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7c Nickel posted:You're wrong on several points here. Rolling is completely disabled. Parrying works, but you can't cancel a parry if they feint which leads to a slowified heavy which leads to you lying on the ground taking bonus damage. Oh yeah I guess you can't roll. I never tried to. Feinting being stronger against low stamina is a good point, although you can still block heavies unless they're unblockable (in which case you can usually just dodge) DrGreatJob posted:You cannot roll. Attacking is incredible slow. You can get knocked off of cliffs by blocking strong attacks. You get knocked down by getting thrown. Literally everything you do is affected in some way... You shouldn't go near cliffs when low stamina, but true. Also you can still guard break cancel so it doesn't really matter what happens when you get thrown because being thrown in this game is often deadly no matter what Good points though, I didn't know some of that stuff
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Barent posted:You and Zaphod, but I digress. Just an observation. panda clue is a bit fanboyish but on the whole he's an alright guy please don't lump him with Zaphod.
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Glukeose posted:Also generally, does anyone have good suggestions for how to lock down a Nobushi? Them and Orochi are the only classes I consistently lose against and it's getting under my skin. Trying to trade hits on long range will get you kilt.
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Minorkos posted:correcting misinformative posts Hello, friend! Please try to post a little less inflammatory. You are allowed to make whatever statements you wish about the game, but think more about they come across. I would really appreciate that.
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So did we ever settle on a Discord server? Nothing in the OP yet and I want to be bad at this game with goons.
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panda clue posted:ok here is the never gonna get put in the OP 
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panda clue posted:never gonna get put in the OP already done did it 
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rap music posted:already done did it 
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rap music is at least as good an OP and Ubisoft is a developer and he has my full support.
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Does anyone have experience with the Conqueror in higher level play? It feels like her lack of feint could be crippling. I'm doing really well with lots of parries on my lower mmr but once people start consistenly feinting that would get punished hard.TV dog Wishbone of PBS posted:Wow this playerbase is getting toxic fast. Is this normal for fightin games?I've been called every racial slur ever in several languages.
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Glukeose posted:Also generally, does anyone have good suggestions for how to lock down a Nobushi? Them and Orochi are the only classes I consistently lose against and it's getting under my skin. Nobushis can be very predictable if you know the hero. If you get GB against a nobushi they'll hit a heavy, then follow that up with a kick. Always be ready to dodge left/right against Nobushi because if the kick hits you'll eat a free bleed attack. After you dodge the kick don't attack unless you're an assassin. Even if Nobushi misses the kick she can still follow up with the bleed and you might eat it while you're mid animation with a slow character.
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So if I enjoyed chivalry but got extremely annoyed by powerplayers whirlwinding bent over 90 degrees and instagibbing me, is this worth it? Can a relatively old rig (fx6300 - radeon 7950 - 8gb ddr3 ram) run it fine? Most importantly can I press a button to have my character scream madly?
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i had a lot of fun playing the beta on a laptop (A8-5550M/Radeon HD 8550G if that means anything to you, it doesn't to me lol) on lowest settings. Like that it's not quite worth it at $60 but i'll probably pick it up whenever it goes on sale.
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TorakFade posted:So if I enjoyed chivalry but got extremely annoyed by powerplayers whirlwinding bent over 90 degrees and instagibbing me, is this worth it? Can a relatively old rig (fx6300 - radeon 7950 - 8gb ddr3 ram) run it fine? This was my problem with chivalry, though the physics combat was fun. The waist bend and the archer snipers were frustrating parts that aren't here. The guard lock makes the combat more like soul caliber than chivalry or mount and blade. The spirit of the MnB bayonet fight is alive in this game. It's feels like a spiritual successor to bushido blade to me. E: Oh, and there's not much yelling, but there are a lot of boats and menacing looks.
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Psycho Society posted:i had a lot of fun playing the beta on a laptop (A8-5550M/Radeon HD 8550G if that means anything to you, it doesn't to me lol) on lowest settings. Like that it's not quite worth it at $60 but i'll probably pick it up whenever it goes on sale. it's $51 on greenmangaming.com. Anyone have an idea how I could practice counter guard breaks, other than the advanced tutorial? I have done the advanced tutorial but found it super easy but still can't do it in a real match.
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TorakFade posted:Most importantly can I press a button to have my character scream madly? No, its the game's biggest flaw IMO You can emote spam though.
