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Has patreon ever publicly taken heat for allowing stuff like red panels? Most places will turn a blind eye until it looks like it might impact their bottom line.
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DJ Turbo Punch posted:Am I missing something? It's been less than a month. I'm guessing that it'd be difficult to send much through the pipeline by this point even if they'd drafted it well in advance. The repubs could have had dozens of awful bills ready to go to smash through congress but they didn't. They were so focused on trying to catch the car for the past eight years they didn't really have any plan for what to do when they finally got their teeth into the bumper. Now the dems are doing everything they can to slow poo poo down and generally be uncooperative obstructionists. They can't STOP anything, really, but they can make poo poo take forever. And that tells the repubs that everything they pass will basically be on party lines so they have to 1) get their entire party to agree on something which is harder than it sounds, 2) completely own every decision and LACK of decision that comes out of congress for the next two years. This has the effect of slowing a lot of poo poo down on top of the general republican unpreparedness. Slowing things down has the effect of letting organizers rally for protests and town hall meetings to shock the poo poo out of representatives, and force them to really think about the poo poo they've said they're going to do. Basically if all the poo poo Trump wants to do doesn't get at least moving in congress before the end of April then the chances of it actually happening are extremely slim, even with a congress that is technically subservient.
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Feb 13, 2017 17:32
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I'm the goosestepping quiverfull of miffed light-colored cats.
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Feb 13, 2017 17:34
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OldTennisCourt posted:Considering his track record of hatred towards women and taking that comment into consideration it's not exactly a hard argument to make that he'd be perfectly fine with ISIS's policy towards women. He's a libertarian; he wants women to be on display with their mouths shut (unless they agree with him), not kept hidden away from everyone except their families. He definitely has as little regard for women as human beings as ISIS does, but it's not the same kind of misogyny and it doesn't make him an unironic ISIS supporter. albany academy posted:Has patreon ever publicly taken heat for allowing stuff like red panels? Most places will turn a blind eye until it looks like it might impact their bottom line. Yeah it's seeming like this is the best option -- it's in their interests to ignore it, so you'd have to make a big enough stink of it to change their interests.
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Feb 13, 2017 17:46
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SpaceGoku posted:The repubs could have had dozens of awful bills ready to go to smash through congress but they didn't. They were so focused on trying to catch the car for the past eight years they didn't really have any plan for what to do when they finally got their teeth into the bumper. That makes me feel a lot better about our odds of reducing Trump's impact over the next two years. I don't doubt that some horrible poo poo will probably get passed, but at least it can be minimized until the mid-terms/impeachment.
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Feb 13, 2017 17:49
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DJ Turbo Punch posted:That makes me feel a lot better about our odds of reducing Trump's impact over the next two years. I don't doubt that some horrible poo poo will probably get passed, but at least it can be minimized until the mid-terms/impeachment.  Our best hope is that the Dems keep up the fight, win back the Senate in 2018, and give Trump the finger until 2020 at which they need to buckle down and win some loving elections. If not they won't be able to clean up any lingering tiny orange spray tan hand prints left on our country.
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Feb 13, 2017 17:53
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I wonder if the implications of the welfare-queen cat having differently colored kittens are intentional. If it was RedPanels, I'd know for sure, but...
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Feb 13, 2017 17:53
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DJ Turbo Punch posted:That makes me feel a lot better about our odds of reducing Trump's impact over the next two years. I don't doubt that some horrible poo poo will probably get passed, but at least it can be minimized until the mid-terms/impeachment. Yeah bad poo poo will still happen, but the first 100 days of any administration are always critical if only because after 100 days congress is getting drat close to needing to figure out a budget. Then next year it's campaign season for congress turds again. And the year after that you've got another short window to theoretically get poo poo done, before the hell march towards the next presidential election begins.
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Feb 13, 2017 17:54
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loquacius posted:He's a libertarian; he wants women to be on display with their mouths shut (unless they agree with him), not kept hidden away from everyone except their families. He definitely has as little regard for women as human beings as ISIS does, but it's not the same kind of misogyny and it doesn't make him an unironic ISIS supporter. You can say as much as you think that it was a joke, but the dude happily supports feminists being beheaded. That is exactly the same kind of vile hate and misogyny that ISIS embodies. The dude may feel icky he stands behind any group that calls themselves Islamic but he embodies the same hatred they do for women. If ISIS came out today and said they were focusing their attention only on women the next comic that fucker would make would be "Well....they ain't all bad!"
