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ManlyGrunting posted:Sadly all of the mirages in this game are from the first Fire Emblem or Awakening (which share a universe I think?) Yeah, and there's a pretty big reason why it's only 1/3 and Awakening. Although I think technically Gaiden can also be part of this universe, if I'm understanding how that game works?
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Tae posted:Yeah, and there's a pretty big reason why it's only 1/3 and Awakening. Although I think technically Gaiden can also be part of this universe, if I'm understanding how that game works? Gaiden takes place on Awakening's Valm continent (known as Valentia now that we have its localized name) so yeah it is absolutely part of the Marth universe. You even have the Whitewings show up in Gaiden along with a dude who is totally not this other guy from FE1 we swear as playable character.
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Feb 10, 2017 23:27
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Fire Emblems 1-5 plus Awakening all take place in the same world, just at different points in history.
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Feb 11, 2017 01:38
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I can't believe they shoved their protagonist spheres into those ghosts at first and then everyone else just gets a murdering.
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RareAcumen posted:I can't believe they shoved their protagonist spheres into those ghosts at first and then everyone else just gets a murdering. I'm pretty sure Protagonist Spheres are a one time use thing, also an Itsuki-only thing.
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Feb 11, 2017 02:27
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ManlyGrunting posted:Sadly all of the mirages in this game are from the first Fire Emblem or Awakening (which share a universe I think?) I do wish the game had tried to appeal to more than just Japan with that.
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Feb 11, 2017 03:23
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Okay, can I just be the first person to say that I loving love whoever designed this game's weapons? They look cool and artistic and fancy and I love it. Itsuki's Falcion is simple, but elegant. The golden... leafing, I want to say? I'm no weapon expert. The swirly-handle stuff. It looks nice. Tsubasa's Iron Feather is very pretty, it has this nice swirling to it and the colors look nice. Touma's Iron Lance has the cool inverse triple prongs and the chain wrapped around it that makes it looks very stylized.
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Feb 11, 2017 03:48
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Justin_Brett posted:I do wish the game had tried to appeal to more than just Japan with that.
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Feb 11, 2017 04:21
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The only possible representation this game was ever going to get outside of FE1 and 13 would be like, Roy, Ike, and maybe Lyn based on popularity polls. It makes sense that they stuck with the first game and the most recent game at the time.
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Junpei posted:Okay, can I just be the first person to say that I loving love whoever designed this game's weapons? They look cool and artistic and fancy and I love it. You are going to have a rollercoaster of a time then. Some of the weapons are super sleek and cool looking and others are peak JRPG.
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Feb 11, 2017 04:29
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Do we know why Nintendo didn't do an English dub of the game? It seems a bit odd.
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Feb 11, 2017 06:02
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Item Getter posted:Do we know why Nintendo didn't do an English dub of the game? It seems a bit odd. The game bombed in Japan and they rightfully didn't expect it to do any better here - it wasn't worth it. The official reason was, in fewer words, that the game was  as all hell anyway so the Japanese voices sort of fit, and I don't entirely disagree with that either.E: Also even if there was a dub they likely wouldn't have touched the songs, so the change between English dialogue and Japanese AMVs would have been a bit jarring.
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Feb 11, 2017 06:08
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Since Touma/Cain are nominally a cavalier, why did they ditch the ccol bike for battle? losers
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Feb 11, 2017 06:41
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I'd rather have the game subtitled than not at all, though it does make me a bit nostalgic for the P4 dub. It had its ups and downs to be sure, but damned if I didn't see the host's face coming apart and think "Then I will grant you one truth..." Touma looks like he's gonna get a rough deal. Even the level-up screen gives him poo poo.
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Feb 11, 2017 06:52
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Item Getter posted:Do we know why Nintendo didn't do an English dub of the game? It seems a bit odd. Most likely finding VA's that can also sing would add too much time to the localization that it would come out before Christmas or worst case, last month when WiiU officially stopped production and they have revealed the Switch entirely.
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Feb 11, 2017 07:39
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I wouldn't mind it being subtitled so much if they didn't leave some dialog out of the translation. Like when Touma shows up and does his anime as hell translation he says a bunch of stuff that isn't subtitled.
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Feb 11, 2017 08:17
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It would have been cool if they'd subbed battle chatter. Most of it isn't super interesting but there's some boss banter, and your mirages helpfully yell at you when you gently caress up or encourage you when you're doing well.
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Feb 11, 2017 09:01
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Since Touma/Cain are nominally a cavalier, why did they ditch the ccol bike for battle? But yes, Touma should get a multi-hit physical attack where his Caincycle performs a burnout on his opponent, because coolness and all.
