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asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pureauthor posted:

Overwatch is like Dota except bad.

... Or was that League of Legends.

Actually, videogames in general are like Dota except not quite as good.

Nah Overwatch is like TF2 except good. And bad.

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Viewtiful Jew
Apr 21, 2007
Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!

Bass Bottles posted:

The Nintendo third party games argument is like the Jupiter's red spot: a never ending storm , eternal.....

The anthropomorphized personification of Western AAA third-party support pointing to their reproductive organs going, "You will never get this, you will never get this, la la la la la."

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003
The WiiU was not a financial success and it didn't matter because it had an awesome library. Now imagine that again but also with the possibility of a great 3DS library and maybe even more great third party games.

I don't know about you but I am excited!!

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Imagined posted:

I'd be happy if the Switch just ended up with a library more like what's on the 3DS. Nintendo first party and quirky Japanese third party stuff. I still think people should think about this as a portable system and not compare it to the PS4. If you're going to plug this into the dock and never unplug it again you're very much not the target market.

In all likelihood, this is what is going to happen. It's going to be a hybrid console with a weird mix of strong Nintendo console games and 3DS-esque games. It'll probably do handheld level sales and have some cool ports.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Imagined posted:

I'd be happy if the Switch just ended up with a library more like what's on the 3DS. Nintendo first party and quirky Japanese third party stuff. I still think people should think about this as a portable system and not compare it to the PS4. If you're going to plug this into the dock and never unplug it again you're very much not the target market.

I'd love an expanded or new version of Pocket Card Jockey on the Switch. Make it Formula-1 or something.

Come on Gamefreak, you know you wanna.

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

Pureauthor posted:

... Actually, while we're on the subject, how come Sonic games keep getting better music than Mario games (with the standout exceptions of the Galaxy games)?

VideoGames posted:

Just imagine I'm doing the yikes guy emote on constant repeat.

ColonelJohnMatrix
Jun 24, 2006

Because all fucking hell is going to break loose

There is also already a confirmed mainline Fire Emblem game and almost certainly a new Animal Crossing. Switch, even if it winds up being a turbo-charged 3DS, will be fine because the 3DS is amazing.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



lelandjs posted:

Location, location, location. I bought Witcher 3, Overwatch, and Watch_Dogs 2 for my PS4 instead of on Steam because I wanted to be able to play on the couch with a controller, and I'd rebuy Witcher 3 and Overwatch for the Switch even if they received severe graphical nerfs because being able to play either of those games anywhere I want would be loving awesome.

Why not just get a Steam Link?

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




If the switch is 'just as good as' the 3DS then i'll be very happy because that's a great console with an awesome library !

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

It's actually true though

Like that's the one consistently good thing about Sonic

E: someone is fumbling for a YouTube video from the Bioware game as we speak

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




I'm about as casual a Sonic fan as is possible (i liked the racing game and generations the best) and even I know that City Escape always bangs.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

s.i.r.e. posted:

Why not just get a Steam Link?

This.

75% of my Witcher 3 gametime was from playing on the couch with a Steam link.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

s.i.r.e. posted:

Why not just get a Steam Link?

Tried that. Online games didn't work great because even the Steam Controller can't stack up against K/M players and there were odd issues with games that cropped up (I had to jump through hoops to get some games to work).

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke
i sure hope someone makes a good collectible card game for the switch

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax

lelandjs posted:

Nah Overwatch is like TF2 except good. And bad.

Mostly just bad haha man the guns don't even have weight it's like shooting noodles haha it's just a butt simulator haha


Blazing Zero posted:

i sure hope someone makes a good collectible card game for the switch

Just give me Pokemon TCG like the GBC version but better, forever. Recent TCGs that are digital have all been 'pay more $$ for packs of cards' and I just want a complete game where I get cards by battling, like the good 'ol days.

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

TheKingofSprings posted:

It's actually true though

Like that's the one consistently good thing about Sonic

E: someone is fumbling for a YouTube video from the Bioware game as we speak

No, just Mario 3D World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6QW-rFtKfA

They can both be good. Hope that doesn't make me in line with South Park because I don't poo poo on one series to praise another.

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
my screen protector will be made out of a chainmail weave of shrink-rayed steam links

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

Phantasium posted:

No, just Mario 3D World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6QW-rFtKfA

They can both be good. Hope that doesn't make me in line with South Park because I don't poo poo on one series to praise another.