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Feb 13, 2017 17:57
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D.N. Nation posted:Mike Lester is fat now. Good to know. Well if you eat nothing but Chick-Fil-A spitefully, drink heavily, and your only exercise is hitting your wife, then yes you get fat.
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Feb 13, 2017 17:58
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OldTennisCourt posted:You can say as much as you think that it was a joke, but the dude happily supports feminists being beheaded. That is exactly the same kind of vile hate and misogyny that ISIS embodies. The dude may feel icky he stands behind any group that calls themselves Islamic but he embodies the same hatred they do for women. If ISIS came out today and said they were focusing their attention only on women the next comic that fucker would make would be "Well....they ain't all bad!" I think you misunderstood. He said that as a tasteless joke. He doesn't literally support ISIS.
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Feb 13, 2017 18:20
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Let's lighten the mood a bit with a brief history of Vladimir Putin.
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Feb 13, 2017 18:41
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Geh kak afen yam, Kirschen.
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Feb 13, 2017 19:09
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albany academy posted:Has patreon ever publicly taken heat for allowing stuff like red panels? Most places will turn a blind eye until it looks like it might impact their bottom line. During GamerGate they very slowly withdrew support for the guy who runs (ran?) 8chan. One time they suspended his Patreon, he came back with some transparent bullshit about making YouTube videos of his cat or something. After the stuff about child porn started getting more mainstream attention, they finally banned him for good. Like some other companies I'm aware of, they're very lethargic about banning even the foulest things, due to ~free speech~. I'd give pretty good odds KKKlurf gets to stay.
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Feb 13, 2017 19:12
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 Guardian:  "Martin Rowson on the Labour party leadership – Labour’s new elections coordinator has said the party has plenty of leadership candidates to choose from if Jeremy Corbyn steps down before the next general election" Telegraph:  North Korea shoots missile 500km in 'show of force' to Trump, says South Independent:    After Hokusai. Times: 
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Feb 13, 2017 19:30
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i will never ever understand labels when something is obvious. that's obviously assad. even if it was a lovely caricature the hangings were all over the news. gently caress. i think there was one a month or so ago with trump and mattis speaking and trump directly addresses him and the cartoonist still wrote "MATTIS" on his suit.
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Feb 13, 2017 19:39
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Wasn't the 9th Circuit Court only 3 judges? So where'd this fourth one come from? Jesus Christ, I think Branco really is our biggest loving moron.
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Feb 13, 2017 19:40
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Groovelord Neato posted:i will never ever understand labels when something is obvious. that's obviously assad. even if it was a lovely caricature the hangings were all over the news. gently caress. Even if it's a good caricature, the audience may be ignorant enough not to know who it is.
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Feb 13, 2017 19:47
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Tei posted:the mistake you made was lack of automatization. Instead of signing a single EO, you should have made a computer program to generate a million of almost identical EO's banning Moose Lambs and digitally sign these. The 9th Circuit had to replicate a similar process or need 14 million days to declare them all null. Oh computer-generated filibusters - I remember when they tried to amalgamate several cities into "Greater Toronto" a filibuster was done by creating individual amendments for public hearings for every street in the cities affected, date changes, etc. I'm kinda amazed the US hasn't gotten to that level of petty, to be honest.
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stillvisions posted:Oh computer-generated filibusters - I remember when they tried to amalgamate several cities into "Greater Toronto" a filibuster was done by creating individual amendments for public hearings for every street in the cities affected, date changes, etc. Hey, thats interesting. I will tell one of my coworkers that is laywer. Edit: do you have a link to that? I tried googling it but is hard to search. Tei fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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Feb 13, 2017 20:09
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Fulchrum posted:How the gently caress is that good? Rall seems to be suggesting the responsible thing for Dems to do would either be to have instituted a coup before January or have just abandoned the concept of politics to literally become a terrorist group. how the gently caress are you getting that from this comic?  He's criticizing Dems for having no balls and for once I agree
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Feb 13, 2017 20:24
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What a mess this is. I'm noticing Branco's Trump is always innocently watching as lie-bruls wildly take control, not unlike that meek Hitler cartoon. Also, I like how Trump just vaulted up to that shelf he's on, likely by way of his big, strong hands. However on a positive note, the woman in the foreground with her teddybear-wielding child does not have Branco's usual rear end that juts out.