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Feb 11, 2017 21:38
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poorlywrittennovel posted:The only possible representation this game was ever going to get outside of FE1 and 13 would be like, Roy, Ike, and maybe Lyn based on popularity polls. It makes sense that they stuck with the first game and the most recent game at the time. Yeah, but going by polls only Marth himself would actually be reping Shadow Dragon. Only two others were actually in the top 100 of this newest one, even. Justin_Brett fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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Feb 12, 2017 00:43
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AradoBalanga posted:Because sadly cavaliers never use their horses in combat as a weapon. The only time I've seen a mount in Fire Emblem get involved in actually attacking units is the axe critical hit animation for wyvern lords in Fates, where the wyvern smacks an opponent in the face with its tail before the rider hits the target with his or her axe. Not directly, but you try to tell me fe7 paladins don't have their horses involved in their crits. They add style in a universe where looking super rad as you attack adds damage.
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Feb 12, 2017 00:56
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FoolyCharged posted:Not directly, but you try to tell me fe7 paladins don't have their horses involved in their crits. They add style in a universe where looking super rad as you attack adds damage. Just wait for Touma's super, that's all I'm saying. Kurieg posted:I wouldn't mind it being subtitled so much if they didn't leave some dialog out of the translation. Like when Touma shows up and does his anime as hell translation he says a bunch of stuff that isn't subtitled. Yeah, this was one of my bigger gripes. Every turn the characters say something, and while the models are expressive enough to get the general tone, I'd like to actually know the specifics. Same with special moves and call-outs and stuff.
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Feb 12, 2017 01:25
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I can only imagine how much harder it would be to program subtitles for midcombat speech since you could button mash past it but I wish they could've at least gotten the boss's smack talk at the start of their fights. Combat animations have yet to get flashier, we just got through the tutorial dungeon. Give it time before the
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FoolyCharged posted:Not directly, but you try to tell me fe7 paladins don't have their horses involved in their crits. They add style in a universe where looking super rad as you attack adds damage. GBA fire emblem was so stylish. 
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Feb 12, 2017 02:54
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So if the cavalier's got an optional sweet bike, does the peg knight have a jetpack?
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 Last time, we beat the boss and met Cain and Touma. Now let's get the gently caress out of here.  As it turns out, the red dome dumps us out right above the exit. How convenient.  Saved by Kiria    But it's never that easy, is it?  Ah! There's a whole bunch of them! Crap, that's a lot... Things might get a little rough here... There's nowhere to run. We have to fight! But there's so many of them...! What!? And suddenly the area gets coated in ice. Thanks mysterious benefactor, but we totally could have taken those fights, there was only like six of them.    Huh-Kiria!? Wh-Why is she here live, in person!? Ohmygosh Kiria's looking at me... Wait-don't tell me Kiria's a Mirage Master too...? Wh-What do I do? Ooh, I can feel my brain pounding... Uh, Tsubasa... if it's your brain that's pounding, something might be wrong.  Hm... Kiria can clearly see where this is going, and gets out before she gets cornered by a fangirl.  Uh, I think we have more important things to worry about... Come on, let's get out of here while we can. Maiko Shimazaki  We finally made it back. Yep! Nicely done, you two. I can't believe all that happened... but I'm just glad we all made it back safe. You can say that again... Man, I'm beat.  Ah yes, the "sexy boss" character, just what we were missing. Yeah. Though, uh, Kiria had to bail us out at the end there. And these two would be...? Oh, they're my friends: Itsuki and Tsubasa. Oh, um, it's a pleasure to meet you. I'm Tsubasa Oribe. I'm Itsuki Aoi. Ms. Maiko... Somewhere in the middle of all that mess, these two got the powers of Mirage Masters. ...Both Masters... Maybe this is fate then... Sorry, but you are...? I direct others who investigate incidents like this one. I suppose you could call me their leader. ...Investigation? Yes. Although Mirage-related incidents aren't often made public, they're more common than you know. ...The Mass Disappearance. I'm sure you're familiar with the name, at least? That was the incident where a huge number of performers and audience members just... vanished, right? Mirages were responsible for that phenomenon, too. We still don't have all the information on what they truly are... But we've confirmed that they reside in areas known as Idolaspheres and cause harm to humans. Their existence lies beyond that of our physical realm... so conventional weaponry doesn't really faze them. The only thing that can stop a Mirage is the power of another Mirage. You catch on quick. Certain Mirages can harmonize with talented humans and grant them their powers... Using these gifted powers to combat this threat to humanity - that is what it means to be a Mirage Master. Since we investigate cases involving Mirages, we NEED the help of Masters to do it. Unfortunately, those who have the natural ability for it are very rare... ... Tsubasa? Huh!? I don't know if I'll be any good at it... but if I do have some rare ability... then I want to help out! I see... You're Ayaha Oribe's little sister, aren't you? H-Huh...? How do you know that...? Still, I never dreamed that you'd get yourself involved in all this. During the incident five years ago, you were in the audience, and Ayaha Oribe disappeared before your eyes. ...Yes. And you're thinking if you become a Mirage Master... you might find some clues about your sister... correct? I've been looking all this time... I only auditioned in the first place because I thought being in the industry'd help... If becoming a Mirage Master will help me find her, then... I'll do it! I... I want to become a Master! ... Th-Thank you so much! And what about you, Itsuki? I'll do it. If there's any way I can help, just say the word. Itsuki! I knew we could count on you, man. Thank you, Itsuki. I just love kids who are always willing to help. I'll do my best, Ms. Shimazaki. Uh, oookay... I'll do my best... Ms. Maiko. Itsuki... are you sure about this...? I can't just let you do something dangerous like this on your own, Tsubasa. Thanks... Just having you by my side makes me feel like I can do anything! N-No, I mean, I'll be counting on you too, Touma! *Giggle* You three are pretty close, aren't you? Hah hah hah! It's a shame you aren't about 10 years younger, Ms. Maiko, or you could've gotten in on this. Oh, Touma? I think you and I need to sit down for a nice long chat... about your future. S-Sorry, uh, my schedule's all full up! You... have a hidden base? It's only appropriate for a secret organization to have a secret headquarters, right? Uh, Ms. Maiko, I think base might be stretching it a little- Well, I'm a very busy woman. I have some errands to take care of, so I'll see you later. And with a quick wave, Maiko disappears just as quickly as she came.  
