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You want to post it? Behind a paywall.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 05:29 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:You want to post it? Behind a paywall. quote:The WA Nationals have preferenced the Greens ahead of their Liberal colleagues in two upper house regions, including putting the state’s agriculture minister Mark Lewis behind a sitting Greens legislative councillor. My favourite line is bolded.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 05:41 |
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Barnett's cooked. I feel like I should put a bet on him getting back into power though because society at large is totally hosed and people just do the stupidest thing possible whenever possible
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 05:54 |
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Jonah Galtberg posted:????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? He only distanced himself from those comments inasmuch as they made the Q Society look bad, he didn't really denounce them at all.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 06:17 |
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NTRabbit posted:Anecdotally, I heard there was a solid core of people organising the women's march in Sydney who tried to ban transgender people and sex workers from participating, and verbalised them a little during the march. That's definitely the case generally, but that's not my experience with WARC.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 06:53 |
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Hey, so about that new enhanced vetting for ON candidates. WA One Nation candidate claims gay community uses Nazi-style mind control
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 07:04 |
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quote:"It's not by accident; it's by a carefully contrived but disingenuous mind control program, melded together by two Norwegian homosexuals who graduated from Harvard – one of whom has since prematurely passed away. I wonder who the surviving Norwegian homosexual is?
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 07:42 |
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Really enjoying this trend of ON nominating increasingly unstable candidates. Malcom Roberts believing Al Gore shilled Global Warming to make money is funny but this Norwegian Gay Mind Control and the guy who couldn't be bothered to clear his facebook of all his SWEATY MULATTO BUTTS and MEDIEVAL CUCK FANTASY likes are really raising the bar in a post-satire One Nation.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 07:46 |
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Senor Tron posted:My favourite line is bolded. Coming from a Victorian Liberal, that's quite hilarious. Mine is: “We’d be a less tolerant country, we would be a country that doesn’t understand our trading partners … We would be a country that would be providing ineffective answers to difficult problems.” So close to getting it. Schneider Inside Her posted:Barnett's cooked. How likely would they dump Barnett after a respectable interval if they win? It seems they'll run themselves into the ground with this, the way Victorian Liberals enfeebled themselves.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 08:10 |
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Periphery posted:Troll him at election time. Ask him for proof that he's who he says he is (photo with the date and forum username or something like that). Document it. Then just casually ask a bunch of questions bout stuff and document all the horrible poo poo he says. Then at election time dump his horrible responses on twitter or anonymously to the media. Dude's name is possibly Ethan Boris, or some variation thereof. I had a quick google search but couldn't find anything that stood out.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 10:34 |
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They'd have to get rid of him for sure. If this One Nation gambit doesn't work he'd be toxic for sure. I think the general vibe is that he's done his dash but who knows? The state is 40 billion in debt and has no real way of getting out. He did build a bunch of new stuff (stadium, elizabeth cauldron, citylink) but as we all know any kind of debt is unnacceptable. Also, he's now borrowing to pay for basic amenities. His plan is to flip 51% of Western Power but even if he does that he'd have to sell that every year. Also privatising utilities is loving dumb and it has been every single goddamn time.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 10:34 |
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Newman!
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 10:46 |
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Back, and to the left.
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Schneider Inside Her posted:His plan is to flip 51% of Western Power but even if he does that he'd have to sell that every year. Also privatising utilities is loving dumb and it has been every single goddamn time. Gosh I wonder what happened to all those lovely iron royalties.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 15:21 |
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Speaking of podcasts, The Double Disillusionists have returned for 2017 (rss feed) and in the latest entry ask the question you almost never hear from the MSM: whats the government strategy with the coal and the One Nation and name-calling Shorten? It's a good question. They ask are the govt thinking that going so far Right that perhaps this will somehow trick the left into going Hard Left and then they win the middle? They point out that the middle generally win elections so this strategy of going Ultimate Right is a bit odd. Is it to Trump the ALP? Doubtful, since that kind of politics has always bubbled away in places like Queensland and it's never transferred federally. Speaking of federally, One Nation have some weird state policies. Like protecting chiropractors and cutting the number of MPs by half. Possibly this is all in aid of getting the Opposition to be the story, rather than the government. The ALP are distinctly quiet, letting all the government drama play out. Perhaps the whole pass the parcel with a piece of lacquered coal was part of that strategy because I couldn't see the point other than to snub the BCA and enrage Twitter.
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ewe2 posted:Speaking of podcasts, The Double Disillusionists have returned for 2017 (rss feed) and in the latest entry ask the question you almost never hear from the MSM: whats the government strategy with the coal and the One Nation and name-calling Shorten? I'm not discounting the possibility that the Coalition has some nth-dimensional mastergame happening but whenever I look at the likes of Pyne, Dutton, Abbott et al, I go for the simplest explanation: This is all just student politics writ large. Win the news cycle, have a good week, embarass the other side. Their backers want results, Malcolm needs polls to improve, they desperately need good press or at least bad press about the ALP. They're not even bothering with genuine attempts to duchess the Senate crossbench. It's all just stupid stunts, wacky props, Dorothy Dixers etc. The kind of crap that only appeals to the rusted on. Meanwhile the country literally burns.
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Capt.Whorebags posted:This is all just student politics writ large. Win the news cycle, have a good week, embarass the other side. Most of the time this is the explanation I go with; it was just interesting to hear someone ask the question why, as if there might be something else to it. Some Twitter cynics have suggested it's pure distraction politics to divert attention away from the terrible legislation they're trying to ram through, but the trouble is that you need to get the legislation through for the ploy to succeed. When the legislation fails because they cannot and will not negotiate in any kind of faith good or bad, it gets noticed and it draws attention to the legislation itself and the public realise we're back to 2014 and the pattern will be the same this year. He's tried the double dissolution tactic, it nearly failed and the triumph of getting the ABCC bill through was rather muted due to all the caveats. Meanwhile there is an absolute mountain of failed legislation and seemingly no more ideas from the brains trust and another two years of term. It's looking really dire.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 21:48 |
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ewe2 posted:Meanwhile there is an absolute mountain of failed legislation and seemingly no more ideas from the brains trust and another two years of term. It's looking really dire. Isn't there still a lot of items on the IPA wishlist?
