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lazerus06 posted:I don't have R2-D6 (that comes with an epic ship I guess?). Goes with Transport, yes. Hmmmm, if you can find the points, ID, and BMST are both what I would consider good choices, except you don't have a reliable way of forcing stress on the enemy.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Goes with Transport, yes. True, might discourage a ship that has PTL on it though, which is sort of indrectly denying them an action.
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For one point, it's good enough to include just for situational just-in-case purposes.
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Ok, so I have been messing with some imperial lists. For now I'm working off some sample lists I found in a guide. Edit: Forget the swarm list for now. I wanna focus on getting a few Tie Interceptors off the ground. SABRE SQUADRON Click to change squadron details 100 points PILOTS Soontir Fel (33) TIE Interceptor (27), Royal Guard TIE (0), Push the Limit (3), Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1), Autothrusters (2) Saber Squadron Pilot (23) x 2 TIE Interceptor (21), Autothrusters (2) Saber Squadron Pilot (21) What do you all think. I know interceptors are on the weak side but I like the idea of flying them. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Starkiller Base Pilot (30) Fire-Control System (2) Starkiller Base Pilot (30) Fire-Control System (2) Starkiller Base Pilot (30) Collision Detector (0) Intelligence Agent (1) General Hux (5) Total: 100 The basic idea here is that i can almost always get the hux action off using coordinate so long as one ship can manage not to bump so i'll get some power shots out there.
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BigRed0427 posted:Ok, so I have been messing with some imperial lists. For now I'm working off some sample lists I found in a guide. Interceptors have a more than sufficient amount of green on the dial. The traditional Soontir Fel build has in place of TIE Mk II either Targeting Computer or Stealth Device. Stealth keeps you ticking longer, and Targeting Computer does great things for your damage output. If the objective is "I want to put 4 interceptors on the table because they're rad and that's what this game is about", looks good to me. If the idea is "I want to sweep a tournament with this list" you should drop all the Sabers  Given the choice between 2 generic interceptors or 3 generic TIEs for the same points, I'm taking the TIEs every time. Carnor Jax is another real fun Interceptor pilot to fly, and is pretty viable in the meta right now due to his focus denying shenanigans. Tetran Cowell is the beta version of Countess Ryad. Turr Phenir's banky barrel roll is a fun one too.
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canyoneer posted:If the objective is "I want to put 4 interceptors on the table because they're rad and that's what this game is about", looks good to me. If the idea is "I want to sweep a tournament with this list" you should drop all the Sabers Yeah, I'm still looking for someplace to play on a regular basis. With my experience with Magic, I kind of don't wan't to touch people playing competitively. My fear is eight other people running that two Punishing One Scum list and thats just not fun and boring. Why generic ties over Intercepters? Just fielding more ships? Edit: SOmething more like this? BLACK SQUADRON 99 points PILOTS Soontir Fel (35) TIE Interceptor (27), Royal Guard TIE (0), Push the Limit (3), Stealth Device (3), Autothrusters (2) Black Squadron Pilot (16) x 4 TIE Fighter (14), Snap Shot (2) BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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canyoneer posted:Interceptors have a more than sufficient amount of green on the dial. Tie Interceptors (100) Soontir Fel (35) - TIE Interceptor Push The Limit (3), Royal Guard TIE (0), Autothrusters (2), Stealth Device (3) Carnor Jax (34) - TIE Interceptor Push The Limit (3), Royal Guard TIE (0), Autothrusters (2), Stealth Device (3) Turr Phennir (31) - TIE Interceptor Veteran Instincts (1), Royal Guard TIE (0), Autothrusters (2), Stealth Device (3) Make one mistake, and you get rolled up.
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Man, as doofy as the TIE Punisher is it really makes me think that more of the TIEs should be in the grey-blue colourscheme of Empire and Return instead of the standard white-grey.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Man, as doofy as the TIE Punisher is it really makes me think that more of the TIEs should be in the grey-blue colourscheme of Empire and Return instead of the standard white-grey. All but three models already are, and two of those have blue-gray variants. The striker even has the blue tint despite predating the post-yavin fleet repaint.
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Poopy Palpy posted:All but three models already are, and two of those have blue-gray variants. The striker even has the blue tint despite predating the post-yavin fleet repaint. Aah, but you see the only ones in those colours that I have are the Punisher and Striker.
