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Dienes posted:Of course, thin people are less likely to be called out in the first place. I think pretty much everyone is equally likely to be called out when they spout bullshit.
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blarzgh posted:I think pretty much everyone is equally likely to be called out when they spout bullshit. I find your optimism inspiring.
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It's just fair that my pet group should get away with murder.
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Dienes posted:I find your optimism inspiring. See?!
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 The underwear is removable and he comes with swappable flaccid and erect penis parts. The other pictures are censored, but still pretty  modedit: link removed as the vendor site contains underage anime porn figures. cmon dude. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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MissEchelon posted:
Actually, that lady (who has that face the whole way it seems) is pretty sympathetic and I agree with her. It shouldn't be about shame, it should be about getting people where they have the best quality of life, and want that for themselves, and know how to do it. It's a society-wide issue that involves a lot of nuance. I would say that for the most part that the video is on the wrong question though, which is not "is fat healthy?" but to what extent individuals have an obligation to be healthy. I think they're right, it's different in Australia where there's a public health service, versus other nations where the social safety nets are laxer.
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Pick posted:"is fat healthy?" The answer is no.
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Creed Reunion Tour posted:The answer is no. Right, that's why that's a dumb question to be asking. The real question is, at what point is a person's being fat someone else's business, including the govt (and the same arguments go for smoking, drinking, or anything else).
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Pick posted:Right, that's why that's a dumb question to be asking. The real question is, at what point is a person's being fat someone else's business, including the govt (and the same arguments go for smoking, drinking, or anything else). When it's some beached whale taking up 1.5 airliner seats and they're right next to me is one situation.
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Just like everyone and everything else on the internet it becomes everyone's business when they splash out the incredibly embarrassing and hilarious details on their blogs and end up shared in places like the AUG thread
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Pick posted:Right, that's why that's a dumb question to be asking. The real question is, at what point is a person's being fat someone else's business, including the govt (and the same arguments go for smoking, drinking, or anything else). It very frequently is the government's business, and it's absolutely the business of hospitals and EMT workers who risk permanent and debilitating injuries lifting persons of size into beds and gurneys, and who are an increasingly taking up room and suffering from completely preventable disorders.
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if it were preventable they would prevent it. They are loving miserable every day, and don't kill themselves because it'd just be too much effort, it's a constant battle between self loathing, and the denigration of your peers. You're trapped in a prison of your own flesh, and you can't escape. When you ask for help people look at you and laugh, either saying you're just too lazy, you don't want it, or you don't deserve to be healthy. The only way you can beat back those feelings is with more food, or weed, or drugs, and you make the situation worse, in a self perpetuating loop that ends in an early miserable death.
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Heath posted:It very frequently is the government's business, and it's absolutely the business of hospitals and EMT workers who risk permanent and debilitating injuries lifting persons of size into beds and gurneys, and who are an increasingly taking up room and suffering from completely preventable disorders. I didn't say it wasn't the government's business, it certainly is to some extent, but determining to what extent is the same as for smokers and etc. There's a rational dimension to the dislike and an irrational one.
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Heath posted:The difference is that she's built her entire campaign on not being traditionally attractive. Her slogan and her entire ethos are built around it. It's another level of hypocritical for her to try and sell things by bucking stereotypes and then justifying those stereotypes by being a shallow bitch and lecturing people about standards while not living up to her own. And don't sign your posts. That's part of it, and also she really plays up all the lovely things that have happened to her in her life and uses that as part of the marketing of herself. And as I said, uses that to deflect criticism and have a ready made group of people made up of women who desperately want to feel good about themselves in any way (which is not a bad thing in of its self) that will attack anyone who dares say anything bad about Tess. Someone who was thinner would not have that ready made bludgeon to deflect criticism. And we see this a lot, people who use their disabilities to excuse their lovely behavior. I'm autistic, don't blame me for my 1tb of child porn! Solice Kirsk posted:Nah, they could just stop eating 20k calories a day. Yea, one of the really unfortunate aspects of Fat Acceptance is "I don't have to change YOU have the change everyone else!". Also weird conspiracy theories that doctors are covering up that their health problems are caused by other problems and claiming it their weight, because of some Zoolander like conspiracy to force everyone into a certain standard of beauty. twistedmentat has a new favorite as of 04:03 on Feb 22, 2017 |
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Turtlicious posted:if it were preventable they would prevent it. They are loving miserable every day, and don't kill themselves because it'd just be too much effort, it's a constant battle between self loathing, and the denigration of your peers. You're trapped in a prison of your own flesh, and you can't escape. When you ask for help people look at you and laugh, either saying you're just too lazy, you don't want it, or you don't deserve to be healthy. The only way you can beat back those feelings is with more food, or weed, or drugs, and you make the situation worse, in a self perpetuating loop that ends in an early miserable death. Nah, they could just stop eating 20k calories a day.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Nah, they could just stop eating 20k calories a day. If they could they would.
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Turtlicious posted:if it were preventable they would prevent it. They are loving miserable every day, and don't kill themselves because it'd just be too much effort, it's a constant battle between self loathing, and the denigration of your peers. You're trapped in a prison of your own flesh, and you can't escape. When you ask for help people look at you and laugh, either saying you're just too lazy, you don't want it, or you don't deserve to be healthy. The only way you can beat back those feelings is with more food, or weed, or drugs, and you make the situation worse, in a self perpetuating loop that ends in an early miserable death. Or they could try actually analysing how much of their behaviour is laziness and take the initiative to fix it and feel better. Fat people are remarkably good at hiding their own sloth and gluttony, especially from themselves. Source: I am a fat bastard due to my own behaviours and genetics, and would memory hole my worrying caloric consumption as soon as considering it had a chance of changing my behaviour. They are no more helpless than they choose to be and they should be encouraged if they try to change, but I have no sympathy for people who declare themselves healthy anymore. I am unhealthy. That's why I'm doing cardio every day and weights three times a week.