Nobody took a dump on anything though?

Something being better doesn't make the other thing bad, yeesh.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



lelandjs posted:

Tried that. Online games didn't work great because even the Steam Controller can't stack up against K/M players and there were odd issues with games that cropped up (I had to jump through hoops to get some games to work).

I know there's somethings like the Razer Turret that are meant for Mouse and Keyboard couch gaming, which I guess you could try but that sucks. I thought the Steam Link was pretty flawless in execution, but I never had any experience myself with one.

Stan Taylor
Oct 13, 2013

Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy

s.i.r.e. posted:

I know there's somethings like the Razer Turret that are meant for Mouse and Keyboard couch gaming, which I guess you could try but that sucks. I thought the Steam Link was pretty flawless in execution, but I never had any experience myself with one.

The steam link rules. You need to have a wired connection but you really should have one of those regardless, especially if you're playing online. I do most of my multiplayer stuff at the actual computer so I can use a keyboard, but it rules for lazy couch rocket league and I loaded up TF2 and ended up at the top of the scoreboard using a contoller as a heavy. Some overwatch classes play fine with a controller too, like mercy and torbjorn.

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

TheKingofSprings posted:

Nobody took a dump on anything though?

Something being better doesn't make the other thing bad, yeesh.

Sorry, this is the switch thread, I tend to assume based on the plethora of bad posts

WarpDogs
May 1, 2009

I'm just a normal, functioning member of the human race, and there's no way anyone can prove otherwise.
I recently took the protector off my WiiU gamepad for the first time in like 4 years or whatever it's been, and drat man, it's seriously in pristine condition.

now I can finally enjoy my mint-condition screen for exactly 17 days

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008
I wish you could play hard mode in BotW from the start and it's kind of lame it's locked behind dlc, but Nintendo has been pretty reasonable about all their dlc so I'm still getting it all for BotW

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

We heard anything about 200cc being in MK8 Switch? Because more online 200cc would be excellent

Modus Pwnens
Dec 29, 2004
This makes me want to wait to play BotW, since I'm really bad at revisiting games once later DLC comes out. But I'm basically buying the Switch for Zelda at the start, so... Hrmm, not sure what to do.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


All of Nintendo's DLC has actually been pretty awesome and what DLC should really be about so I have high hopes for the BotW DLC

PeePot
Dec 1, 2002


Disappointed that the Switch won't act as a second screen for maps/inventory. Playing through Wind Waker and Twilight Princess on the WiiU was loving magical. I giggled with glee the first time Link popped up on the gamepad when collecting a treasure chest.

Is there a grip option for the Switch when playing in tablet mode? Something to make it more comfortable like the WiiU gamepad. This thing has conflicting pictures http://a.co/em53PCN

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

PeePot posted:

Disappointed that the Switch won't act as a second screen for maps/inventory. Playing through Wind Waker and Twilight Princess on the WiiU was loving magical. I giggled with glee the first time Link popped up on the gamepad when collecting a treasure chest.

Is there a grip option for the Switch when playing in tablet mode? Something to make it more comfortable like the WiiU gamepad. This thing has conflicting pictures http://a.co/em53PCN

I'm sure Nyko will put out some terrible grippy thing

Hammer Bro.
Jul 7, 2007

THUNDERDOME LOSER

I must be getting old and curmudgeonly because all of my opinions now appear to be contrary ones but I'm rather upset that Hard Mode is behind a DLC paywall, even if Nintendo does have a good history of not-lousy DLC. I just think micro-transactions -> paid DLC -> rent seeking in general provide the wrong incentives for developers.

Conversely (but still contrarily), I'm excited to see Unity and Unreal Engine build targets for the Switch out of the gate. I don't have much time for gaming anymore, so I tend to gravitate toward the quirky independent or small-studio stuff, and just about all of the indie/small studios use one of those two middlewares.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Hammer Bro. posted:

I must be getting old and curmudgeonly because all of my opinions now appear to be contrary ones but I'm rather upset that Hard Mode is behind a DLC paywall, even if Nintendo does have a good history of not-lousy DLC. I just think micro-transactions -> paid DLC -> rent seeking in general provide the wrong incentives for developers.