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BigRed0427 posted:Yeah, I'm still looking for someplace to play on a regular basis. With my experience with Magic, I kind of don't wan't to touch people playing competitively. My fear is eight other people running that two Punishing One Scum list and thats just not fun and boring. This is exactly why I'm refusing to play competitively. One of my friends is starting to loving munchy min-max everything in favor of "tournament worthiness" and say things like, "God, why would you play Darth Vader in a TIE Advanced, he's such lovely poo poo compared to 4 of these munch munch munches with these 12 exact perfectly optimized cards." Uh, because it's DARTH loving VADER and I am here to do cool poo poo and make a bad-rear end little Star Wars story in my head and I could care less if I win as long as it's awesome. Luckily I have a bunch of kids to play with and they are completely on my wavelength as well as being surprisingly good and drat near completely unpredictable in every way. Sometimes this unpredictability manifests as a shockingly awesome set of maneuvers and decisions that turns me into space dust, and sometimes it manifests itself as flying an entire squadron of TIEs through a bunch of asteroids and blowing themselves up while I look on in confusion and pretty much everything in between, all of which is extremely my poo poo. Tomorrow is X-Wing & Armada Christmas for me. When I get home I'll have a Decimator, a Star Viper, a T-65, a T-70, a VSD, and an Imperial Raider (the Armada version, not the $80 X-Wing version,  ) to open and swoop around making screeching noises with. All of these were on sale on Amazon so look how much money I saved!  I can't wait for another sale so I can save even more! Send help.
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JonathonSpectre posted:This is exactly why I'm refusing to play competitively. One of my friends is starting to loving munchy min-max everything in favor of "tournament worthiness" and say things like, "God, why would you play Darth Vader in a TIE Advanced, he's such lovely poo poo compared to 4 of these munch munch munches with these 12 exact perfectly optimized cards." I'm lucky that the guys I play with not only went hogge wild and bought literally everything, but also try to munchkin out but drive their poo poo so poorly that even my poo poo my pants lists can beat them. Not a penny spent from my side. It's great.
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JonathonSpectre posted:
Young fool... Only now, at the end, do you understand.
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Panzeh posted:Starkiller Base Pilot (30) Coordinate will not let your Hux ship use Hux if it is stressed. You can't take a free action while stressed.
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A bump just forfeits an action, it doesn't cause stress.
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Chemmy posted:A bump just forfeits an action, it doesn't cause stress. You are going to be generating stress every turn that you use Hux and the Upsilon has a pretty crap dial. You might want to think about throwing something on to help you clear that stress..
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Raged posted:You are going to be generating stress every turn that you use Hux and the Upsilon has a pretty crap dial. You might want to think about throwing something on to help you clear that stress.. I know, but you can green maneuver into a bump to get hux for the next turn- it's not a huge problem. Dial is okay- similar to Ghost but with 0-stop instead of 5-K. I think people sometimes tend to see having a red maneuver as worse than having no maneuver at all in analyzing a dial. Panzeh fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Icon Of Sin posted:Cool, thanks! That was a pretty chill tournament, I'll definitely be back up for another. Having a round end early and heading to the counter to buy a beer was a nice touch Glad you enjoyed it! I like all of the lists, nice and thematic.
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Brunas posted:Glad you enjoyed it! I like all of the lists, nice and thematic. There's another tournament coming up on 4 March in Cary, at Gamer's Armory. Have you ever been there?
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JonathonSpectre posted:Uh, because it's DARTH loving VADER and I am here to do cool poo poo and make a bad-rear end little Star Wars story in my head and I could care less if I win as long as it's awesome. Luckily I have a bunch of kids to play with and they are completely on my wavelength as well as being surprisingly good and drat near completely unpredictable in every way. Sometimes this unpredictability manifests as a shockingly awesome set of maneuvers and decisions that turns me into space dust, and sometimes it manifests itself as flying an entire squadron of TIEs through a bunch of asteroids and blowing themselves up while I look on in confusion and pretty much everything in between, all of which is extremely my poo poo. This is the best way to play X-wing. Period.
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Finster Dexter posted:Yeah, I've been enjoying casual x-wing lately. Can't wait to try out my insane Rage Dash build with Cassian Andor wingman. Ohhh do tell..
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Most of the time I bring two lists with me to x-wing night. List 1: Whatever my current Serious Business list is for an upcoming regional or something. List 2: Whatever goofy/fun/weird list I felt like running that day. And then I fly whichever one is more on my opponent's level for the day.
