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WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Pwnstar posted:

Like the whole point of the baseball episode is that they got destroyed but they troll the Vulcans hard by laughing and celebrating anyway.

MrBibbs is the Vulcan captain.

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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




This sounds familiar.

MisterBibs
Jul 17, 2010

dolla dolla
bill y'all
Fun Shoe

WickedHate posted:

MrBibbs is the Vulcan captain.

Not enough actively pointing out that a literal extraterrestrial race understands and appreciates a sport better than a human who claims to be a fan to be me. :colbert:

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Payndz posted:

I always liked the way that the holodeck apparently projected an ever-so-slightly-larger monochrome version of everybody around themselves in Captain Proton.

In that same episode, didn't the holodeck's lights go out (like the simulation's fake light sources) when Voyager lost power?

That's a smart computer, bubble up outside failures into the illusion.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




bull3964 posted:

In that same episode, didn't the holodeck's lights go out (like the simulation's fake light sources) when Voyager lost power?

That's a smart computer, bubble up outside failures into the illusion.

That could've been okay - say that the repli-props were still there (it was a small set). Except they were even still black and white.

ChairMaster posted:

Well for all we know they could all be packed in there with like 1 foot of space between them and the computer is just creating holograms in their face and creating force fields all around them in such a way that the feedback matches the simulation perfectly at all times so that it feels like they're moving around even though it's all just haptic feedback. With a high enough roof they can be standing on force field platforms too.

It's not that much more impossible than the idea of a holodeck in the first place, is it?

Once you get to a certain point you may as well leave out the deck and just have individual man-sized holo-pods where there's not even a general illusion, just two projection cups over your eyes while you hang suspended inside forcefields.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Feb 14, 2017

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Another Voyager goof. If the holodecks ran on a different incompatible power source, then they should have crammed as many people as possible into them as bunks and shutdown decks of the ship where life support was no longer needed.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

bull3964 posted:

Another Voyager goof. If the holodecks ran on a different incompatible power source, then they should have crammed as many people as possible into them as bunks and shutdown decks of the ship where life support was no longer needed.

Barclay ran it past the Voyager crew, but they all thought "why don't you all bunk in the holodeck" was a euphemism and rightly turned him down.

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Data Graham posted:

God, I hope all the credits are in that horrible font.

CNMWN MCWMWNNMNWFM *cuts away instantly*
Welshie!!!!!

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Trip report: DS9 - Emissary, Part 2. Yeah we're that slow going.

Definitely better than part 1; Sisko with the Prophets was compelling, if still a bit goofy.

Miles is like Scotty to the power of Geordi though (that is, Scotty Geordi ). One day in on a wrecked alien station with no resources and he's already able to whip up some magic technobabble to lower the station's inertial mass.

Tunicate posted:

Barclay ran it past the Voyager crew, but they all thought "why don't you all bunk in the holodeck" was a euphemism and rightly turned him down.

Also, with the holodeck's track record, that'd be way worse than sleeping in a supposedly haunted house.

Winifred Madgers fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Feb 14, 2017

Angry Salami
Jul 27, 2013

Don't trust the skull.
Plus, we've seen what the holodeck thinks a table should look like, I wouldn't trust it to create beds...

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Angry Salami posted:

Plus, we've seen what the holodeck thinks a table should look like, I wouldn't trust it to create beds...

The beds in Fairhaven seemed to work just fine...

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






"Computer, make a bed." *basic wood-frame twin bunk appears*

"Now make it out of metal." *bed transforms into Iron Maiden*

:stare:

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Computer, make a bed capable of raping Data.

Subyng
May 4, 2013

Cojawfee posted:

Computer, make a bed capable of raping Data.

:yikes:

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


McSpanky posted:

"Computer, make a bed." *basic wood-frame twin bunk appears*

"Now make it out of metal." *bed transforms into Iron Maiden*

:stare:

The capitalization of iron maiden produced a very different mental image for me

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009

Cojawfee posted:

Computer, make a bed capable of raping Data.

But enough about Cardassian beds

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

Sash! posted:

The capitalization of iron maiden produced a very different mental image for me

Bed suddenly has Nicko McBrain lounging on it, bouncing his eyebrows at you.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Cojawfee posted:

Computer, make a bed capable of raping Data.

