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Gatts posted:True. I wouldn't be surprised if Wakanda does have super-tech on that order, they just don't show it off all the time. Panther and his dad in Civil War seemed very "We may not look like much, but cross us at your own peril" sorts and it would make sense for Wakanda to follow suit.
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Ant-Man is one of my favorite MCU movies, but it is absolutely dragged down by the "intrusion of the Marvel universe into an otherwise functional plot", which is sad because it's super obvious that that's the sort of thing that Edgar Wright got fired over and those scenes come across pretty different from the stuff he wrote, IMO. Captain America 1 still the best MCU film, though. Winter Soldier (despite muddled ending), Iron Man 1 and 3, and Guardians also good. Really hoping that Thor 3 will be as good as I'm hoping it will, but I have a suspicion that it might fall prey to the same "need to integrate other Marvel movies" issue that Ant-Man did.
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Laura is not happy to be the star of a bootleg internet video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqqF07kN5d4
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Feb 15, 2017 16:43
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Saw the latest Marvel movie and what do you know, the brilliant white man with an underappreciated girlfriend suffers a traumatic experience, learns a valuable lesson and becomes less of an rear end in a top hat. Even with the freedom given by the setting, this is just a Tony Stark flick with glyphs and old books instead of lasers and touch screens, wrapped in the same MCU package we've seen thirteen times. What's the point?
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Feb 15, 2017 16:55
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You guys are really onto something about the pattern of these Marvel movies, except the part where Tony changes or learns anything.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:00
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I wonder how they'll be doing underwater scenes. Will they be all murky and stuff or will we get a kind of "Aqua-vision" view so that everything isn't ridiculously dark and obscured all the time?
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Feb 15, 2017 18:11
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Chairman Capone posted:Ant-Man is one of my favorite MCU movies, but it is absolutely dragged down by the "intrusion of the Marvel universe into an otherwise functional plot", which is sad because it's super obvious that that's the sort of thing that Edgar Wright got fired over and those scenes come across pretty different from the stuff he wrote, IMO. This is my favorite thing because, without looking, go ahead and say what Wright wrote and what was done by Peyton Reed.
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Martman posted:I wonder how they'll be doing underwater scenes. Will they be all murky and stuff or will we get a kind of "Aqua-vision" view so that everything isn't ridiculously dark and obscured all the time? What if the ocean was in color?
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Feb 15, 2017 18:52
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Chairman Capone posted:Ant-Man is one of my favorite MCU movies, but it is absolutely dragged down by the "intrusion of the Marvel universe into an otherwise functional plot", which is sad because it's super obvious that that's the sort of thing that Edgar Wright got fired over and those scenes come across pretty different from the stuff he wrote, IMO. How is it dragged down by MCU involvment? I mean Pym having a history with SHIELD and Stark helps back up his logic that they can't be trusted with his technology. Is it just because he fought the Falcon? Also, wasn't it confirmed the Falcon fight was in Wright's script?
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Feb 15, 2017 19:10
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Never seen a single person who didn't know about Wright say the movie felt like two separate things.
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seravid posted:Saw the latest Marvel movie and what do you know, the brilliant white man with an underappreciated girlfriend suffers a traumatic experience, learns a valuable lesson and becomes less of an rear end in a top hat. Even with the freedom given by the setting, this is just a Tony Stark flick with glyphs and old books instead of lasers and touch screens, wrapped in the same MCU package we've seen thirteen times. What's the point? Remember this feeling when someone asks you if you want to see the 14th/15th/16th one! notthegoatseguy posted:How is it dragged down by MCU involvment? I mean Pym having a history with SHIELD and Stark helps back up his logic that they can't be trusted with his technology. Is it just because he fought the Falcon? Also, wasn't it confirmed the Falcon fight was in Wright's script? I felt like in a non-franchise movie they still would've had a Notable Henchman for him to fight in that sequence, it just wouldn't be a familiar face. Martman posted:I wonder how they'll be doing underwater scenes. Will they be all murky and stuff or will we get a kind of "Aqua-vision" view so that everything isn't ridiculously dark and obscured all the time? And more logistically, how much of the filming time will Momoa be spending in a water tank.
