted while it was still going on that it was a government false flag. They also believed Martin Bryant was framed so...
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 00:32 |
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It's all collapsing down around Trumble.
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Lid posted:Eh Lindt isn't a stretch as a terroristic event. The fiction is that it wasn't covered. The fiction is that it was terrorism by the media that covered it and the authorities hoping the report that will say so won't dump them in it really really badly, because they contributed to it. The media have conflicting agendas on this: they want to label it terrorism, but they also want to trumpet how badly the authorities managed it and how they contributed to the event by ignoring warnings about the guy, in which case it isn't terrorism by any label and more a siege with hostages which is all that it was. I have a feeling Baird's departure was timely in this context.
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quote:Jacqui Lambie will move to introduce a criminal code amendment to ban full face coverings in public places. Does poo poo like this get voted on the in senate then the house? I'm not up on how senators introduce legislation. gently caress I think I even asked this in this thread years ago but I can't remember.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 00:55 |
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I don't see why anyone bothers worshipping a god with such bad aim.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 00:57 |
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Cirofren posted:Does poo poo like this get voted on the in senate then the house? I'm not up on how senators introduce legislation. gently caress I think I even asked this in this thread years ago but I can't remember. It's a regulation not a bill, so it can be voted on and passed and BAM law.
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ewe2 posted:It's a regulation not a bill, so it can be voted on and passed and BAM law. As in just in the senate that has 3 One Nation members and Bernardi? gently caress Edit: Cirofren fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Probably won't pass. The libs would have to all vote for it, possible. But then you've still got NXT and Hinch who are unlikely to.
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https://twitter.com/AusConservPty/status/828908738086043648
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https://twitter.com/GrogsGamut/status/829127541159976960 Treating adults like children is a surefire way to ensure success.
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