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Captain Baal posted:This is such a loving stupid and obtuse mechanic because I still don't understand what you mean by using it for a link monster or how link monsters are even summoned So the way it works is, there's now two spots in the middle that are the only place you can summon things from the extra deck to -- that means fusion stuff, synchro stuff, xys stuff, and now LINK monsters. So once you have one synchro summon out you can't put another one out until it's dead because you only get one spot. But LINK MONSTERS have arrows on them and you can summon things from the extra deck to whatever spaces those arrows point to. Basically this is a way to make everyone buy a ton of new cards because you will need link monsters for any kind of archetype that's not normal special summoning (or pendulum summoning I guess).
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corn in the bible posted:Don't dead pendulum things go to the extra deck? So I guess it'd stop you recycling them so much The leak specified Fsion, Synchro, Xyz, and Link. So I think the implication is not 'It comes from the Extra Deck' but instead 'it starts in the Extra Deck'. So, Bahamut Shark, Ultimaya, and Goyo Guardian, Extra Monsters that let you cheat out other Extra monsters, are a no go without a Link Monster opening up spaces, but Pendulum summoning is still good to go.
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Feb 17, 2017 17:48
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dolla dolla billz yo
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If that is the case then fine, I can work with that. I still don't know what this means for like Superheavies or Cardians but we'll have to actually wait and see how this is applied I guess.
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Feb 17, 2017 17:51
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Something to note, the monster in the VRAINS poster looks to be more of a "secondary" Ace for Yusaku, like Junk Warrior 2. On top of having the same colors, they both start with 2300 atk and have an effect that gives ATK while promoting the new rules (Junk Warrior gained ATK based on low level monsters, perfect for synchro and Code Talker gains 500 for each monster "linked" to it), so Code of the Duelist will probably have a CSS Dragon or something.
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Feb 17, 2017 18:06
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The new rules hit the two biggest pieces of cancer in the game currently Zoodiac Ratpier, and Bahamut Shark
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Feb 17, 2017 18:08
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Something to note, the monster in the VRAINS poster looks to be more of a "secondary" Ace for Yusaku, like Junk Warrior 2. On top of having the same colors, they both start with 2300 atk and have an effect that gives ATK while promoting the new rules (Junk Warrior gained ATK based on low level monsters, perfect for synchro and Code Talker gains 500 for each monster "linked" to it), so Code of the Duelist will probably have a CSS Dragon or something. every duel ends with him summoning connected-eyes link dragon
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Feb 17, 2017 18:08
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Reiji is gonna be so bummed out when Yuya saves Reira's smile and he has to deal with his own deck no longer functioning.
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Feb 17, 2017 18:11
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People wondered why the hell Jack Atlas did nothing but summon Red Archfiend instead of spamming monsters like literally everybody else, but he's been playing the long game about this.
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Feb 17, 2017 18:26
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That was fast
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Feb 17, 2017 18:32
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:That was fast I'm dying here, oh my god
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Feb 17, 2017 18:35
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idgi
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Feb 17, 2017 18:37
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Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Pendulum are dead, I for one welcome our new Links overlords Yugi has like five cards in his extra deck, he's fine
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Feb 17, 2017 18:54
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Raserys posted:Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, and Pendulum are dead, I for one welcome our new Links overlords Yugi didn't even have an extra deck
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Feb 17, 2017 18:57
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There was Chimera, Gaia the Dragon Champion, Arkana Knight Joker, Dark Paladin, X number of filler monsters, I assume Joey was the one who had black skull dragon Wasn't the fusion of baby dragon and alligator sword somehow even worse than just alligator sword
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Feb 17, 2017 19:08
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No you see that was in the good old days when fusion monsters were created on the spot.
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Feb 17, 2017 19:09
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If you remember Z-One's backstory, you'll recall him being inspired by Yusei, but if you paid extra attention you'll see that the records of Yusei he had included some alternate history stuff, including an ace called: Cosmic Blazar Dragon 1 Tuner Synchro Monster + 2 or more non-Tuner Synchro Monsters Must be Synchro Summoned, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. During either player's turn, when your opponent would Summon a monster(s), or activates a card or effect: You can banish this card until the End Phase; negate the Summon or activation, and if you do, destroy that card. When your opponent's monster declares an attack: You can banish this card until the End Phase; negate the attack, then end the Battle Phase (this is a Quick Effect). It Came Out One Week Ago.
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Feb 17, 2017 19:17
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I remember Z-One and I also remember still being pissed he didn't just turn out to be Yusei from the future.
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Feb 17, 2017 19:18
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So wait, I'm confused on two things here. A) You can have six monsters on the field now, but only one can be from your extra deck. B) The Pendulum Zone now takes up 2 spell slots. Am I following this right?
