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Normally I'd say you wouldn't want that kind of idiot fixing it but they don't sound particularly stupid. I'd be a little concerned about corners getting cut since they're not making any money on the job. Don't know why they didn't take him up on the offer to buy it at list price unless their contact price was much higher or they couldn't break it with their other buyer, though.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:I was actually looking into doing something similar, until I did actual research on bunker construction and underground housing, and learned how much of a tremendous pain in the rear end everything is. The redit guy commenting covered most of the high points. It's easier/cheaper to dig a bigass Olympic pool sized hole in the ground, build a 4 car garage out of those insulated concrete forms, then bury it than it would be to waterproof and strengthen a container to do something similar. Plus you can trivially waterproof the forms by gluing them together then tarring and tyvecing the outside. Or you can just use a box truck... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Chowchilla_kidnapping
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# ? Feb 18, 2017 23:35 |
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Pretty much. If your time is free, materials are scavenged, and maintenance nightmares until entropy converts it all back to iron oxide don't bother you, they can be a great 'deal'. As a lovely throw-away shed thing to store crap in, they work great, because that's what they were designed to do. 2 parking spots per tenant seems insane. A huge part of the "housing crisis" is car-centric urban planning forcing the cost of construction up by requiring massive amounts of parking. A typical underground parking spot costs 30-60k, that's a huge savings to eliminate. In a lot of cities they're realizing strict parking minimums are working against both affordability and good urban planing and reducing or outright eliminating them, and there's a general consensus in urban planning today that parking minimums are a bad idea that have caused a lot of problems. Obviously that only works in places where you can live without a car, or just one car between a family. But it's actually a lot cheaper and more efficient to provide good transit and services within walking/bike distance than to force everyone to build massive parking structures and then massive highways to connect with shopping and workplaces with equally massive parking. It's the most land and resource intensive way to get around imaginable.
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Baronjutter posted:It's the most land and resource intensive way to get around imaginable.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:I was actually looking into doing something similar, until I did actual research on bunker construction and underground housing, and learned how much of a tremendous pain in the rear end everything is. The redit guy commenting covered most of the high points. It's easier/cheaper to dig a bigass Olympic pool sized hole in the ground, build a 4 car garage out of those insulated concrete forms, then bury it than it would be to waterproof and strengthen a container to do something similar. Plus you can trivially waterproof the forms by gluing them together then tarring and tyvecing the outside.
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# ? Feb 19, 2017 00:37 |
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Dylan16807 posted:Wow, that's a lot. Now why is very little of that needed with a basement? Is a basement inherently safer, or is this a case of requiring top-notch A+ safety measures when most cases of meeting code only need a B-? A basement has a whole house over top of it for venting, it's not totally sealed under dirt. It's also made out of something reasonable like concrete that's been poured in place and sealed/insulated rather than the cheapest steel possible.
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Baronjutter posted:2 parking spots per tenant seems insane. A huge part of the "housing crisis" is car-centric urban planning forcing the cost of construction up by requiring massive amounts of parking. A typical underground parking spot costs 30-60k, that's a huge savings to eliminate. In a lot of cities they're realizing strict parking minimums are working against both affordability and good urban planing and reducing or outright eliminating them, and there's a general consensus in urban planning today that parking minimums are a bad idea that have caused a lot of problems. Obviously that only works in places where you can live without a car, or just one car between a family. But it's actually a lot cheaper and more efficient to provide good transit and services within walking/bike distance than to force everyone to build massive parking structures and then massive highways to connect with shopping and workplaces with equally massive parking. It's the most land and resource intensive way to get around imaginable. I was going to write almost exactly this earlier today, but awful app ate my post. No offense to MeCHO or the yanks, but the attitude that everyone needs two cars + transit is for poors is a big factor in what's making this planet unliveable. I understand the distance issues in Canada and the states, but if you're living in a population centre that has density problems you should be putting resources towards mass transit and accessibility, not filling perfectly liveable space with loving freeways that are traffic jammed 24/7.
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Dillbag posted:I understand the distance issues in Canada and the states, but if you're living in a population centre that has density problems you should be putting resources towards mass transit and accessibility, not filling perfectly liveable space with loving freeways that are traffic jammed 24/7. BUT MY TAXES
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tangy yet delightful posted:Is literally a strap the pt to a spineboard and man handle them through the ladder hole with engine + ambulance crew you've got 6 people to do this. So if you live in the middle of nowhere I guess that could be an hour but anywhere civilized that's a 5-15 min response time. Guy says he's a firefighter at the end of the post so I would be slightly intrigued as to what he thinks is so complicated about this particular rescue he describes. Source: EMT with almost 7 years full-time and associated PT since then + rescue squad stuff. As a fellow EMT, I have to say that if you told me to climb down there I'd tell you to go gently caress yourself. Scene safety is the first priority and I'm not going down into that death trap for somebody that's, in all probability, already dead. That's a job for confined space rescue.
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Baronjutter posted:A basement has a whole house over top of it for venting, it's not totally sealed under dirt. It's also made out of something reasonable like concrete that's been poured in place and sealed/insulated rather than the cheapest steel possible. Basements usually have windows as well. And they are ventilated by the same forced air heat/AC system as the rest of the house. And you generally don't coat the walls and ceiling in combustible plastic crap like fake grass and fake fur. A finished basement that meets code for residency has some fairly strict regulations. Things are looser for an unfinished basement that is just used for storage, laundry, and a place to keep your furnace and water heater, but people aren't expected to spend much time down there. Basically if your mom lets you live in her unfinished basement she never loved you.