Conversely (but still contrarily), I'm excited to see Unity and Unreal Engine build targets for the Switch out of the gate. I don't have much time for gaming anymore, so I tend to gravitate toward the quirky independent or small-studio stuff, and just about all of the indie/small studios use one of those two middlewares.

My base assumptions are 1. Nintendo is good and 2. making a Hard Mode can be done poorly (you take 10x damange now and everything else has 10x health) or done well (someone mentioned stuff like remixing thing, making stuff more scarce, moving stuff around etc), so I'm going to say I'm optimistic Nintendo will do it well and all that balancing and stuff does legitimately take more work and effort to make sure it's still fun, so if it's that I'll be happy and if it's stupid I'll be upset.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through
Didn't get the 3rd off work.

:smith:

Pretty sure I can still get a neighbor or someone to grab the packages off my porch for me. Any idea what carrier Best Buy uses in the US?

Spellman
May 31, 2011

I'm over dual-screen gaming. It's never done anything egregiously offensive, other than Star Fox Zero, but it was unnecessary in most cases.

Even supposed good uses like Zelda, where you can swap items without pausing seemed like a good idea at the time, but it doesn't actually make things easier. You still have to move your eyes to a second screen, which is more effort than just pressing start, and you can get hit by enemies while doing it.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Spellman posted:

I'm over dual-screen gaming. It's never done anything egregiously offensive, other than Star Fox Zero, but it was unnecessary in most cases.

Even supposed good uses like Zelda, where you can swap items without pausing seemed like a good idea at the time, but it doesn't actually make things easier. You still have to move your eyes to a second screen, which is more effort than just pressing start, and you can get hit by enemies while doing it.

It was nice in Monster Hunter to disable the UI from the top screen, I liked having the main game view have no indicators or whatever during most of the game (item stuff would still pop up), and you could glance at the bottom screen for the relevant info, but for the most part yeah.

I'll miss the 3D though!

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.
Every good use for "second screen" works just as well or better on the phone. By "every" I mean the only one I can think of, which is using Google during Game of Thrones to remind yourself who the gently caress The Blackfish is supposed to be.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp

Spellman posted:

Even supposed good uses like Zelda, where you can swap items without pausing seemed like a good idea at the time, but it doesn't actually make things easier. You still have to move your eyes to a second screen, which is more effort than just pressing start, and you can get hit by enemies while doing it.

I disagree entirely, the second-screen item swapping was part of what made the 3DS version of Ocarina of Time's water temple so much better, for example. It's far faster to equip and unequip items using a touchscreen, which is important in a series with as many item-based puzzles as Legend of Zelda.

It was really great having the treasure maps up on the second screen for Wind Waker.

Spellman
May 31, 2011

Dr Cheeto posted:

I disagree entirely, the second-screen item swapping was part of what made the 3DS version of Ocarina of Time's water temple so much better, for example. It's far faster to equip and unequip items using a touchscreen, which is important in a series with as many item-based puzzles as Legend of Zelda.
I think the ease of the Water Temple is being attributed to the touch screen isn't correct, it's that you could assign the boots to a button that was making it easier.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

Dr Cheeto posted:

I disagree entirely, the second-screen item swapping was part of what made the 3DS version of Ocarina of Time's water temple so much better, for example. It's far faster to equip and unequip items using a touchscreen, which is important in a series with as many item-based puzzles as Legend of Zelda.

It was really great having the treasure maps up on the second screen for Wind Waker.

How are you supposed to get so angry that you throw your controller through the television screen if the Water Temple is easy?

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



Soul Glo posted:

Didn't get the 3rd off work.

:smith:

You think that's bad, I couldn't even try and get the day off because my Switches are being delivered to work! So I have to wait all day for the mail, get it, and then just have it stare at me in the face until I get off work. :suicide:

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp

Spellman posted:

I think the ease of the Water Temple is being attributed to the touch screen isn't correct, it's that you could assign the boots to a button that was making it easier.

Yes, that was probably the single greatest improvement, but the touchscreen inventory management was an additional improvement over that. There were two additional item slot buttons on the touchscreen that were ideally suited for puzzle items like the boots, things that you wouldn't necessarily be mashing on during combat. It's easier to move puzzle items back and forth between inventory slots with a touchscreen.

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Hace
Feb 13, 2012

<<Mobius 1, Engage.>>
Dual screen is great for mobile since both screen are always in view and there's limited space to convey information

Bad for home console tho

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