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Artix posted:Their existence lies beyond that of our physical realm... so conventional weaponry doesn't really faze them. The only thing that can stop a Mirage is the power of another Mirage.
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God Kiria's base performa outfit looks so bad. Bondage pirate Miku is not a good look for her.
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poorlywrittennovel posted:God Kiria's base performa outfit looks so bad. Bondage pirate Miku is not a good look for her. IIRC her Japanese costume is muuuuch worse. Also Maiko has a surprisingly normal looking face for a game like this, which makes it all the weirder that she's apparently smuggling two basketballs in her shirt.
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Kurieg posted:IIRC her Japanese costume is muuuuch worse. I don't think they changed her default Carnage outfit, actually. It's bad, but I haven't heard any rumblings about that particular outfit.
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Kurieg posted:IIRC her Japanese costume is muuuuch worse. ChaosArgate posted:I don't think they changed her default Carnage outfit, actually. It's bad, but I haven't heard any rumblings about that particular outfit.
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Commander Keene posted:Most of the female characters in this game are. We've already seen Tsubasa and Kiria, and they're more stacked than high school girls have a right to be. It's funny, because neither Atlus nor IntSys has much of a history of exaggerated character designs like this. What about Devil Survivor 2 and the anti gravity boobs?
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Commander Keene posted:Most of the female characters in this game are. We've already seen Tsubasa and Kiria, and they're more stacked than high school girls have a right to be. It's funny, because neither Atlus nor IntSys has much of a history of exaggerated character designs like this. Pretend I posted a picture of Camilla because I'm too lazy to look for one on my phone.
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'more stacked than high school girls have a right to be' is a really weird sentence my dude
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The designs for some of the characters are weird, yes, though any character I've felt has a particularly egregious outfit has always had a much better option in their alt costumes. Kiria gets probably the best alternate outfit in the game, for instance.
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Commander Keene posted:Most of the female characters in this game are. We've already seen Tsubasa and Kiria, and they're more stacked than high school girls have a right to be. It's funny, because neither Atlus nor IntSys has much of a history of exaggerated character designs like this. It depends on the artist they hire, really. Mainline SMT has gone with Kazuma Kaneko most of the time and his human designs are all about that sleek and slender form and LINES LINES LINES GOTTA HAVE LIIINES. You also have Shigenori Soejima on the Persona (3 onwards) side, no introductions necessary, though to my eye hes Kaneko with a softer touch and more color, at least for the persona games, not surprising since Kaneko was his mentor. From what I can glean Toi8 (its a pseudonym for an artist) is the main character designer, and looking at their various sketches off of GIS, well its their preferred mode of design lets just put it that way. Theyre also the main character artist for I Am Setsuna. So yeah. I dont like their style personally. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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Pash posted:
ChaosArgate posted:Pretend I posted a picture of Camilla because I'm too lazy to look for one on my phone.
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Feb 13, 2017 23:37
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Toi8 is a good and unique artist 
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To the secret hideout! Which I'm sure is just some office in a building or something. I want this game now. But it's on an entirely different platform. I can't buy it for just one game  Maybe part of why the game didn't sell so well has to do with the popularity of its platform?
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Feb 13, 2017 23:43
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Blademaster_Aio posted:I want this game now. But it's on an entirely different platform. I can't buy it for just one game I mean, it probably didn't help, but Splatoon sold almost 5 million copies. I'm not saying their circumstances were the same by any stretch of the imagination, but coming off the success of both SMT IV and Fire Emblem Awakening, you'd think TMS would do better than 50k, even on the Wii U. E: And to be fair, Nintendo has said the 50k sales were within estimates so it's not like they got blindsided. It just bombed in general.
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