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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Klungar posted:

Am I wrong or didn't Ollie come down firmly on gun control being a good thing? That's why he, a gun control supporter, and the other politician, someone strongly against gun control, had to come together and find a compromise. If Ollie wasn't pro-gun control, what was the point of that?

Ollie was bullied into taking that side. He never chose.

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TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Klungar posted:

Am I wrong or didn't Ollie come down firmly on gun control being a good thing? That's why he, a gun control supporter, and the other politician, someone strongly against gun control, had to come together and find a compromise. If Ollie wasn't pro-gun control, what was the point of that?

He came down on "something needs to be done" but never really expressed an actual view on the matter, especially when he was standing in the middle of Rene and Curtis' little debate, which would have been the ideal moment for him to just go "You know I agree with THIS SIDE".

TwoPair fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Feb 17, 2017

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

TwoPair posted:

Also as other people have mentioned, it is super awkward to have people mentioning problems with gun control suddenly out of the blue when Wild Dog's been running around all season long with guns blazing (and to a lesser extent, having Diggle run around for 4 seasons shooting at guys). side.

That was pretty much the realest part of the episode. Things are only issues when they become inconvenient.

America as gently caress, man.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Medullah posted:

This week was groan worthy. I have yet to see a single show try and take on gun control and handle it well and subtle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TsEAaC75s4

TwoPair posted:

Also while I know no TV producer in their right mind would let their characters unilaterally fall on one side of a hot button political issue and potentially alienate their viewer base on the other side, it is really awkward having Oliver Queen, the ultimate comic liberal, be the guy who won't pick a side.

This kind of political cowardice is part of why so many superhero adaptations feel soulless. Captain America should be telling nazi punks to gently caress off, Daredevil should be a story about class warfare, etc. But to keep mass appeal, these characters' views and ideals become watered down and contradictory, and it ends up making a bunch of them feel pretty generic.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

Lurdiak posted:


This kind of political cowardice is part of why so many superhero adaptations feel soulless. Captain America should be telling nazi punks to gently caress off, Daredevil should be a story about class warfare, etc. But to keep mass appeal, these characters' views and ideals become watered down and contradictory, and it ends up making a bunch of them feel pretty generic.

I remember how excited I was when I thought Dark Knight Rises was seriously going to be about class warfare and such, due to the previews and some of Catwoman's lines, but no, it was a pretty flat superhero movie. So much wasted potential.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


We need Paul Verhoven to direct the Justice League movie.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Lurdiak posted:

We need Paul Verhoven to direct the Justice League movie.

Come on Darkseid you got what you want! Giff deeze people ayer!

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
If anything Green Arrow at his roots is a socialist rebel and an adaptation of his stuff should reflect that on screen. I blame them getting rid of his goatee. That was the first step in moving him away from his political connections.

Threep
Apr 1, 2006

It's kind of a long story.
Iwan Rheon (Ramsay Bolton/Simon from Misfits) is playing Maximus in Inhumans

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Is he any good? Particularly at playing crazy?

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Yes and yes, it's a good fit

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

X-O posted:

Is he any good? Particularly at playing crazy?

lol

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
I don't much about Maximus but judging by who they cast I assume he is a vindictive, hateful person.

Also besides checking out Rheon on GoT I also recommend seeing him in Misfits where he plays a slightly unhinged Joy DIvision loving nerd who doesn't know how to interact with people.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

X-O posted:

Is he any good? Particularly at playing crazy?

His character in Game of Thrones is basically Maximus with an enormous cruel streak.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!


I've never seen him in anything so I'm not familiar with him.

Skwirl posted:

His character in Game of Thrones is basically Maximus with an enormous cruel streak.

Sounds good.

Madkal posted:

I don't much about Maximus but judging by who they cast I assume he is a vindictive, hateful person.

Also besides checking out Rheon on GoT I also recommend seeing him in Misfits where he plays a slightly unhinged Joy DIvision loving nerd who doesn't know how to interact with people.

He's Black Bolt's brother. He's extremely intelligent but also quite insane and always scheming. He's known as Maximus The Mad.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



It's a good thing his supervillain name doesn't follow Black Bolt's because "Max Bolt" just doesn't sound like a bad guy at all.

Threep
Apr 1, 2006

It's kind of a long story.

X-O posted:

I've never seen him in anything so I'm not familiar with him.
Youtube any Ramsay Bolton clip and you'll almost certainly be sold. I feel like Maximus takes his crazy in a different direction, but Ramsay basically spent a season torturing someone as an unnerving comedy routine, bouncing back and forth between jokes and malice. That whole "this is extremely funny but somehow only to him" feels very Maximus.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

X-O posted:

I've never seen him in anything so I'm not familiar with him.


