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TrixRabbi posted:I know we should worry about 2018 and blocking Republicans in the mean time, but I can't help think about who the hell we can run in 2020. Warren also confirmed Ben loving Carson as Head of Housing and Urban Development, that alone could tank her. Gillibrand only confirmed Haley, who was also confirmed by Sanders, so she could have a chance.
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corn in the bible posted:Since in the 2020 election only white christian people will be allowed to vote that's who you gotta court True. Gotta catch those 3-5 million illegal voters, Mike Pence agrees! X-Ray Pecs posted:Warren also confirmed Ben loving Carson as Head of Housing and Urban Development, that alone could tank her. Gillibrand only confirmed Haley, who was also confirmed by Sanders, so she could have a chance. In three years no one is gonna remember who voted for what cabinet positions.
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Feb 8, 2017 17:06
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The Accountant: overcome debilitating autism through John Wick'ing your child.
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TrixRabbi posted:I know we should worry about 2018 and blocking Republicans in the mean time, but I can't help think about who the hell we can run in 2020. B) At what point do we accept 'divisive' isn't a point against someone anymore? My republican father and sister, who a year ago were laughing at how crazy Trump was, and saying how if he won the primary, they'd have to vote for Hillary? Current Trump supporters. Because Republican.
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Feb 8, 2017 17:17
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:John Wick because it's actually good *airhorn* I'm gonna molotov you. Shia fighting nazis should be its own genre. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7j2WnAw_kA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjyNBAnjFtw He got arrested for that second one I think.
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Feb 8, 2017 17:35
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Egbert Souse posted:It's not. We're better than that. Our weapons are ideas, reason, and truth. Egbert Souse posted:We need a loving revolution in this country the scale of France's or Russia. It's just ironic that a revolution is needed to keep the government intact rather than take it down. Look what you've done to Egbert, thread!
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Feb 8, 2017 17:38
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Samuel Clemens posted:Look what you've done to Egbert, thread! They grow up so fast. 
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FishBulb posted:The democrats have been moving to the right and appealing to republicans since Reagan. Reagan beat them so bad they decided they couldn't win on even moderately leftist policies and decided to just be republicans but a little less bad. It's how we got a world of deregulation, decreased social services, harsh drug laws and massive incarceration and a corporate hand out healthcare reform despite having 16 years of democratic presidents in there. I'd say it began earlier than that, when it became clear at the end of the sixties that there was no further progress to be made with the New Deal/Great Society welfare state without seriously infringing on the interests of property. They stuck their toes in the water of socialism and decided they didn't want to take a swim, and the only place to go then was right. Keep in mind it was Carter who set the era of deregulation into motion by beginning dereg of the oil and transportation industries, and that he appointed Paul Volcker to the Fed. TrixRabbi posted:The Dems kept moving to the right thinking there was a center to be won over, but in reality the center right just became more extreme and the wingnuts became full-blown doomsday race-war cultists. McGovern also lost on social issues and foreign policy, his economic position wasn't a major part of the campaign. In any case it included trying to replace welfare with a negative income tax style system, and wasn't appreciably farther left than the status quo at the time.
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DeimosRising posted:I don't wanna fight about what's good or whatever, you like U2 you like U2, fine. I like a few of their songs. But the day they hit they were inoffensive, and the day they got popular they were accepted by middle aged dads everywhere. Their brand of vaguely Christian pop rock and po faced liberal political ballads is the very definition of uncool. I don't think you were alive in the 80s (or were very small and don't really remember) because this is flat out untrue. It's fantasy land. I'm not trying to convince you U2 is good, but you clearly weren't around when Joshua Tree was released because holy poo poo did that thing break big and make them cool for a while. Among everyone.
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Coffee And Pie posted:Should I show Both, because both of those movies are rad. If you have to prioritize one, John Wick, but Fury is dope as hell too.
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Samuel Clemens posted:Look what you've done to Egbert, thread! I'm not necessarily advocating violence, but it's quickly becoming apparent that the opposition has to be ready to defend itself. The right has become a mass of pod people ready to do whatever they're told. But yeah, I'm loving tired of this poo poo. I feel embarrassed to be a Christian (Catholic) because there's this wholesale abandonment of values. You know when other Catholics are putting down the Pope, yet give Trump every possible accommodation... things are bad. Fascist theocracy is coming. We need more Thomas Mores and less Oliver Cromwells. Mahlertov Cocktail posted:Egbert are you listening to Chapo yet I keep intending to. Should I start with any specific episodes or just dive in? Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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CopywrightMMXI posted:U2 was decent up until 1997's Pop. It was the last album that truly felt like they were pushing their boundaries. Yes. to all that. The initial release of POP (not the remaster/re-edit/do-over version) was fantastic. I never cared for them before POP, and I can't stand anything afterwards. But that album is great.
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It's really funny how my little brother refers to things in media as being "inside" them. "you know the people inside dinotopia?? i would- i would- if i were- if i were inside dinotopia i would- i would have a dinosaur for a friend and- and- and inside dinotopia there's dinos- there's dinosaurs and-"
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Egbert Souse posted:But yeah, I'm loving tired of this poo poo. I feel embarrassed to be a Christian (Catholic) because there's this wholesale abandonment of values. You know when other Catholics are putting down the Pope, yet give Trump every possible accommodation... things are bad. You should stop by the Liturgical Christianity thread in A/T. It's only a forums thread but I think you'd enjoy the community there.
