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not sure why but suddenly it occurs to me that this would be a good time to create a dramatic production (film or television) of akallabeth
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Bongo Bill posted:I think it would not, but in a way independent of quality.
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Annual Prophet posted:not sure why but suddenly it occurs to me that this would be a good time to create a dramatic production (film or television) of akallabeth Lord Hydronium fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Feb 8, 2017 06:10
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Bash the King's Men
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Feb 8, 2017 06:45
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sassassin posted:PJ's elves are nowhere near strange enough, or gay enough (in the way Sam would use the word, not the way it would be used to describe Sam). Celeborn's portrayal is my favorite. The actor sounds high as a kite.
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Ginette Reno posted:Celeborn's portrayal is my favorite. The actor sounds high as a kite. Haldir, who has never been hugged before, and his robot army.
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Feb 9, 2017 12:56
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sassassin posted:Theoden is a sad, grieving old man who is under the influence of at least one wizard's spell for most of his screentime. Talking incoherently is a feature, not a bug. It's that his actions make no sense, like the whole "I will not risk open war." The writers changed around the things that lead to Helm's Deep without any point to the changes whatsoever.
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Feb 11, 2017 09:26
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I think the point to the changes was not having to introduce Erkenbrand. They wanted Eomer to fill that role. Also it put some completely unnecessary tension between Aragorn and Theoden, which I guess represented Theoden's distrust of Gondor. It makes sense, but wasn't really handled well.
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Kemper Boyd posted:It's that his actions make no sense, like the whole "I will not risk open war." Theoden goes on an emotional rollercoaster due in part to how PJ interpreted Saruman's hold on him. After Gandalf frees him from the magic beard and cataracts, he discovers his son is dead and the lands are in disarray, and Eomer is gone, and so the first stage naturally has to be fear of more loss, and retreat. In the book the "spell" is different. Theoden is driven to inaction using that fear, through the words of Grima. It's not prosthetics, but the knowledge that he has been betrayed and abandoned, his son is dead etc. that keeps him pinned to the throne. Gandalf then drives that fear away, gives him the Fire back (the figurative fire that is the explicit power of his magic ring), and Theoden is a suicidal maniac bent on the destruction of his and every other people until his timely death.
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Feb 11, 2017 20:59
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I disliked that and all the overt use of magic in those movies. I hated seeing Gandalf casting dumb spells with his staff like in an Elder Scrolls game, whenever the books referred to magical things like that I imagined it was either some kind of spiritual power representing Christian faith or wisdom or technique of some kind, not beams of light and fireballs and possessions.
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Feb 12, 2017 15:53
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he does literally shoot a beam of light out his staff at the nazgul in the books he has some kind of lightning-based showdown with them at weathertop iirc he blows up the goblin king's head in the hobbit, and then he does the fireball thing the scene with the balrog is portrayed pretty much as it is in the books the films' treatment of gandalf's magic is actually not egregious and pretty faithful to the books, save for theoden's prosthetics
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Feb 12, 2017 16:42
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Yeah man, the elder scrolls invented using staffs for magic.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:he does literally shoot a beam of light out his staff at the nazgul in the books He shoots a fireball that burns some of Legolas' arrows when fighting the Wargs in Hollin, too.
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The craziest magic thing Gandalf does is his dragon firework. Which is cool because it's something totally benign and not "heroic". It's a toy he made for hobbits. The wizard fight between him and Saruman was funny though. My memory of that bit in the books was very low key. Like Saruman does his technicolor cloak thing and just tells Gandalf to go to the dungeon when he's not into it. SHISHKABOB fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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Feb 12, 2017 18:14
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sassassin posted:He shoots a fireball that burns some of Legolas' arrows when fighting the Wargs in Hollin, too. Iirc, he lights the entire ring of trees. Legolas' arrow takes the warm chieftain through the throat.
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Yup, it's the entire crown of trees on the hill. He also forces waterlogged wood to combust during the snowstorm on Caradhras. I'll agree the wizard duel was pretty stupid and cringeworthy though
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I wasn't sure whether to be impressed at the inventiveness/audacity or laugh my rear end off when Gandalf started spinning around on the floor on his side like a Three Stooges routine. WOOPWOOPWOOP 
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two very old men tightly gripping their staves and grunting
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoaO4i-v0Aw
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Why don't we talk about what's really important...how JJRT never elaborated on Gondor's tax policy! What a huge hole in setting development, amirite? 
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Feb 13, 2017 21:06
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Aragorn needs to release his tax records
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webmeister posted:Aragorn needs to release his tax records and his birth certificate yeah right, you just happen to be the long lost heir with numenor and elf and maia blood
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Feb 13, 2017 22:00
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Gondor should build a wall on the border with Ithilien to keep all the Orcs out.
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u brexit ukip it posted:Gondor should build a wall on the border with Ithilien to keep all the Orcs out. I think they tried that but the orcs brought sappers.
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#MakeArnorGreatAgain
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What's the point of having all these superweapons if we can't use them?
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Elrond thinks problems of OUR NATION solved by nine men? Typical Elvish elite. Sad!
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Telcontar has appointed someone named Smeagol to be Secretary of Juicy-Sweet Fish.
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Feb 14, 2017 04:35
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Spoke to Sauron by palantir today - we should have peaceful relations and wonderful trade!
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"aides to denethor privately expressed concern that sauron may have obtained palantir recordings showing eowyn urinating on her bower at aragorn's request. the dunedain, however, flatly rejected these assertions as an unsubstantiated smear campaign, a characterization that was not, apparently, intended as a pun."
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Feb 14, 2017 06:16
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I hope you mean dunadan.
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Denethor ran an insecure palantir. It's a disgrace, and he should be thrown in gaol.
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Feb 14, 2017 14:52
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Denethor is literally that person on your Facebook who reads too much news or "news" on the internet and has gone crazy because of it. Like that's really what happened to Denethor.
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FAKE VISIONS!
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Denethor is literally that person on your Facebook who reads too much news or "news" on the internet and has gone crazy because of it. Like that's really what happened to Denethor. And Saruman is fox news.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:And Saruman is fox news. Nah, Saruman is far more subtle.
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Feb 14, 2017 16:03
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Saruman was literally* a fascist strong man using radio to rile up the masses * figuratively
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Literally = figuratively because language is fluid and ever-changing.
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They are virtually identical .
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Ynglaur posted:Nah, Saruman is far more subtle. Hm...the Kremlin? 
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