Sounds good.


He's Black Bolt's brother. He's extremely intelligent but also quite insane and always scheming. He's known as Maximus The Mad.

Sounds like he is perfect for the role then.
Seriously check out the stuff he is in.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

X-O posted:

He's Black Bolt's brother. He's extremely intelligent but also quite insane and always scheming. He's known as Maximus The Mad.

This is literally his character from Game of Thrones

edit: Nevermind. I guess the spoiler is kinda there with video embeds. just look up Ramsay Bolton if you want to know.

notthegoatseguy
Sep 6, 2005

Does Maximus actually have a disorder of any sorts or is he just "Mad" as in like a mad scientist?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


His madness is like some kinda evil brain magic in some stories, it's not exactly something you can diagnose. But yeah, he's bugfuck. He was a bit more Loki-like in his earlier appearances, but his name kinda made writers write him increasingly insane.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

X-O posted:

Is he any good? Particularly at playing crazy?

My dude, watch Game of Thrones.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

My dude, watch Game of Thrones.

No thanks.

Synthwave Crusader
Feb 13, 2011

To no one's suprise, all the CW TV comic shows are renewed. Lucifer also got renewed for another season.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Scyantific posted:

To no one's suprise, all the CW TV comic shows are renewed. Lucifer also got renewed for another season.

The best one, iZombie, has not been renewed yet. The others happened a while back.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

X-O posted:

I've never seen him in anything so I'm not familiar with him.

Sorry if that came off as flippant, I just found the question really funny since he plays a completely crazy guy in GoT.



Not that I recommend watching GoT.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
Hey guys, there is this other TV show that he was in called Misfits. It was British. It has people with super powers. I would have thought that show would have been up everyone's alley here. Watch the first two seasons to see how good he is. Also watch the first two seasons because they are good.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Madkal posted:

Hey guys, there is this other TV show that he was in called Misfits. It was British. It has people with super powers. I would have thought that show would have been up everyone's alley here. Watch the first two seasons to see how good he is. Also watch the first two seasons because they are good.

He's not an unhinged and crazy in that though. He was one of the best members of that cast though, for sure. Barry was a good dude.

wyntyr
Mar 27, 2006

X-O posted:

No thanks.

My man.

Also, I know I say this a lot, but Agents of SHIELD is legit good. It's not the same as it used to be, and from what I understand, a lot of stuff is coming to a head / coming crashing down tonight. I'm 100% down.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

MacheteZombie posted:

He's not an unhinged and crazy in that though. He was one of the best members of that cast though, for sure. Barry was a good dude.

He kinda was though. Sure he became a better dude later on but don't forget he murdered a girl he was invisibly stalking

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Holy poo poo, this is like RDJ as Tony Stark levels of casting.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Medullah posted:

He kinda was though. Sure he became a better dude later on but don't forget he murdered a girl he was invisibly stalking

In that show murdering people was a team building exercise.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

Rhyno posted:

Holy poo poo, this is like RDJ as Tony Stark levels of casting.

Hopefully the show isn't the typical dumpster fire of writing and direction most superhero shows are.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
Plus Misfits featured one the most fearsome and terrifying superpowers in history...

..Lactokinesis.

Mock it at your peril.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

ToastyPotato posted:

Hopefully the show isn't the typical dumpster fire of writing and direction most superhero shows are.

LoL.


Oh wait, you're serious.


LoL.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

bobkatt013 posted:

In that show murdering people was a team building exercise.

"Really, you killed ANOTHER probation worker????"

Throwdown
Sep 4, 2003

Here you go, dummies.

X-O posted:

No thanks.

Misfits is pretty great as well (until season 3) and is based on kids getting super powers. I can't believe no one has posted the wiener gif.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Throwdown posted:

Misfits is pretty great as well (until season 3) and is based on kids getting super powers. I can't believe no one has posted the wiener gif.

It definitely went downhill around Season 3 but still was a must watch because Rudy was amazing.

jscolon2.0
Jul 9, 2001

With great payroll, comes great disappointment.

Scyantific posted:

To no one's suprise, all the CW TV comic shows are renewed. Lucifer also got renewed for another season.

You forgot Riverdale.

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Mover
Jun 30, 2008


Endless Mike posted:

It's a good thing his supervillain name doesn't follow Black Bolt's because "Max Bolt" just doesn't sound like a bad guy at all.

Well his full legal name is still Maximus Boltagon, at least.

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