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Codependent Poster posted:This is my favorite thing because, without looking, go ahead and say what Wright wrote and what was done by Peyton Reed. Some of the funniest parts were added after Wright left even.
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seravid posted:Saw the latest Marvel movie and what do you know, the brilliant white man with an underappreciated girlfriend suffers a traumatic experience, learns a valuable lesson and becomes less of an rear end in a top hat. Even with the freedom given by the setting, this is just a Tony Stark flick with glyphs and old books instead of lasers and touch screens, wrapped in the same MCU package we've seen thirteen times. What's the point? The best was how since he's a rich white guy he's able to master the ancient arts they very pointedly say would take years of dedication to master the same way his surgical skills took except he's able to unlock the Eye and go toe to toe with dudes like 48 hours later. Best part of the movie is Benjamin Bratt's character being introduced via a basketball scene, an incredible call back to Catwoman.
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Feb 15, 2017 20:54
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Neo Rasa posted:The best was how since he's a rich white guy he's able to master the ancient arts they very pointedly say would take years of dedication to master the same way his surgical skills took except he's able to unlock the Eye and go toe to toe with dudes like 48 hours later. I think it was more than two days. His ex girlfriend seemed like he had been gone for a decent amount of time. Ultimately his study time was done mostly while he was astral-projected, so time slowed down by like 1/500th or more. And the character Strange seemed like the type of person who could get lost in his research, especially since he was making noticeable (and magical) gains. Basically, I don't view him learning his magic stuff quickly-ish as a plot hole. And I'm pretty loving critical of the Marvel movies.
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Drifter posted:I think it was more than two days. His ex girlfriend seemed like he had been gone for a decent amount of time. Ultimately his study time was done mostly while he was astral-projected, so time slowed down by like 1/500th or more. And the character Strange seemed like the type of person who could get lost in his research, especially since he was making noticeable (and magical) gains. They explicitly say that she hadn't seen him for over a year. So, sometime after he flips out at her in his apartment and when he comes back is about a year. His training is probably about 10-12 months.
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Feb 15, 2017 21:13
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To Strange's defense, he's not known to have come from a corporate dynasty like Tony Stark. He has photograhic memory. They don't mention his family or anything, but I didn't get the impression he was rich before he was a doctor.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They explicitly say that she hadn't seen him for over a year. So, sometime after he flips out at her in his apartment and when he comes back is about a year. His training is probably about 10-12 months. Well the movie didn't pay any attention to McAdams, so I can be excused for not listening to her as well. 
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Drifter posted:Well the movie didn't pay any attention to McAdams, so I can be excused for not listening to her as well. Yeah, I was just supporting that you were correct that it was much longer than 48 hours.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Yeah, I was just supporting that you were correct that it was much longer than 48 hours.
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KoB posted:Some of the funniest parts were added after Wright left even. Peyton Reed listed a lot of the changes that Paul Rudd and Adam McKay made. One of the biggest was the increased role for Evangeline LIly, and all the stuff with Michael Pena. The fight with the Falcon came from McKay. The idea of Scott sacrificing himself and going into the microverse at the end came from Reed. I'd still love to read one of those Wright/Cornish drafts regardless. But I was pretty happy with the movie that came out (Apart from the fact that Corey Stoll is like immediately villainous).
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Halloween Jack posted:You guys are really onto something about the pattern of these Marvel movies, except the part where Tony changes or learns anything. Half of this phenomenon to me is Joss Whedon sabotaging everyone's character development. I didn't really have problems with the Iron Man character until Avengers 2 retconned basically all of the Iron Man and Captain America movies.
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Re. Strange: a year might've passed, but I don't know how he got out of Mount Everest in the first place. Surrendering control and silencing his ego were the keys to cast portals (and everything else?) and, at that point in the movie, he certainly hadn't done either. No, he remained his old bastard self, mocking everything, stealing books and performing forbidden spells and then he became the best wizard ever!