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lazerus06 posted:Ohhh do tell.. Cassian Andor (27) Stay On Target (2) Enhanced Scopes (1) Hera Syndulla (1) Intelligence Agent (1) Engine Upgrade (4) Pivot Wing (0) Dash Rendar (36) Rage (1) Heavy Laser Cannon (7) Kanan Jarrus (3) Outrider (5) Bandit Squadron Pilot (12) Total: 100 This list is an excuse to use Rage and Stay on Target, and that's pretty much it. Cassian flies point and sets out to block a dude. Intel Agent/Stay on Target guarantees it happens and then Dash just shoots it a bunch. Z95 because I had so many leftover points. Might take EU off Cassian and replace the Z95 with a rebel TIE when I get one. e: I've also been thinking about this: Cassian Andor (27) Stay On Target (2) Enhanced Scopes (1) Hera Syndulla (1) Intelligence Agent (1) Ion Projector (2) Pivot Wing (0) Chewbacca (42) Rage (1) Kanan Jarrus (3) Finn (5) Inertial Dampeners (1) Smuggling Compartment (0) Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1) "Zeb" Orrelios (TIE Fighter) (13) Total: 100
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The easiest way to Fly Casual is just to not have everything because you are a filthy poor. Can't fly the best lists if you don't have the cards!
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Ugly John posted:The easiest way to Fly Casual is just to not have everything because you are a filthy poor. Can't fly the best lists if you don't have the cards! Yes you can, you print off lists from the list builders.
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Oooh. ....though I had guys. Scavenger crane and stealth device? (Note the stealth device card says discard not turn face down so unsure if this works)
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bunnyofdoom posted:Oooh. ....though I had guys. Scavenger crane and stealth device? Discard and turn face down are synonymous.
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Ya, I don't see why it wouldn't. Crane asks you to select a discarded card and SD tells you to discard it if you're hit by an attack, so I think you're good.
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So I picked up the Upsiolon last night and flew it with the Decimator. Both games I flew the Upsiolon like poo poo, but it came down to a close encounter against the decimator. Any tips on not flying the Upsilon so poo poo? But next time I'm running it, I'm definitely going the Upsiolon w/Operations Specialist & Hux and 3 tie fighters w/snap shot list. Wazzu fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Feb 9, 2017 |
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bunnyofdoom posted:Oooh. ....though I had guys. Scavenger crane and stealth device? Ooooh this is a good thought
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bunnyofdoom posted:Oooh. ....though I had guys. Scavenger crane and stealth device? Is there a ship with an illicit spot that wants a Stealth Device? Maybe Captain Rex? Edit: Maybe something dumb like this: (100) Kanan Jarrus (50) - VCX-100 Fire Control System (2), Autoblaster Turret (2), Finn (5), Recon Specialist (3), Ghost (0) Biggs Darklighter (28) - X-Wing M9-G8 (3), Integrated Astromech (0) Captain Rex (22) - TIE Fighter Sabine's Masterpiece (1), Stealth Device (3), Jan Ors (2), Scavenger Crane (2) I wish Rex's Suppressive Fire condition wasn't unique. Then I might actually find a use for Baze Malbus. EnjoiThePureTrip fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Feb 9, 2017 |
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Wazzu posted:So I picked up the Upsiolon last night and flew it with the Decimator. Both games I flew the Upsiolon like poo poo, but it came down to a close encounter against the decimator. Go slow and make the most out of the first pass. Without a K-turn you MUST be thinking an extra turn ahead on how you're going to keep its gun in the fight. Unlike the Lambda you CAN get back to the fight, but ships with boost and especially barrel roll are going to be able to dodge your firing arc pretty well. I'm a huge fan of Major Stridan with Fleet Officer, Systems Officer, and Fire Control System. The action economy of that ship is just ridiculous. With a mini-swarm you may want Hux instead of whichever officer gives you focus tokens.
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EnjoiThePureTrip posted:Is there a ship with an illicit spot that wants a Stealth Device? Or guri with title?
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I kinda want to fly this Upsilon shuttle: Major Stridan with FCS, fleet officer, systems officer. Tie/fo: omega leader with juke and comm relay Tie advanced prototype: Inquisitor with title, PTL, prockets, autothrusters
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ConfusedUs posted:I kinda want to fly this The only problem here is that Inq will still be stressed from PTL, so he won't get the free evade if you use the free TL from Systems Officer on him. Same deal with Coordinate. And I'm not sure that stressing an Upsilon regularly is great with that dial.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Or guri with title? Yeah. That would require forgoing Autothrusters. And playing a Starviper.
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EnjoiThePureTrip posted:Yeah. That would require forgoing Autothrusters. And playing a Starviper. Talon bane or graz? (I am not serious in anyway)
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