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I like that @dog_rates is woke as gently caress. https://twitter.com/warmandpunchy/status/829104431677452291
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Egbert Souse posted:I'm not necessarily advocating violence, but it's quickly becoming apparent that the opposition has to be ready to defend itself. The right has become a mass of pod people ready to do whatever they're told. The American right-wing have been bootlickers as long as I've been alive, they absolutely do not care about lives, only the bottom line for their donors. Egbert Souse posted:I keep intending to. Should I start with any specific episodes or just dive in? Episode 58: We Live In The Zone is the best starting point. Lots of mea culpas about loving up the predictions with a mix of "we should have known better" and "here's what went wrong" and "here's where we go now." It also opens with the best joke in the whole run of the show so far.
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Egbert Souse posted:But yeah, I'm loving tired of this poo poo. I feel embarrassed to be a Christian (Catholic) because there's this wholesale abandonment of values. You know when other Catholics are putting down the Pope, yet give Trump every possible accommodation... things are bad. I always wondered how Catholics were taking the current Pope. Opinion seems surprisingly diverse.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I always wondered how Catholics were taking the current Pope. Opinion seems surprisingly diverse. Still can't believed they picked a young American.
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Supposedly, Bannon is conspiring against the current pope with a conservative American cardinal. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/world/europe/vatican-steve-bannon-pope-francis.html?_r=0
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Things are starting to look unclear if I'm gonna have a place to live next week. So far the best place we've found won't be ready for a month, but we have to be out by next Wednesday and can't really afford to stay at a hotel for a month and even though we have family in the area, even with them it's hard to convince them to take us and our two cats in. Maybe we can find a better place in the next few days but to put it mildly, this is really worrying
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MacheteZombie posted:Still can't believed they picked a young American. https://twitter.com/mattvbrady/status/820868730594803712 Also Steve Bannon is a fuckin' Bond villain. Jesus. Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Skwirl posted:I like that @dog_rates is woke as gently caress. conservatives don't deserve cute dog pictures
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:conservatives don't deserve cute dog pictures Mankind doesn't deserve dogs in general, they are gratuitously bestowed upon us.
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Safety Factor posted:Supposedly, Bannon is conspiring against the current pope with a conservative American cardinal. You know, the more that comes out about this guy, the more he seems like a gigantic dumbass. If he was 30 years younger, it would be like taking Joe Rogan seriously as this Machiavellian schemer.
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married but discreet posted:Any bets on who's going to be the first in the Trump administration to get excommunicated? Spicer. He's so clownish.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Spicer. He's so clownish. His daily presser is the best/worst day time tv tho!
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:You know, the more that comes out about this guy, the more he seems like a gigantic dumbass. If he was 30 years younger, it would be like taking Joe Rogan seriously as this Machiavellian schemer. These guys keep failing up, their insistence on alienating every organization that underpins the traditional authority of the US government may accidentally liberate them from their influence (like, they might HAVE to clean house on the CIA and federal bureaucracies because they're driving them to rebellion)
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Jeez, fellas, I did say a progressive Christian. I take the various points about the futility of trying to appeal to or accommodate the right, but I was aiming more at the centrists for whom the Republicans are now a bit too crazy. I also agree with whomever posted about Trump calling fundamentalists' bluff; that was very well put. All that said, I'd still be interested to see a Democratic candidate who is genuinely progressive and Christian and can articulate the basis of their ideology with reference to their faith (even if it isn't wholly what informs them). Perhaps it's a wish fulfillment to see the Christian Right taken on using its own language and religion. I can't recall many politicians saying "We should help the poor and the weak because Jesus said so"; rather, it's "ban abortions and stone homosexuals because it's in the Bible".
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therattle posted:I can't recall many politicians saying "We should help the poor and the weak because Jesus said so" I dunno I'd prefer politician saying we should help the poor and the weak because it's the right thing to do and leave Jesus out of it
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MacheteZombie posted:His daily presser is the best/worst day time tv tho! I swear to God they keep him around because they have to have someone to laugh at too. You see how Trump and Co. are so sensitive about anybody who even mildly retorts, Spicer has got to be the guy getting raw eggs down the back of his pants and taking it with a smile because they told him he'd get a letterman jacket one day.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I dunno I'd prefer politician saying we should help the poor and the weak because it's the right thing to do and leave Jesus out of it but my ancient tome
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I swear to God they keep him around because they have to have someone to laugh at too. it's the only explanation for why they kept Chris Christie around.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Spicer. He's so clownish. The rumor's flying that his job could be in trouble because of Saturday Night Live, of all things.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I dunno I'd prefer politician saying we should help the poor and the weak because it's the right thing to do and leave Jesus out of it Oh, absolutely, but that doesn't seem possible, and I'd like to see a competing version of Christianity in the political sphere.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:The rumor's flying that his job could be in trouble because of Saturday Night Live, of all things. I believe, but I also believe he's been wearing dark suits because Don yelled at him for wearing lighter suits. (also he needs a new tailor because his current crop of suits fit him like poo poo) HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I swear to God they keep him around because they have to have someone to laugh at too. You see how Trump and Co. are so sensitive about anybody who even mildly retorts, Spicer has got to be the guy getting raw eggs down the back of his pants and taking it with a smile because they told him he'd get a letterman jacket one day. Everyone can sense that about him. One of my buddies described him with almost the exact high school example you did.
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therattle posted:Oh, absolutely, but that doesn't seem possible, and I'd like to see a competing version of Christianity in the political sphere. I would say that after this past election cycle, getting people to cotton on to the idea of economic inequality without appealing to their religion absolutely seems possible, it's just that mainstream Democrats literally didn't even try.
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