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 22:26 |
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Why did he do this? Is it like when a bunch refused to be present for rudds stolen generations thing?
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 23:01 |
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Oh I should have just looked at the replies. He really is that horrible
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 23:08 |
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The CFA getting an allowance increase is reported on the front page of the herald sun, the headline covers 30% of the page and reads: UNION PAY OFF On Google the Hun's headline is: CFA pay deal bypasses EBA stalemate, gives career firefighters increased allowances And on their website: Tens of millions of dollars in perks helps break CFA deadlock
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 23:14 |
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quote:https://thewest.com.au/politics/carbon-tax-just-brutal-politics-credlin-ng-s-1674127 This was always pretty obvious, but it's nice to have it confirmed.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 23:41 |
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Cirofren posted:The CFA getting an allowance increase is reported on the front page of the herald sun, the headline covers 30% of the page and reads: UNION PAY OFF What actually happened: the UFU carried forward provisions and allowances from the 2010 EBA instead of trying to get the 2016 EBA through Fair Work Australia. Because if they try and get it through FWA it'll be held for the next several years due to the Liberals' legislation saying that volunteers can have a say in professional firefighters' pay and conditions. Which is loving stupid.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 01:07 |
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quote:https://www.crikey.com.au/2017/02/13/swiss-say-no-to-company-tax-cuts/ Thank Christ we don't have to vote on decisions like this here.
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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/feb/15/taxes-rise-ndis-welfare-cuts-blocked-government-warns?CMP=soc_567 posted:
Cool, raise the corporate tax cut
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tithin posted:Cool, raise the corporate tax cut yeah, pretty hollow words from hollow men. "Uh, ignoring the big tax cut we just implemented, but we need to raise taxes to pay for services - duh!"
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 05:31 |
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Why can't we have higher corporate and personal taxes?
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 06:03 |
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quote:“then of course tax increases become the only option”. Glad to hear the government finally conceding it may be time to ramp down the tax incentives given to housing speculators. Oh wait, no, they mean the taxes that won't hurt them.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 06:06 |
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If they do raise taxes it'll be the GST or something at least as regressive.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 06:07 |
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open24hours posted:If they do raise taxes it'll be the GST or something at least as regressive. Requires way too much negotiation, they're still scared from the last time the idea was floated.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 06:14 |
Remember the story about the government MP who ran a Gloria Jeans Franchise, complaining about how high penalty rates were for weekends and that she could only afford to stay open if she got family to come in and work for nothing? The store owner reportedly refused to extend their lease.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 06:35 |
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The Liberal party will raise taxes and accept all the backlash so that the next government can have those sweet tax dollareedoos?
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 07:03 |
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TF2 HAT MINING RIG posted:The Liberal party will raise taxes and accept all the backlash so that the next government can have those sweet tax dollareedoos? They're just laying the groundwork to be able to blame Labor for tax increases despite the fact they will have been out of power for half a decade.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 07:14 |
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I propose a new tax bracket. People earning between $0-18,000 will now pay 70% of their income and/or welfare payments as tax. Failure to comply will result in a 5 year term in a job creation creation facility where they will build state of the art green energy renewable coal power stations. These high quality public assets will then be sold to the richest people in the country for $1 - this will ensure their ongoing efficient operations and maximise the public benefit they yield.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 07:25 |
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I think we should have a new gst that only corporations have to pay.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 07:34 |
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A Guillotine and Severance Tax. Pay the Tax or take the hacks. Only rich riff raff need apply.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 07:48 |
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Cartoon posted:A Guillotine and Severance Tax. Pay the Tax or take the hacks. Only rich riff raff need apply. Next time you have libs talking at you about "personal responsibility" and "self-reliance" thank them in finding common ground about a 99% inheritance tax.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 09:53 |
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Galaxy 15/02 posted:We’ve also had federal voting intention results from the weekend’s Queensland poll by Galaxy for the Courier-Mail, which has One Nation on 18% (up six since November), the Coalition on 35% (down four), Labor on 29% (down one) and the Greens on 8% (steady), with the Coalition down a point on two-party preferred to lead 51-49. The poll was conducted last Wednesday and Thursday from a sample of 867. *wipes sweat*
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 09:57 |
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ewe2 posted:He's tried the double dissolution tactic, it nearly failed and the triumph of getting the ABCC bill through was rather muted due to all the caveats. Meanwhile there is an absolute mountain of failed legislation and seemingly no more ideas from the brains trust and another two years of term. It's looking really dire. QFT. There's no big picture here. Even the poo poo they're trying to push through is a half-hearted sell of the LNP/IPA Greatest Hits. Revoke this. Reinstate that. Rewind to the Glorious Howard Epoch. Where the gently caress do they see this country in 10 years? The answer of course is that it's not important as long as they're in charge. I can't see any change on the horizon, now that the role of the PM has been effectively neutered by the hollowmen. Rudd was the last one to be given carte-blanche and I can't see either party machinery being keen to return to that.
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it's almost sad how pathetic the turnbull government has been what is his vision? what is his message? even abbott managed to vomit out "stop the boats" and "axe the tax". turnbull can't even manage pithy slogans, let alone big landmarks like the apology or the NBN or the NDIS. the greatest achievement of turnbull's prime ministership is reinstating a construction industry workplace relations watchdog. completely worthless.
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