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Errant Gin Monks posted:That's not happening. Relevant link: http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/157124759613/no-a-lot-of-people-play-modern-we-have-no-plans#notes
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Mezzanon posted:Relevant link: http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/157124759613/no-a-lot-of-people-play-modern-we-have-no-plans#notes All well and good but I meant people like me who play Legacy aren't playing standard. Also Modern sucks.
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Feb 12, 2017 09:29
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Modern is a great format but it benefits the secondary market MUCH more than the primary market so obviously Wizards isn't hot on promoting it. New sets make them money, old sets don't. That's simple. Now if they had a GOOD Modern-targeted product that would be a different story. Even more of the Modern Intro Decks a la the BW Tokens one they had - that's one way to bite in to the Modern pie. And not putting a "Premium" pricing on Modern Masters would see even more demand for it.
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Feb 12, 2017 09:55
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It would be extremely cool and good if MM17 was priced and printed at normal set rates.
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Feb 12, 2017 09:55
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Soul Glo posted:It would be extremely cool and good if MM17 was priced and printed at normal set rates.
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Feb 12, 2017 10:00
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Game Day - We had 14 people for game day at the store I frequent, which is actually a pretty good turnout, considering that barely anyone there plays Standard. I showed, up asked if someone had a spare deck, a friend handed me a G/R energy/pummeler thing and I went 3-1, losing only to a B/R vampires deck...mostly by mana screw on my own part. It was fun, I guess. Now I can go back to not giving a gently caress about Standard for at least a few more months.
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Feb 12, 2017 11:13
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Dehtraen posted:How'd everyone do at gameday? 3-1, lost the final round to my buddy playing Jeskai Trollheeli (he has the combo in the sodeboard) so he got the mat. Went with that crazy fun Colossus deck and its just as fun going Paradox Engine, Colossus, Colossus, Colossus as you might think. Then the Barrage Tyrant comes.
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Feb 12, 2017 11:17
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Re: modern chat - I'm still salty as gently caress with WotC for not re-printing Goblin Guide in either of the Zendikar sets, it would have fit the flavour, fit the lands matters theme and even fit the story. Literally the only reason I can think why they didn't is so people can't gateway in to modern with a cheap mono red deck and have to keep playing lovely standard.
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Feb 12, 2017 14:31
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Is a relatively inexpensive mono red aggro deck being viable an indicator of a healthy standard? It seems this is the first time that mono red has been bad. Even when Rhino was played as a 4-of in ~40% of 8 top decks, mono red aggro could still beat it, properly piloted, and folks still for whatever reason would and could pilot other decks to success. I'm gonna count red devotion as red aggro on account of it ran Firedrinker Satyr (I can't believe I miss him) and Eidolon of the Great Revel.
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Feb 12, 2017 14:54
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I'm not sure what you mean by "healthy", but I'm pretty sure the game's history agrees that when you can put together a competitive Standard list for $50-100 all-in, the format as a whole is way more popular than it is when you need playsets of multiple $10 rares and $20 mythics just to keep up.
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Feb 12, 2017 15:01
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The popularity of legacy did jump when caw blade was in standard. And just like people jumping into modern via Jace VP, you could trade SFM and JTMS for FOW and underground sea back then.
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Feb 12, 2017 15:11
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Chill la Chill posted:The popularity of legacy did jump when caw blade was in standard. And just like people jumping into modern via Jace VP, you could trade SFM and JTMS for FOW and underground sea back then. This is because eternal formats are good and people generally only play standard because A) they think it's cheaper or B) they have to for tournament reasons
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Feb 12, 2017 16:27
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Skyl3lazer posted:This is because eternal formats are good and people generally only play standard because A) they think it's cheaper or B) they have to for tournament reasons Or they are new to the game and it is very easy to jump into.
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Feb 12, 2017 16:36
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4c Copy cat deck that was copying Ishkanah to make an army of spiders looks pretty fun. Just had his draws run cold against a good B/G constrictor in game 3 and fell to 10-1.
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Feb 12, 2017 17:23
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Why is Hagon in the booth instead of Marshall?
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Feb 12, 2017 17:36
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Soul Glo posted:It would be extremely cool and good if MM17 was priced and printed at normal set rates. I can almost guarantee that it won't be priced lower than previous Masters but they did do a (small) second print run of EMA so nothing's impossible I suppose. The problem there is that if people buy enough MM17 to warrant an additional print run then that justifies the higher price point. But if no one buys it in protest of that price point, it would be easy enough for Wizards to say "well I guess there's no more interest for these sets" and axe the concept as a whole.
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Feb 12, 2017 17:37
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C-Euro posted:I can almost guarantee that it won't be priced lower than previous Masters but they did do a (small) second print run of EMA so nothing's impossible I suppose. The problem there is that if people buy enough MM17 to warrant an additional print run then that justifies the higher price point. But if no one buys it in protest of that price point, it would be easy enough for Wizards to say "well I guess there's no more interest for these sets" and axe the concept as a whole. I don't believe it'll be any different from any other Masters set either, but they would sell a shitload of product if it was. I mean, I'd buy an embarrassing amount of it if a box was $100 and as available as a normal set. Even if they kept the smaller number of packs per box.
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Feb 12, 2017 17:57
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I only support modern masters sets on the secondary market or with stores that offer it as an option for prize packs. Masters sets at normal msrp would be the only sealed product I would ever buy.
