euphronius posted:Jackson was infamous for letting the players run the huddle and call plays so . Lol. He also famously could not manage Kobe and shaq. Idk man I feel like 11 rings means he was exactly the coach he needed to be.
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Spacebump posted:How many titles did they win without Phil? Shaq won one . Kobe was out of his prime when Jackson bailed .
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Feb 8, 2017 01:01
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Spacebump posted:How many titles did they win without Phil? Shaq's 1 in Miami And Pau's in San Antonio 
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euphronius posted:Shaq won one . Kobe was out of his prime when Jackson bailed . Who do you think is a great coach? Because by your metric I think only Larry Brown would qualify, at least in the last 40 years or so.
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Feb 8, 2017 01:03
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Who cares if he's a good coach or whatever, he's a lovely loving gm/president/check collector right now
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Spring Break My Heart posted:Of the top 100 criticisms of Carmelo I don't think will to win comes up. It might not be accurate but it's easily within the top 5 most common criticisms of Melo, in some form or another
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TBeats posted:Who do you think is a great coach? Because by your metric I think only Larry Brown would qualify, at least in the last 40 years or so. The guy in Dallas is very very good. I put pop up there because he also has a lot of input on general manager issues . Stevens in Boston seems to know what he's doing . Thibs had a great run a few years ago. Vogel has a good run with ind. budenholzer in atl is very good. I'm probably forgetting some peolpe. I don't know about steve Kerr.
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Feb 8, 2017 01:08
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chunkles posted:And Pau's in San Antonio He's arguably the worst part of the starting 5, depending on Tony Parker
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Feb 8, 2017 01:11
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straight up brolic posted:Apparently 97% of existing season tickets holders renewed so it's really just price gouging a loyal fanbase How many of those are actually going to games and not reselling at least half their package
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Feb 8, 2017 01:14
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Vanilla Mint Ice posted:Who cares if he's a good coach or whatever, he's a lovely loving gm/president/check collector right now He's a very good check collector to be fair. Just like Melo.
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Feb 8, 2017 01:15
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Vanilla Mint Ice posted:Who cares if he's a good coach or whatever, he's a lovely loving gm/president/check collector right now I object. You have to respect Phil's CTC game, it's not lovely at all.
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euphronius posted:Jackson was infamous for letting the players run the huddle and call plays so . Lol. He also famously could not manage Kobe and shaq. Yeah Pop lets players draw up plays too. It's called getting guys to buy in. It's really really hard to do to get guys to agree to play a system and not just do what they want most of the game because there's really not much a coach can do to stop them from doing this. He also, famously, did manage Kobe and Shaq about as well as anyone ever did.
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Vanilla Mint Ice posted:Who cares if he's a good coach or whatever, he's a lovely loving gm/president/check collector right now I can fully be on board with this. Which is why I was glad when the Jeanie/Phil relationship was over . . . little did I know that Damocles would have a much crueler weapon to place above me in Magic Johnson.
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Feb 8, 2017 01:20
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Tae posted:He's arguably the worst part of the starting 5, depending on Tony Parker eh I'd take him over Danny Green or Tony Parker if I was starting a team from scratch. Having three guys who can get their own shot is an important part of why the Spurs are so good despite bucking the increasing pace/3pa trend
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Feb 8, 2017 01:24
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Not saying Jackson wasn't no good Just saying he was / is overrated
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euphronius posted:Not saying Jackson wasn't no good This is a good opinion.
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Feb 8, 2017 01:33
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euphronius posted:Jackson was infamous for letting the players run the huddle and call plays so . Lol. He also famously could not manage Kobe and shaq. his team's ran the triangle he commanded, not just whatever the players wanted
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Has Okafor been traded yet euphronius posted:Nope How about now?
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NotWearingPants posted:How about now? dammit i will pull this league over
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chunkles posted:Is anyone else planning on celebrating mardi gras by staying inside and avoiding all king cakes? I won't be able to face one without imagining the king cake baby springing out to eat my face off like a xenomorph the problem here is that although King Cake Baby is cool and good, actual king cakes taste like poo poo. How a good food city like Nawleens can have such a crappy traditional recipe is beyond me. Imagine going to Maryland for the first time and finding out that genuine Maryland crab cakes taste like rear end. You would be as outraged as I am about the king cake scam.