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That reminds me, who other than Warden has a good zone attack for mixing into regular fights? I've had some success with the Zerker spin, but who else?
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Captain Oblivious posted:That reminds me, who other than Warden has a good zone attack for mixing into regular fights? I've had some success with the Zerker spin, but who else? Conqueror has a decent spin attack that can catch people off guard since it might look like a regular light attack but it's followed up by a quick 2nd attack. Does garbage damage tho iirc. Edit: I don't know if you can confirm into a light attack combo with it. I haven't tried yet. Double Edit: Forgive me if my use of fighting game terminology is incorrect. I am still learning. Ice Fist fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Sultan Tarquin posted:Decided to learn the Lawbringer to see if he was bad as his reputation and man. Wow. Yeah this guy is bad. He's supposed to be the king of parries and counter attacks yet all his combos and swings are so slow the only damage that you can get is the free light attack from a parry. His shove and parry attack are combo starters but you're so loving slow you'll never get them off. You can't even get a hit from a shove and his stamina usage is crazy that if you manage to actually do something by the time you can capitalise on it you're jack poo poo out of stamina. Dunno, man. I consider myself a pretty decent Orochi, and Lawmaker is one of the hardest opponents I can face. He has instant parry recovery times, meaning if I parry his attack and go in with a super fast light attack, he's able to block it. Literally nothing works against him if he's on top of his guard break game. All I can do is feint him and hope he falls for my sneaky poo poo. He's a very tough champion to face. You should keep practicing with him, because I really don't think he's a bad character. Getting parried by him and then slammed to the depths of hell by his unblockable is just insanely powerful. Ice Fist posted:Conqueror has a decent spin attack that can catch people off guard since it might look like a regular light attack but it's followed up by a quick 2nd attack. This is a guaranteed Orochi fucker, because we have to constantly mash the block directional to keep safe from it. Our guard stance only lasts a second or so, and the duration of the attack is longer than that, so if you don't continue blocking that direction, you get spinned to winned. Qubee fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Perestroika posted:Getting kinda pissy about the Warden's superfast top light and area attack The area attack always comes from the same direction. When in neutral vs a warden, just always be blocking to your left. You have to still be quick to react to the overheads, but it makes dealing with the random swipes way easier. Also, I think Lawbringer is actually very good, but he has a higher skill cap than most other heavies.
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Captain Oblivious posted:That reminds me, who other than Warden has a good zone attack for mixing into regular fights? I've had some success with the Zerker spin, but who else? Not 110% sure on everyone, but the Kensei spin zone has such long range that its almost perfectly safe if you're the right distance from your opponent. It also has hyperarmor. The Valk is interesting because it's a quick attack from one side to the other and you can cancel the second one.
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Internet Kraken posted:No, its the game's biggest flaw IMO The Lawbringer's emote spam makes it look like he's smacking dat rear end. It's almost as good as the Conqueror's pelvic thrusting.
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MadJackMcJack posted:It's almost as good as the Conqueror's pelvic thrusting.  The only reason I main the classAdded re: the conqueror's zoning attack: It is a massive stamina drain. Using it twice puts you on the very edge of your stamina bar. tbh I don't know how that compares honestly, but it's something to be careful of if you're clearing B in dominion using this attack. Ice Fist fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Loopoo posted:Dunno, man. I consider myself a pretty decent Orochi, and Lawmaker is one of the hardest opponents I can face. He has instant parry recovery times, meaning if I parry his attack and go in with a super fast light attack, he's able to block it. Literally nothing works against him if he's on top of his guard break game. All I can do is feint him and hope he falls for my sneaky poo poo. The parry is because of his range, Nobushi has the same advantage. His unblockable from parries never come out fast enough to present a real threat because of how easily they're parried in return. It's like you sent your opponent a telegram informing them of your attack so they can prepare themselves. This is a pretty good breakdown on his problems right now. https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveForHonor/comments/5u8550/just_some_ideas_on_the_lawbringers_current_state/
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Ice Fist posted::shh: The only reason I main the class drat straight! quote:Added re: the conqueror's zoning attack: It is a massive stamina drain. Using it twice puts you on the very edge of your stamina bar. tbh I don't know how that compares honestly, but it's something to be careful of if you're clearing B in dominion using this attack. Pretty much all of the zone attacks are massive stamina drains, the Conqueror's is only worse because it's easier to sustain. That said, it's brilliant if you are getting gang-banged and you pop revenge, since you can just swing like mad and keep the enemy at bay until revenge runs out.