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Khizan posted:As a fellow EMT, I have to say that if you told me to climb down there I'd tell you to go gently caress yourself. Scene safety is the first priority and I'm not going down into that death trap for somebody that's, in all probability, already dead. That's a job for confined space rescue. FF/EMT-P high five brotha. Rule 1: we don't trade lives.
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I'm pretty sure it's been posted in the thread before but yeah, you don't gently caress around with regular rescue attempts in enclosed spaces. http://maritimeaccident.org/library2/the-case-of-the-rusty-assassin/ Edit: it was probably in the Osha thread
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MillennialVulcan posted:I'm pretty sure it's been posted in the thread before but yeah, you don't gently caress around with regular rescue attempts in enclosed spaces. As a dude who works on a ship (ferry captain), this is one of those ways to go that I would've never thought of before. I don't think the ballast holds are airtight-enclosed - they have those J-shaped breather tubes coming up to the deck - but on the other hand, it's not like they're inspected daily like the engine holds are, either.
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Just saw this in the BWM thread: http://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-1252827847.htm What an awful house.
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 00:44 |
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Remember too that rust actively alters the air in a space to dangerous. I was a Merchant Marine officer and enclosed space entry was legit no joke. Every year one guy drops from bad air in a ballast tank, and one to two of his friends try to rescue him and die as well. We would use forced ventilation for a day or so, then sniff the tank for adequate O2, then enter with more sensors while wearing SCBAs.
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 01:23 |
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Nice location for a
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 01:24 |
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peanut posted:Nice location for a poo poo's built like a Hitman level.
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 03:08 |
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All that loving ostentatious stuff and they still have a CRT in the bedroom?
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 03:46 |
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ohgodwhat posted:Just saw this in the BWM thread: http://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-1252827847.htm It looks like a Pier 1 exploded.
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Baronjutter posted:2 parking spots per tenant seems insane. A huge part of the "housing crisis" is car-centric urban planning forcing the cost of construction up by requiring massive amounts of parking. A typical underground parking spot costs 30-60k, that's a huge savings to eliminate. In a lot of cities they're realizing strict parking minimums are working against both affordability and good urban planing and reducing or outright eliminating them, and there's a general consensus in urban planning today that parking minimums are a bad idea that have caused a lot of problems. Obviously that only works in places where you can live without a car, or just one car between a family. But it's actually a lot cheaper and more efficient to provide good transit and services within walking/bike distance than to force everyone to build massive parking structures and then massive highways to connect with shopping and workplaces with equally massive parking. It's the most land and resource intensive way to get around imaginable. The problem is in a lot of areas you don't have the services needed to be able to get around the city like you would in Manhattan or Chicago, and as a result you need to have parking spaces provided. You could probably get away with one per tenant, but it becomes an issue if you're selling 2 bedroom condos and only provide space for one car. And good luck getting good transit services when outside of like 4 major American cities, public transit is considered for poors only. Dylan16807 posted:Wow, that's a lot. Now why is very little of that needed with a basement? Is a basement inherently safer, or is this a case of requiring top-notch A+ safety measures when most cases of meeting code only need a B-? Lots of easy/free venting via the hugeass house above you, mandatory 2 escapes from the place due to fire code from the mid 70s, and the fact that even if they're below ground, the air mixing that takes place is able to offset any issues. When you get into cases where your structure is 3+ meters below ground, you start running into issues where passive convection might not be enough to cycle the air properly, heavy gasses can settle without the ability to remove them, and tons of other things that a basement in a house wouldn't need to deal with. Especially if this is a bunker or structure designed to deal with NBC or civil unrest events, where you need to be able to lock it tight, and provide filtered air and water for a period of time. Methylethylaldehyde fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Feb 20, 2017 |
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have fun never cleaning your sink again
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 07:14 |
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Ahahaha at least the third most common reaction is a crying face.
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 07:16 |
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I've stayed at this beach condo.
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 07:17 |
Hot glue on smooth porcelain will last about a week, at least.
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Javid posted:Hot glue on smooth porcelain will last about a week, at There you go, friend. What is people's obsession with seashells?
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NancyPants posted:What is people's obsession with seashells?
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 11:10 |
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At least the various bacteria and mold in her bathroom will be happy she built them a grand motel.
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NancyPants posted:There you go, friend. She sells them at the seashore
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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:She sells them at the seashore if she grabs a hot glue gun stop her. I dont want my bathroom pinterest-ized
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 18:07 |
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Hitting the faucet and taps is a particular turn of madness.
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 23:29 |
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That sink has crabs now.
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# ? Feb 20, 2017 23:33 |
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You can't even set the soap in the soap tray anymore!
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crazypeltast52 posted:You can't even set the soap in the soap tray anymore! People who glue sea shells to their sinks use liquid hand soap anyway.
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# ? Feb 21, 2017 00:47 |
But do they rinse the soap off???
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NancyPants posted:There you go, friend. Check out this guy who doesn't know how to use the seashells in the bathroom properly.
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Platystemon posted:People who glue sea shells to their sinks use liquid hand soap anyway. You would think, but the before picture has a bar just sitting there?
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crazypeltast52 posted:You would think, but the before picture has a bar just sitting there? It’s been there since the Reagan administration.
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When I was a kid my grandma had soap molded in the form of seashells, I even remember realistic colors printed on them. Her sinks looked sort of like that, but less tacky and more functional.
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