Scudworth
Jan 1, 2005

When life gives you lemons, you clone those lemons, and make super lemons.

Dinosaur Gum

twistedmentat posted:

That reminds me i need to get back to listening to the Greatest Generation.

The Search for the Natural Yeager

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Cojawfee posted:

Computer, make a bed capable of raping Data.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

MisterBibs posted:

It would've been awesome if it turned out that one or more of Our Heroes had some actual talent for the sport that nobody knew about. poo poo, Nog's actor was actually a good baseball player, so he had to throw with his non-dominant hand so he could play badly. That way, you could have the Niners be a talented team that barely lost, rather than the lovely "lol we lost but had heart" nonsense.

It's clear that in the Trek universe, one of the casualties of the third world war was baseball sabermetrics. this guy is not a baseball player, no wonder people stopped paying attention.

Or baseball itself. I'm reminded of Interstellar. The Yankees are playing in a municipal park probably meant for little league because nobody gives a gently caress anymore and society can't really sustain sport teams like they do now yet .

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

I hate the crew infiltrates an alien ship/base episodes. They never make sense.

Bashir found that Cardassian-disguised-as-human dude by waving a tricorder at him, so how does that ever work? Anyone could be discovered immediately any time, even just by accident. Especially in times like these where people are paranoid about changeling infiltration and blood-testing everyone all the time.

But even that aside: the universal translator. It works okay as a plot device so the crew doesn't have to Darmok their way through every new planet. But it totally falls apart when you're dependent on the translator to infiltrate a Romulan ship or the Klingon high command or something. Like isn't it kind of weird that the computer is picking up Betazoid speech from Major Rakal of the Tal Shiar and translating it for you? That's just a bit strange, no, why is she walking around speaking Betazoid? And why can't she read, does the Tal Shiar hire illiterates now in some kind of ADA program for the disabled?

I'll forgive the holodeck because whatever it's a magic room, not important to the story. But the believability of the disguises is crucial to the infiltration plots and it falls apart if you think about it for 5 seconds. Here's Worf trying to teach Odo and O'Brien how to act like real Klingons but they don't even speak the language and even if somehow no one notices their words are being translated, they can't read.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Klingon illiteracy is a longtime problem with the Empire.

Angry Salami
Jul 27, 2013

Don't trust the skull.
With the universal translator so ubiquitous, nobody bothers learning languages any more. Everyone's all speaking their own weird dialects and obscure languages, knowing the computer will translate everything for them, so nobody thinks it's weird when someone shows up speaking gibberish.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




They just said they were from klingon-quebec.

Duckbox
Sep 7, 2007

Well, their lip movements always line up with their translated speech anyway, so I just figure everyone has complicated neural implant that just overwrites whatever audio and visual imputs they're actually getting with the translated ones. Maybe the translator goes ahead and rewires people's brains so everyone looks like a human with crap on their forehead while it's at it.

It's an insane blanket solution for what would be something of a niche need and all, but it could be that it was designed that way so people couldn't turn it off or mess with the settings for "safety" reasons. Can't have Ensign Bumblefuck going insane because his translator malfunctioned on the way to meet some unnamable horror, after all. Maybe the Medusans made it mandatory as a condition of joining the Federation so they wouldn't have to hide in boxes anymore.

Or there's no such thing as a "Universal Translator" at all and all the other species just happen to speak English because of ~convergent evolution~ but no one wants to admit that. Maybe the Klingons are all like third generation immigrants who barely speak their family's language but still know all the curse words.

Scudworth
Jan 1, 2005

When life gives you lemons, you clone those lemons, and make super lemons.

Dinosaur Gum

Duckbag posted:

I just figure everyone has complicated neural implant that just overwrites whatever audio and visual imputs they're actually getting with the translated ones.

The universal translator is inside the Starfleet combadge, ferengi have them mounted in their ears.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I would make sure that no one in my secret base had a universal translator. At least have a minor barrier for infiltration.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




But then the Dutch sued section 31.