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The Bee posted:So wait, I'm confused on two things here. C) You can have more than one monster from your extra deck but only if their monster zone aligns with the red arrows on a link-monster.
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Feb 17, 2017 19:56
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MiddleOne posted:C) You can have more than one monster from your extra deck but only if their monster zone aligns with the red arrows on a link-monster. D) Welcome To The Ojama Meta, Son
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Feb 17, 2017 19:59
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:D) Welcome To The Ojama Meta, Son Combine it with the field spell which allows you to move around your opponents link monsters for maximum frustration.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:01
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MiddleOne posted:C) You can have more than one monster from your extra deck but only if their monster zone aligns with the red arrows on a link-monster. So Decode Talker would let you summon two extra Extra Deck monsters, and your opponent summon one extra, but only if they line up perfectly with the red arrows? I'm going to guess if moved out of position or destroyed, the extras they allow follow suit.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:03
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The Bee posted:So Decode Talker would let you summon two extra Extra Deck monsters, and your opponent summon one extra, but only if they line up perfectly with the red arrows? I'm going to guess if moved out of position or destroyed, the extras they allow follow suit. Nope not according to what we know so far. Though there is already a new trap hole which destroys everything that isn't linked to a link-monster. Also, this is irrelevant in the case of Decode Talker but it's technically not about lining up, only adjacent monster zone's gets linked.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:07
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No matter what VRAINS is about it can't be worse than Hotel Season
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Feb 17, 2017 23:43
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https://twitter.com/pokelivecard/status/832585988773814273 Easy to understand
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 Last week's episode got 90% red/worst and 4% blue/best. Can't say i'm too shocked given how unfinished it felt and how much of it was flashbacks, but still, Arc V will (in the east at least) go down as the worst yugioh show yet.
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Feb 18, 2017 19:47
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:
hows that compare to kattobingu
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Feb 18, 2017 19:51
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:
Still a million times better than Zexal imo
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corn in the bible posted:hows that compare to kattobingu NicoNico ratings were implemented only a few years back, when ZeXal was already airing, so there's no data on that. But Arc V recently began to consistently beat literally black screens in terms of bad rating. From my understanding, Japanese audiences enjoyed zexal more than 5D's, with 5D's never quite reaching Gx's popularity. Arc-V is just straight up getting pure hatred from 90% of japanese internet nerds that watch.
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MiddleOne posted:Still a million times better than Zexal imo Thats isnt a high bar tho
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Feb 18, 2017 20:20
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maybe they should makea good tv show sometime and see how that works out
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They did. It's called Yu-Gi-Oh! Gx (And 5D's during its first 26 episodes and whenever Jack Atlas is on screen) And ZeXal but I know i'm the only one here that thinks that.
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Zexal had a strong finish and some good duels at the end, but the Don Thousand duel was stupid. At least it didn't completely slip and fall on it's rear end like Arc-V did.
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Feb 18, 2017 20:50
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I am placing a bet on VRAINS sucking for the first half and having a good final stretch.
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Im still seriously hoping its low stakes build fighters esque stuff. But considering its debuting with a new mechanic everyone is going to be link decks and my hopes of seeing a free for all mishmash of decks poking fun at the game past and present are dashed. I wanted to see GOAT control vs marshland beatdown, lightsworn chaos vs turbo synchro, r4 toolbox vs dragon rulers. Stuff like that. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Feb 18, 2017 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Im still seriously hoping its low stakes build fighters esque stuff. Would it though? I mean when the entire gimmick of links is that they restrict other forms of special summoning so I would hope that our non-protagonist characters would be all about using links to go into other monster-types. I feel like Konami at least recognized with ARC-V that pushing everything to the side in favour of XYZ was a mistake.
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I can easily see Vrains focusing on just Link summoning and not using the other summon types much, if at all.ArmyOfMidgets posted:And ZeXal but I know i'm the only one here that thinks that. Nah. I'm in there with you too. I liked Zexal.
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Bring back Jaden
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Dexie posted:I can easily see Vrains focusing on just Link summoning and not using the other summon types much, if at all. I'm split in the middle atm. Links are the new way to limit and use extra deck, so lots of people running Links with another extra deck type would work. OTOH Links also let you simply summon more Links, and while 5D's and ZeXal focused too much on their summon methods, that did let them really push expansions on them (like Yusei having a storyline dedicated to improving synchro via fusion and then accel synchro, and Rank-Up Magic being a key element in the early bits of ZeXal II) while Arc V got... Yuya's bigger bosses happening to be part pendulums that almost never actually went to the pendulum zone, so having a bigger focus on Links could also make the evolution of that summon method be an important story beat. I hope it's just kinda fluid. Mostly focus on Links but when there's something that needs pushing they can implement it organically so all styles are play are present and things don't get stale. Glad there's a few people that like it here. 
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