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Big Mean Jerk posted:TNG should have had Drs Pulaski and Selar instead of Crusher. Nobody cares about your irritating son or his dead dad, Beverly. Crusher was a non-entity, but Pulaski was a terrible character because she was basically written to be a new McCoy. Let's not make more out of her than was actually there.
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So you're saying McMoy but female is a bad idea for TNG?
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Timby posted:Crusher was a non-entity, but Pulaski was a terrible character because she was basically written to be a new McCoy. Let's not make more out of her than was actually there. Mediocre Remake of a Great Character > Mediocre Non-Entity Boring Cliche "Mom" Character
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Feb 11, 2017 21:44
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Pulaski is good and so are Lwaxana Troi and Captain Jellico. Vic Fontaine episodes are good to have on in the background while doing dishes.
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Timby posted:If you read between the lines in The Fifty Year Mission, it's pretty clear that McFadden was absolutely miserable by the seventh season and only did the movies for a paycheck (I think she flat-out refused to talk about Insurrection because she had nothing to do). My general feeling from the show is that Crusher and Troi started as the flattest and most disinteresting characters, which contributed to the writers almost never developing them. Gwen DeMarco serves as an indictment of almost all female characters in Star Trek.
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Feb 11, 2017 21:57
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CPColin posted:Pulaski is good and so are Lwaxana Troi and Captain Jellico. 
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Feb 11, 2017 22:00
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At least Beverly got a few good episodes. Okay, one good episode, Remember Me. Troi, on the other hand, uh. She got Face of the Enemy I guess, which was an okay episode, but I wouldn't consider it one of the best episodes of TNG, like I would Remember Me. And DS9 did the concept better with Second Skin.
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Feb 11, 2017 22:01
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I'm trying to remember what Beverly actually did in the movies. Generations: got tossed in an ocean First Contact: thunder immediately stolen by a Voyager cameo Insurrection: something about boobs firming up Nemesis: a couple lines about clones and radiation Troi didn't exactly have a full dance card either but at least she got to crash the ship a couple times.
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Feb 11, 2017 22:20
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And she got to be drunk with Riker in First Contact. It's not much, but it's better than nothing.
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Captain Jellico was a Trek hero because he made Troi wear a real uniform for gently caress's sake. Pulaski was great - the first time you see her Picard's about to yell at her and she straight up interrupts him and changes the subject. Nobody every interrupts anyone else on the Ent D so she is sassy and good.
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Feb 11, 2017 22:51
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dont even fink about it posted:My general feeling from the show is that Crusher and Troi started as the flattest and most disinteresting characters, which contributed to the writers almost never developing them. It's funny, if TNG was made now all that drama set up between Beverly and Jean-Luc re: Jack Crusher's death and secret forbidden desires would make her like the #2 or 3 character on the show.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:12
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Remember Doctor M'Benga? He was in a couple TOS episodes. In the Shatnerverse his granddaughter is a doctor too, and everyone calls her Bones.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:22
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The best doctor episode in Star Trek was when they had Bashir and the EMH and the Doctor on playing somebody else all at once.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:40
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Phimosissy posted:Mediocre Remake of a Great Character > Mediocre Non-Entity Boring Cliche "Mom" Character poo poo is still poo poo. Delsaber posted:I'm trying to remember what Beverly actually did in the movies. Troi also got to be in charge of Mission Control for the launch of the Phoenix. About the only thing McFadden got to do was to say, "Jean-Luc!" when he called Worf a coward in First Contact.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:54
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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The TV IV > Star Trek: Have you noticed how your role has gotten smaller?
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Cojawfee posted:The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The TV IV > Star Trek: Have you noticed how your role has gotten smaller? lol
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FuturePastNow posted:Someone earlier in this thread, i think, called Patrick Stewart an English redneck. I mean he's from the English North, which is like the American South. Everyone has a weird accent and no class. e: but they are much nicer
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Cojawfee posted:The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The TV IV > Star Trek: Have you noticed how your role has gotten smaller? Mods pls do the needful
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Delsaber posted:Insurrection: something about boobs firming up I had forgotten about this and now I want to forget it again.
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Feb 12, 2017 00:32
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I like Pulaski, I don't see how she's supposed to be a TNG version of Bones at all aside from her being kind of no-nonsense and it's a weird hang up to have about the character. It's like saying "well data is just the Spock of tng" which he kind of is but he also is just data, a different character.
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dont even fink about it posted:I had forgotten about this and now I want to forget it again. "Humor! I love it!"
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:Remember Doctor M'Benga? He was in a couple TOS episodes. In the Shatnerverse his granddaughter is a doctor too, and everyone calls her Bones. M'Benga owns, if only for that scene where he slaps the poo poo out of Spock. Given how often Spock gets his rear end kicked they should probably have put M'Benga in more episodes.
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Feb 12, 2017 00:50
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Finished DS9 today. What a show!
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Dr. Selar Oh poo poo you're right
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Subyng posted:I like Pulaski, I don't see how she's supposed to be a TNG version of Bones at all aside from her being kind of no-nonsense and it's a weird hang up to have about the character. ✔ Hates transporters ✔ Is racist for the record I like Pulaski, but she's totally a McCoy clone
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I just got up to the part in Enterprise where the gang has saved Earth from the Xindi. You'd better believe that I started fist pumping, hooting and hollering when my boy Shran showed up to save the day. Most upsetting moment of the show so far: 
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Pwnstar posted:I just got up to the part in Enterprise where the gang has saved Earth from the Xindi. You'd better believe that I started fist pumping, hooting and hollering when my boy Shran showed up to save the day. A Ferengi with an allergy to root beer?
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Feb 12, 2017 03:50
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My rankings: 1. Bones 2. The Doctor 3. Bashir 4. Crusher 5. Pulaski 6. Phlox
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Dr. Selar Alright yeah.
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Feb 12, 2017 04:34
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Bones wins any argument because the dude had a knife to his throat and calmly told the guy how to kill him quicker. Why he's called Bones instead of Balls is beyond me. (I have to admit, though, that something the hosts of Greatest Generation said in their first episode has stuck with me - Old Bones feels vaguely on the bad side of Old Man Racist.)
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Do it. Do it.
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Feb 12, 2017 05:08
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Gonz posted:Do it. You monster
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WampaLord posted:You monster Imagine being killed by somebody in an online game and then THAT avatar pops up and stares the victim down. Complete humiliation.
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Feb 12, 2017 05:18
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Gonz posted:Imagine being killed by somebody in an online game and then THAT avatar pops up and stares the victim down. Imagine having Neelix's face greet you every time you start up your PS4. 
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Oh no.
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Welp.
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I'm confused. Are the Klingons hiding behind those fish dudes?
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Man, how many times can the same race get hit by severely disfiguring genetic plagues, huh?
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