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Feb 12, 2017 18:06
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Frozen_flame posted:3-1, lost the final round to my buddy playing Jeskai Trollheeli (he has the combo in the sodeboard) so he got the mat. This deck makes me kinda want to play standard. That line is 100% my cup of tea.
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Feb 12, 2017 18:14
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Dzyl has been streaming a bunch of cube-like standard games involving Paradox Engine.
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Feb 12, 2017 18:30
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People are figuring out gifted aetherborn is gas in b/g. my secret tech.
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I feel like GP Pitt has had a lot of breaks in the coverage where they're just doing a power point slideshow of pro player stats or PT decklists with no music. Maybe I am just catching all the breaks by some random chance but it just seems to be happening a lot. They are doing timeshifted magic after the primary match but then there is dead space. I like the CFB coverage approach with pretty much has constant content between the end of the feature match and the start of the next round. Even the Star City approach of prior matches replaying, deck techs, or player interviews would be preferred.
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Feb 12, 2017 18:43
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Oh hey, the guy on the left is our LGS owner. Weird.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:23
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Won my game day with this. Played it because i had all of it and was lucky with getting it all on preorder when it was cheap. Will probably not play another day of standard. Deck: B/G Value   //Lands 4 Blooming Marsh 8 Forest 4 Hissing Quagmire 8 Swamp //Spells 1 Aethersphere Harvester 3 Fatal Push 3 Grasp of Darkness 3 Nissa, Voice of Zendikar 4 Oath of Nissa //Creatures 1 Drana, Liberator of Malakir 2 Gifted Aetherborn 3 Rishkar, Peema Renegade 4 Sylvan Advocate 4 Verdurous Gearhulk 4 Walking Ballista 4 Winding Constrictor //Sideboard 1 Aethersphere Harvester 1 Fatal Push 1 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet 2 Murder 2 Natural Obsolescence 2 Ob Nixilis Reignited 2 Tireless Tracker 4 Transgress the Mind  Display deck statistics
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Dehtraen posted:I feel like GP Pitt has had a lot of breaks in the coverage where they're just doing a power point slideshow of pro player stats or PT decklists with no music. Maybe I am just catching all the breaks by some random chance but it just seems to be happening a lot. They are doing timeshifted magic after the primary match but then there is dead space. I like the CFB coverage approach with pretty much has constant content between the end of the feature match and the start of the next round. Even the Star City approach of prior matches replaying, deck techs, or player interviews would be preferred. Chat blows up every time it starts, I guess it's all commercials for people without prime or a sub.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:36
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What an unfortunate feature match for twitch chat.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:40
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:This deck makes me kinda want to play standard. That line is 100% my cup of tea. I mean its still Standard but the deck is hella fun. Someone posted it here so all credit to them for it, I just tweaked it for more interaction 'cos of all the aggro. With Fatal Push maybe I should run the Implements maindeck with Renegade Map? Still plenty of powerful 2CMC stuff to kill mind.
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Sickening posted:Won my game day with this. Played it because i had all of it and was lucky with getting it all on preorder when it was cheap. Will probably not play another day of standard. Why would you preorder stuff if you're not gonna play? Was hoping for it to be a better format?
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Rinkles posted:Why would you preorder stuff if you're not gonna play? Was hoping for it to be a better format? I was optimistic. I also have poor impulse control when good cards are going for less than 3 dollars a playset. Walking balista seemed like a card that could be good in a lot of formats. Harvester seemed like a great card and pick up 2. Push was obvious all star.
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Sickening posted:People are figuring out gifted aetherborn is gas in b/g. my secret tech. Reid Duke wrote an article about it I borrowed BG for game day and lost in the final to the guy I borrowed from (on Vehicles)
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Rinkles posted:Dzyl has been streaming a bunch of cube-like standard games involving Paradox Engine. 
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Sickening posted:I was optimistic. I also have poor impulse control when good cards are going for less than 3 dollars a playset. Walking balista seemed like a card that could be good in a lot of formats. Harvester seemed like a great card and pick up 2. Push was obvious all star. i thought ballista is seeing play in like, vintage
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mandatory lesbian posted:i thought ballista is seeing play in like, vintage It is. Its a great card that could show up in any format. This set has a ton of good uncommons and rares that could potentially have a good place somewhere. I wish that translated to a good standard.
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Won gameday today with UB control. 3-0 for top 8 (1st) then powered through each match for the win.. adding some extra style by winning with Liliana ultimate both games of the final. Best part is our new (ish) store had 24 people show up which means they can level up the store status thingy so a success for all involved!
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Feb 12, 2017 20:07
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Is it just me or does mana screw feel a lot worse in standard?
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Feb 12, 2017 20:26
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TheKingofSprings posted:Is it just me or does mana screw feel a lot worse in standard? Missing a beat against any of the big 3 can be incredibly punishing.
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Rinkles posted:Missing a beat against any of the big 3 can be incredibly punishing. Agreed. Which is why people saying standard is underpowered compared to yesteryear is a bit bewildering to me.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Agreed. Which is why people saying standard is underpowered compared to yesteryear is a bit bewildering to me. Toolcraft -> Heart -> Depala/Veteran Motorist Snake -> Rishkar -> Balista -> Gearhulk Potential T4 infinite combo. Standard seems incredibly scary right now.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Agreed. Which is why people saying standard is underpowered compared to yesteryear is a bit bewildering to me. Standard answers are vastly underpowered compared to yesteryear.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Standard answers are vastly underpowered compared to yesteryear. even hero's downfall would do work in this standard
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