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Feb 13, 2017 20:25
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Feb 13, 2017 20:34
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TheBigAristotle posted:What a mess this is. I'm noticing Branco's Trump is always innocently watching as lie-bruls wildly take control, not unlike that meek Hitler cartoon.
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Feb 13, 2017 20:44
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Trump is using medieval means to ineffectively fight off our enemies. In reality this only wounds them and enrages them further. The court realizes that a more direct, face to face method is needed to quell those who would do us harm... and maybe straight up violence isn't the answer. A "Branco is an idiot" cartoon.
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Feb 13, 2017 20:47
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SSNeoman posted:how the gently caress are you getting that from this comic? There is literally no form of resistance pure enough for Ted Rall. When the Dems actually do what he wants (Two whole bills! Letting the Republicans figure out ACA repeal unassisted!) he still pretends they're traitors to the glorious revolution.
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Feb 13, 2017 20:48
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Shangri-Law School posted:There is literally no form of resistance pure enough for Ted Rall. When the world finally comes to its senses and declares Ted Rall the new Philosopher King, we will know true peace.
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Feb 13, 2017 20:50
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Sandpuppy posted:
The Eclipse arc was pretty loving brutal. 
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SSNeoman posted:how the gently caress are you getting that from this comic? Some people think Ted Rall's problem is that he criticizes Democrats sometimes
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After The War posted:The Eclipse arc was pretty loving brutal. Im looking forward to the arc where Guts and Casca fight Trump
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Tei posted:Hey, thats interesting. I will tell one of my coworkers that is laywer. I was going off memory and this was back in 1997 so there's not much on digital copy but I found a few bits: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/famous-filibusters-in-political-history/article584553/ Mentions it without the "computer generated" part. https://www.questia.com/library/journal/1G1-19693464/filibustering-in-the-age-of-computer Just gets to the meat of it, but depending on their library access they might be able to see it all. (And yeah, wikipedia isn't a good source but might give you more to go on) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster#Provincial talks about it in the second paragraph; I'd forgotten that one amendment slipped past without a nay vote so they had to strike that out later. It refers to the official transcripts. There's a few other articles that cite it offhandedly if you google for Ontario filibuster and computer or megacity. I'm pretty sure that was a pioneering moment in obstructionism: 24 hours a day for almost ten days.
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SSNeoman posted:how the gently caress are you getting that from this comic? Then you haven't been paying any attention. Objectively, Democrats are engaging in heavier amounts of obstructionist and resistance to Trump than Republicans did to Obama, to the point where a cabinet position needed Mike Pence to break the tie, which has never happened before.
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Feb 13, 2017 21:14
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Fulchrum posted:Then you haven't been paying any attention. Objectively, Democrats are engaging in heavier amounts of obstructionist and resistance to Trump than Republicans did to Obama. Let's hope they continue. The only way to prevent Trump from committing unrepairable damage to the USA is by pretty much preventing him and his administration from governing. But at the same time it's okay if the discourse (and therefore the public opinion) is that they aren't doing enough to obstruct. Alternative facts are how the game is won nowadays; let the Democratic Party be a force of obstructionism while presenting the alternative fact that they're incredibly accommodating.
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Feb 13, 2017 21:17
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Shangri-Law School posted:There is literally no form of resistance pure enough for Ted Rall. When the Dems actually do what he wants (Two whole bills! Letting the Republicans figure out ACA repeal unassisted!) he still pretends they're traitors to the glorious revolution. Which is not to say that he's not still a contrarian hack, of course.
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Feb 13, 2017 21:17
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It is legitimate and wise strategy to continue to be tough on politicians even after they do what you want. However, Rall and his ilk have neither the skill not the perspective needed to pull this off. When you can't even acknowledge progress, people learn to ignore you because you will never say anything that you haven't said already.
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Feb 13, 2017 21:29
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Fulchrum posted:Objectively, Democrats are engaging in heavier amounts of obstructionist and resistance to Trump than Republicans did to Obama Please enumerate the objective measures behind this assessment.
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I'm glad Rall made a cartoon with agreeable content. Now he just needs to improve his anatomy, perspective, panel construction, joke writing, coloring, shading, and he'll be a good cartoonist!
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