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Turtlicious posted:If they could they would. Would
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Turtlicious posted:If they could they would. Besides laziness, what is stopping them from eating 2000 calories and walking for a few minutes a couple times a day? Walking 1 or 2 miles total a day and eating a normal amount of food would have most giant fat people seeing and feeling results within a couple months.
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Somfin posted:Or they could try actually analysing how much of their behaviour is laziness and take the initiative to fix it and feel better. Fat people are remarkably good at hiding their own sloth and gluttony, especially from themselves. Source: I am a fat bastard due to my own behaviours and genetics, and would memory hole my worrying caloric consumption as soon as considering it had a chance of changing my behaviour. oldpainless posted:Would Solice Kirsk posted:Besides laziness, what is stopping them from eating 2000 calories and walking for a few minutes a couple times a day? Walking 1 or 2 miles total a day and eating a normal amount of food would have most giant fat people seeing and feeling results within a couple months. Depression, mental issues, the fat are mentally ill.
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Turtlicious posted:Depression, mental issues, the fat are mentally ill. And it's well documented that fit people are without flaw
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Tess Holliday steals poo poo and money, badgers and abuses people she collaborates with, and cry cry poor me so sad. She's had a lovely life and I support her idea that people should be happy with themselves regardless of common beauty standards, but that doesn't make her not a lousy person, regardless of her beanbag body. The fact that people excuse her behavior based on the fact that she's a Fatty Freedom Fighter IS galling; so it would be if someone got away with the same behavior because they're lithe and beautiful. Basically, just don't be a horrible person? Or confine the horrible things you say to the AUG thread... Anyways, AUG at any size!          This is everything.
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e: gently caress it this doesn't belong here.
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I was going to exercise and eat better to halt my slow descent into fatness but then forums poster Turtlicious came along and reminded me that my weight gain is 100% not my fault. Next time I down a can of whipped cream I will do it from your unassailable moral high ground, thanks and god bless.
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nerd plus rage posted:I was going to exercise and eat better to halt my slow descent into fatness but then forums poster Turtlicious came along and reminded me that my weight gain is 100% not my fault. Next time I down a can of whipped cream I will do it from your unassailable moral high ground, thanks and god bless. Instead go to a psychiatrist so that you aren't the kind of person who eats a can of whipped cream. There's a reason you're doing that, and you should get mental help.
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Turtlicious posted:Instead go to a psychiatrist so that you aren't the kind of person who eats a can of whipped cream. There's a reason you're doing that, and you should get mental help. They need mental help because whipped cream owns bones?!
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:They need mental help because whipped cream owns bones?! They need mental help because over eating is a sign of mental impairment lmao.
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Turtlicious posted:They need mental help because over eating is a sign of mental impairment lmao. gently caress you for removing agency from those people. "They can't help it, they have mental problems." My depression was at its worst last year while I was unemployed. I still managed to lose 50 pounds. Go eat a bucket of lard.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:gently caress you for removing agency from those people. "They can't help it, they have mental problems." My depression was at its worst last year while I was unemployed. I still managed to lose 50 pounds. Go eat a bucket of lard. Depression manifests in different ways, I'm glad you got help. e: Though if the idea of other people getting help makes you angry, I'd consider going back and getting your meds adjusted.
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Guy Goodbody posted:A third of American adults are clinically depressed? Or have some other mental issue that could be fixed with therapy or psychiatry. Depression was one example, but I shouldn't have used it because it hits too close to home for many users here.
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Yes, but that's because the Patriots keep winning the Super Bowl.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:gently caress you for removing agency from those people. "They can't help it, they have mental problems." My depression was at its worst last year while I was unemployed. I still managed to lose 50 pounds. Go eat a bucket of lard. People respond to depression differently. Treating weight as moral problem is like treating poverty like a moral problem, with the same flavors of concern trolling to boot. twistedmentat posted:That's part of it, and also she really plays up all the lovely things that have happened to her in her life and uses that as part of the marketing of herself. And as I said, uses that to deflect criticism and have a ready made group of people made up of women who desperately want to feel good about themselves in any way (which is not a bad thing in of its self) that will attack anyone who dares say anything bad about Tess. Thinner people will just deflect criticism as the product of jealousy. A size 2 model with Tess Holidays personality faults wouldn't even be a blip on the AUG threads radar, even if they were just as ugly on the inside. Conventionally attractive people get a pass for lovely behavior all the drat time.
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How are fat people depressed if they get to eat delicious food all the time? Cheesecake, tamales, pizza, icecream? Check and mate 
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"Well, we knew about the dog loving going on here in shitpit texas, land of a billion dumpster fires, but now it's just gotten out of hand" http://www.newschannel10.com/story/34551104/bestiality-problem-in-amarillo-could-be-controlled-with-new-ordinance I found out what Morally Inept has been busy doing
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Turtlicious posted:They need mental help because over eating is a sign of mental impairment lmao. Wow, no way, thanks for explaining that to me. 
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:Wow, no way, thanks for explaining that to me.
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I wonder if he is also mentally ill? Probably if he eats the banana. e: oh my god it is a rastanana
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