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seravid posted:Re. Strange: a year might've passed, but I don't know how he got out of Mount Everest in the first place. Surrendering control and silencing his ego were the keys to cast portals (and everything else?) and, at that point in the movie, he certainly hadn't done either. No, he remained his old bastard self, mocking everything, stealing books and performing forbidden spells and then he became the best wizard ever! He was already able to kinda get things started - you saw he was able to make baby sparks. Add in a near death experience and who the gently caress knows? And like all things, actual methods and methods taught to beginners to help them get started can vary wildly. Maybe his control didn't need to be completely surrendered and an ego could still have a bit of volume. Again, he clearly put in the time if we assume he spent a week a day studying in his astral form. I mean, it doesn't matter - I don't think it detracts from the movie itself. It's not like it's a movie grounded in reality and realistic outcomes.
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Drifter posted:Again, he clearly put in the time if we assume he spent a week a day studying in his astral form. Oh, I'm fine with that, I just used it to segue into my thing... which also doesn't really matter compared to every other issue I have with this movie. It just felt (at the time) like a scene was missing between "trapped at Everest" and "portals his way out". seravid fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Martman posted:I wonder how they'll be doing underwater scenes. Will they be all murky and stuff or will we get a kind of "Aqua-vision" view so that everything isn't ridiculously dark and obscured all the time? Hopefully Atlantis uses assloads of bioluminescence and geothermal related phosphorescence, giving them lots of light in rainbow colors. Glowing crystals would be cool too.
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Oh poo pooquote:Warner Bros. Courts Mel Gibson to Direct 'Suicide Squad' Sequel http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/warner-bros-courts-mel-gibson-suicide-squad-sequel-974436
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The Gibson's a pretty solid director.
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I'd prefer Gibson on the Batman, something serious in nature since he knows how to do drama
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Drifter posted:The Gibson's a pretty solid director. I should've phrased that post better, I don't think is a bad idea and I'm actually impressed by WB swinging for the fences by approaching Gibson. Certainly it would be something to behold. Also, I found interesting the timing of this note after all the doom and gloom that the rumor about Affleck caused on the usual places.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:I should've phrased that post better, I don't think is a bad idea and I'm actually impressed by WB swinging for the fences by approaching Gibson. Certainly it would be something to behold. The big problem seems to be the DC execs loving things up by imposing their own poo poo. I have no idea how good Suicide Squad 1 might have been, but studio interference really made it about as bad as it possibly could. Even with Gibson on it, if the execs try to flip their dicks around, it's not going to be interesting.
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I doubt Gibson is going to be super interested. He's on record hating the current trend of comic book movies. It's an interesting pick by WB though.
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This is his opportunity to say something about it then. But like I feel, he needs serious subject matter and hero. Not sure who but would be nice to be someone or a team not obvious.
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What Jewish villains could they use for Suicide Squad 2 though?
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I read somewhere that Ridley Scott was one of the directors interested in the next Batman movie. I really want to see that happen, just like David Fincher's World War Z 2. How will Gibson secretly make Suicide Squad 2 into a Christian movie, though?
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Drifter posted:The big problem seems to be the DC execs loving things up by imposing their own poo poo. I have no idea how good Suicide Squad 1 might have been, but studio interference really made it about as bad as it possibly could. Even with Gibson on it, if the execs try to flip their dicks around, it's not going to be interesting. what did studio interference do to suicide squad?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:What Jewish villains could they use for Suicide Squad 2 though? Not really a villain, but recently the comics have right out said that The Phantom Stranger is literally Judas.
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Ridley's been on WB's list since Man of Steel. They really want him to direct a superhero movie for them, and it wouldn't surprise me if the fact that they've willingly tossed a lot into Blade Runner 2049 is part of them trying to entice him to make something. But I don't think they've ever gotten to the point where they've out and out asked him.
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Drifter posted:The big problem seems to be the DC execs loving things up by imposing their own poo poo. I have no idea how good Suicide Squad 1 might have been, but studio interference really made it about as bad as it possibly could. Even with Gibson on it, if the execs try to flip their dicks around, it's not going to be interesting. Wasn't a pretty decent part of the issue that the whole process of the movie was rushed as gently caress? I heard somewhere that the script was thrown together in just a few weeks.
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