This seriously isn't that big of an issue, there are plenty of languages out there, I'm sure seeing people with the mouth movements of translation is fairly common even for Klingons. Those loving Gor'hak'na Province warriors refuse to just speak Standard Klin. Language of their forefathers my arse.

I'm sure once translators appeared most people'd stop bothering being bilingual.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Feb 14, 2017

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Scudworth posted:

The universal translator is inside the Starfleet combadge, ferengi have them mounted in their ears.

Can't be in the combadge, away teams lose their badges all the time and have zero problem communicating. Maybe it's in the stomach and that's why that one ensign in DS9 "The Ship" suddenly started speaking Spanish when he was dying.

Angry Salami posted:

With the universal translator so ubiquitous, nobody bothers learning languages any more. Everyone's all speaking their own weird dialects and obscure languages, knowing the computer will translate everything for them, so nobody thinks it's weird when someone shows up speaking gibberish.

You think you'd at least check whether the language being translated is from an enemy alien race and not Romulan Boston.

Maybe it's like people going missing from the ship. The computer knows but passive-aggressively doesn't bother to tell you unless you ask it. That's what you get for making me simulate all that anime porn on the holodeck, assholes.

Pwnstar
Dec 9, 2007

Who wants some waffles?

Much like the doors of the ship, the translator has an absurdly advanced AI. Not only does it have effectively instantaneous translation of thousands of different languages and dialects but it can anticipate when the speaker wants a certain word to be untranslated.

Scudworth
Jan 1, 2005

When life gives you lemons, you clone those lemons, and make super lemons.

Dinosaur Gum

VitalSigns posted:

Can't be in the combadge, away teams lose their badges all the time and have zero problem communicating.

Yeah, but it's only ever been explained on the show to be in the combadge, which didn't make sense in many situations. They should have it as an ear implant for everyone like the ferengi.


Pretty sure it was voyager that established it was in the badges so thanks again for everything, voyager.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Pwnstar posted:

Much like the doors of the ship, the translator has an absurdly advanced AI. Not only does it have effectively instantaneous translation of thousands of different languages and dialects but it can anticipate when the speaker wants a certain word to be untranslated.

It's not that hard. Most of the time the person says "In Klingon there is a word *gobbledygook* which means, you fart of my dad, I fart on your dad." It's usually pretty obvious whenever someone is intending to use their native language.

Though maybe it is contradicted by Darmok, but it would be cool if a species lost its language. They put in universal translators at birth so no one really learns a language, the translator just intuits what they mean to say. So someone without a translator just hears everyone on the same planet using different random noises.

MrJacobs
Sep 15, 2008

Cojawfee posted:

It's not that hard. Most of the time the person says "In Klingon there is a word *gobbledygook* which means, you fart of my dad, I fart on your dad." It's usually pretty obvious whenever someone is intending to use their native language.

Though maybe it is contradicted by Darmok, but it would be cool if a species lost its language. They put in universal translators at birth so no one really learns a language, the translator just intuits what they mean to say. So someone without a translator just hears everyone on the same planet using different random noises.

I'm pretty sure this happened on Earth. Nobody speaks creole, or Russian, just have the accents.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

MrJacobs posted:

I'm pretty sure this happened on Earth. Nobody speaks creole, or Russian, just have the accents.

Sometimes totally different accents than what they should have, for example, noted British Frenchman Jean-Luc Picard.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Scudworth posted:

The Search for the Natural Yeager

Did they ever open the elusive Biff Yeager card?

Man, I love that story they tell about how he wanted to be the official ships engineer so badly he got people to write into Paramount on his behalf.

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008
I think I have a new brotp, I mean imagine the sarcastic possibilities!

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

twistedmentat posted:

Did they ever open the elusive Biff Yeager card?

Man, I love that story they tell about how he wanted to be the official ships engineer so badly he got people to write into Paramount on his behalf.

It's even better than that. They got "fan mail" asking for him to be Chief before his episode had even aired. Dude was shameless.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Like if someone whose casting hasn't even been announced yet started a twitter campaign asking CBS to make him the main character.

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Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Big Mean Jerk posted:

It's even better than that. They got "fan mail" asking for him to be Chief before his episode had even aired. Dude was shameless.

I thought it was his agent that did that, not the guy himself.

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