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I'm not sure what I should be aiming to do as Valkyrie to deal good damage. None of her disabling combos actually deal damage or give you enough time to get hits in, so even when I use them it doesn't feel like I'm making progress unless it sends someone flying off a ledge. EDIT: WHY DOES THIS GAME HAVE SO MANY NARROW BRIDGE MAPS JESUS 
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Internet Kraken posted:I'm not sure what I should be aiming to do as Valkyrie to deal good damage. None of her disabling combos actually deal damage or give you enough time to get hits in, so even when I use them it doesn't feel like I'm making progress unless it sends someone flying off a ledge. There's nothing really much you can do. She under performs in every aspect of her hero and playstyle. You have to put in 5x more effort to get the same results as any other hero with her tools.
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Been playing and winning/having fun. Mostly warden because I like the look and it's simple. My key strategy is to find an opponent who is engaging my team and ruthlessly slamming my sword and or pommel into their blind side until dead. I also won a 1v1 by retreating into a wall of ai and then finishing off my opponent once they were worn down by the swarm. Life goal is to fling someone off a ledge before next week. For Honor? More like gently caress Honor. Am I right guys!? I actually appreciate that they designed a lot of tactically dirty poo poo alongside the Honorable dueling theme.
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Internet Kraken posted:I'm not sure what I should be aiming to do as Valkyrie to deal good damage. None of her disabling combos actually deal damage or give you enough time to get hits in, so even when I use them it doesn't feel like I'm making progress unless it sends someone flying off a ledge. Sweep the leg and drop a heavy attack or pouncing stab on them while they're on the ground, and chain that into the l,l,l or h,l,l combo, add another leg sweep if your stamina permits and use that to back off. Repeat.
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Internet Kraken posted:EDIT: WHY DOES THIS GAME HAVE SO MANY NARROW BRIDGE MAPS JESUS Roobanguy posted:lawbringer is king of knocking you off ledges.
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panda clue posted:The area attack always comes from the same direction. When in neutral vs a warden, just always be blocking to your left. You have to still be quick to react to the overheads, but it makes dealing with the random swipes way easier. The issue was that the combination between the light and the area sets up a hard 50/50. Basically what this one dude did was keep his guard in top the whole time. If I approached in side guard tried basically anything, I'd just eat the top light as it comes out faster than anything I had. When I switched to top guard, I'd eat the area attack. It was particularly aggravating as I was playing as Valkyrie. So even when I was on the ball and dodged my rear end off sneaking in light and dodge attacks whenever I could, I basically had to land 2-4 hits for every one of his just to keep up in damage.
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Dominion mode in a nutshell: "Here I am fighting faceless knaves for Queen and Country toodle pip good show, what's this? Some dastardly Lawbringer has slammed into my flank out of nowhere and has now deposited me into a pit twenty meters away. Outrageous!" Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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1500 posted:Anyone have an idea how I could practice counter guard breaks, other than the advanced tutorial? I have done the advanced tutorial but found it super easy but still can't do it in a real match. What I've done before is duel a level 2 bot and only allow myself to attack after countering a guardbreak, probably easier if you can get a friend to help you work on it. The advanced tutorial is good for practicing the timing but in real combat you can't just keep your finger on the button waiting for it. I need to practice it again myself, been playing too much story mode ugh Internet Kraken posted:I'm not sure what I should be aiming to do as Valkyrie to deal good damage. None of her disabling combos actually deal damage or give you enough time to get hits in, so even when I use them it doesn't feel like I'm making progress unless it sends someone flying off a ledge. Valkyrie will never do GOOD damage as she is right now, she's more about slowly whittling them down. Actually one of her best damage sources is the bleed attack you can get by doing a heavy attack after deflect, very tricky to do reliably though Or use her Javelin feat in Dominion/Elimination, thing does a fuckin truckload of damage  Can almost one-shot a berserker
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Indecisive posted:Valkyrie will never do GOOD damage as she is right now, she's more about slowly whittling them down. Actually one of her best damage sources is the bleed attack you can get by doing a heavy attack after deflect, very tricky to do reliably though I had a feeling this was the case. I can not for the life of me land those dodge counters reliably though, had the same problem with berserker. Can do it with overheads but left/right attacks either whiff with no counter or I get hit anyways. I really feel like I should be trying to dodge into attacks since she gets directional guard but doing that reliably is so hard. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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