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Tae posted:He's arguably the worst part of the starting 5, depending on Tony Parker pau's actually pretty good and was fitting in better and better with the system. i'm personally dying for him to come back because he really benefitted that starting lineup by shooting efficiently, passing well, and being able to create space for lma
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euphronius posted:Jackson was infamous for letting the players run the huddle and call plays so . Lol. He also famously could not manage Kobe and shaq. he's still second best though
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Feb 8, 2017 02:05
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Libertine posted:I just assume that anyone in good seats at a Warriors game who has permanent residence in San Francisco is a millionaire because how else would you afford to live there anyways. If you bought your house in the 1970s to early 90s, you got to ride up with it as it became worth a fortune, yet you don't pay squat for a mortgage and your property taxes are obscenely low because of Prop 13. There is a nice old lady living on my street who lives off social security and a really tiny pension, in a little house that is worth several dozen times what she paid for it. As long as old time San Franciscans own their home and never move, they do just fine.
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predicto posted:the problem here is that although King Cake Baby is cool and good, actual king cakes taste like poo poo. How a good food city like Nawleens can have such a crappy traditional recipe is beyond me. It's too sweet I think. There are some really good versions of King Cake, like maple walnut, but the stuff with that sugar on top of it grosses me out. Of course I ate it like every day last year since I was broke and there was always one in the kitchen in my office.
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https://twitter.com/ChicagoSports/status/829145820670758913
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straight up brolic posted:Apparently 97% of existing season tickets holders renewed so it's really just price gouging a loyal fanbase let's maybe wait for a down season or two before we start calling any of them loyal
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predicto posted:If you bought your house in the 1970s to early 90s, you got to ride up with it as it became worth a fortune, yet you don't pay squat for a mortgage and your property taxes are obscenely low because of Prop 13. There is a nice old lady living on my street who lives off social security and a really tiny pension, in a little house that is worth several dozen times what she paid for it. so the already relatively well to do (property owners) didn't get hosed over. but everyone else did. but its cool because people who were already well off enough to own property in a major metropolitan area are protected (for now). still sounds like a pretty lovely situation
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Feb 8, 2017 03:24
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chunkles posted:dammit i will pull this league over Lol
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Feb 8, 2017 03:24
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Chunkles as the Salty Bus Driver, toting us all in for a hard day's posting
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Like loving seriously. quote:But the Reinsdorfs still hold management's talent evaluation in high regard, one source said, and also have valued its ability to avoid hamstringing the franchise with bloated, long-term contracts for players with minimal impact. Valentine, Can't get in the rotation. Bobby Portis can't get in the rotation Doug McDermott is the only viable rotation member(Took 5 loving picks to get him too). Snell Traded for loving MCW Marquise Teague is out of the loving league. gently caress this goddamn loving organization.
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Dexo man don't despair I think Garpax will be fired by 2030.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:He also, unlike Pop, didn't really demonstrate as much willingness to adapt his systems and philosophies to his personnel over the years. I guess he didn't need to, but I'd say that means he had less adversity that required adapting. Look at Pop still steaming ahead this year with so much roster turnover in the post-Duncan era. His coaching doesn't get that much praise because he doesn't have a coaching tree like other guys, so there aren't people in the media ready to talk about how smart whatever things he did were. He was really good at manipulating his psychotic superstar players psychologically into playing good basketball, his teams won, others have failed to do what he did
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Punkin Spunkin posted:He also, unlike Pop, didn't really demonstrate as much willingness to adapt his systems and philosophies to his personnel over the years. I guess he didn't need to, but I'd say that means he had less adversity that required adapting. Look at Pop still steaming ahead this year with so much roster turnover in the post-Duncan era. It's very different to run a team with Kobe and Shaq than it is to run one with Michael Jordan and Luc Longley. The Lakers ran a vastly different version of the triangle based on their personnel every year. It's a lot different to run a system where you have Glen Rice shooting threes than Rick Fox than Metta World Peace. He also routinely beat Pop head to head and generally made better adjustments than him and the only Spurs victory over the Lakers with him around required Kobe fracturing his rear end to happen. And he didn't have adversity? Yeah golly there was no drama happening with the Lakers ever. Rick fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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NickRoweFillea posted:Chunkles as the Salty Bus Driver, toting us all in for a hard day's posting i graduated from the otto mann school of bus driving so buckle up kids
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Dexo posted:Like loving seriously. organizations win championships
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RaySmuckles posted:so the already relatively well to do (property owners) didn't get hosed over. but everyone else did. but its cool because people who were already well off enough to own property in a major metropolitan area are protected (for now). Hey, I couldn't agree more. Prop 13 has ruined this state's finances, and has played a large part in directly causing the ridiculous increases in home prices and rent we have seen out here. It sucks rear end. Government by proposition sucks in general. /derail over
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Rick posted:It's possible to be really good at something and then turn like 70 and not be good at it anymore. It doesn't mean those first years were bad. His zen has gone stale, he's only in it for the money now. edit- also George Karl. I blocked on his name for some reason
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