Animation Thread 2017: "These Movies don't cater to the 25-40 demographic"

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SatansBestBuddy: Sep 26, 2010; by FactsAreUseless

Hedrigall posted:

You think it's a funny idea to put udders on male cows, Hollywood, but you don't know what obsessions you're unwittingly birthing in the dark corners of the internet

you don't know

they knew

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

There's like a 100% chance this was unintentional, but it kind of feels like the main character of Barnyard was meant to be a transman. He has an udder and no horns, but uses "he/him" pronouns and has a male voice actor. Also, part of the story involves him learning to be more mature so he can be a good parent to his pregnant girlfriends child even though he isn't the calfs biological father.

Actual dialogue from the film:

Dad: I remember when I used to come out here with your sister.

Son: But I don't have a sister?

Dad: Oh, right, that was you.

they knew

# ? Feb 21, 2017 04:59

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# ? May 9, 2024 09:46

Detective No. 27: Jun 7, 2006

ImpAtom posted:

A quick reminder of a film I bet most people don't even remember exists:

I knew this movie existed. I never saw it but I remember it being marketed at the time. What I didn't know was that it had like three sequels.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 05:54

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Detective No. 27 posted:

I knew this movie existed. I never saw it but I remember it being marketed at the time. What I didn't know was that it had like three sequels.

What??????????

# ? Feb 21, 2017 05:55

Hedrigall: Mar 27, 2008; by vyelkin

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

There's like a 100% chance this was unintentional, but it kind of feels like the main character of Barnyard was meant to be a transman. He has an udder and no horns, but uses "he/him" pronouns and has a male voice actor. Also, part of the story involves him learning to be more mature so he can be a good parent to his pregnant girlfriends child even though he isn't the calfs biological father.

That's actually cool and I hope it's true

Makes a ton more sense than the "Jasmine is the first transgender Disney princess!" theory

# ? Feb 21, 2017 05:59

Detective No. 27: Jun 7, 2006

OK, now I feel like a liar because I can't find any evidence of them on the internet, but I swear I saw movie posters of at least two more movies on a streaming service. I thought I'd never heard of them because they were UK exclusive or something.

Edit: I am thinking of Arthur and the Invisibles.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 06:04

Drifter: Oct 22, 2000; Belated Bear Witness; Soiled Meat

Hedrigall posted:

That's actually cool and I hope it's true

Makes a ton more sense than the "Jasmine is the first transgender Disney princess!" theory

???

# ? Feb 21, 2017 06:17

Hedrigall: Mar 27, 2008; by vyelkin

Drifter posted:

???

No Drifter, I said transgender, not taurgender

Oh, here:
http://rambleonamazon.tumblr.com/post/75391607961/can-we-talk-about-dinseys-transgender-princess

Enjoy!

# ? Feb 21, 2017 06:25

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

That is a real loving stretch, unlike gay crab sex.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 06:28

Space Cadet Omoly: Jan 15, 2014; ~Groovy~

Hedrigall posted:

That's actually cool and I hope it's true

Makes a ton more sense than the "Jasmine is the first transgender Disney princess!" theory

Yeah, I can't prove it, but there's some evidence supporting it such as:

SatansBestBuddy posted:

Actual dialogue from the film:

Dad: I remember when I used to come out here with your sister.

Son: But I don't have a sister?

Dad: Oh, right, that was you.

Barnyard isn't a great movie, but the idea that an animation studio managed to secretly make a kids movie with a trans protagonist in a way that's both subtle and blatant is kind of inspiring.

Of course, I could just be reading too much into this and the actual explanation behind things is "Udders are funny!!!!"

# ? Feb 21, 2017 06:29

Hedrigall: Mar 27, 2008; by vyelkin

Udderly hilarious

# ? Feb 21, 2017 06:31

Drifter: Oct 22, 2000; Belated Bear Witness; Soiled Meat

Hedrigall posted:

No Drifter, I said transgender, not taurgender

Oh, here:
http://rambleonamazon.tumblr.com/post/75391607961/can-we-talk-about-dinseys-transgender-princess

Enjoy!

"But I swear, you post one fox..."

Also, lol that page. haha.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 06:33

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Yeah it sort of reminds me of when someone would show me the constellation Aries and explain to me that there's a whole ram in there.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 06:37

21 Muns: Dec 10, 2016; by FactsAreUseless

Argument kind of falls apart though given that all of the bulls in the movie have udders. :shrug:

# ? Feb 21, 2017 06:37

Shadow Hog: Feb 23, 2014; Avatar by Jon Davies

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# ? Feb 21, 2017 06:48

ThePlague-Daemon: Apr 16, 2008; ~Neck Angels~

Detective No. 27 posted:

Edit: I am thinking of Arthur and the Invisibles.

Fun fact, those are all Luc Besson movies, based on books also written by Luc Besson.

Also I just did some clicking around on Wikipedia and they seem like they might be a big deal in Europe. There's some kind of 4D IMAX attaction based on it in France, and here's a rollercoaster in Germany that was opened four years after the last movie was released, and the article even mentions some kind of "Kingdom of the Invisibles" area.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 06:48

ThermoPhysical: Dec 26, 2007

Oh my god the art in the thread is nice. haha

Except that cup thing. The Funko thing. That's awful.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 08:21

Pixeltendo: Mar 2, 2012

The Ayshkerbundy posted:

I like this because it looks more like one of those Nightmare Heffalumps from Winnie the pooh then a amalgamate bee movie creature.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 08:31

Avshalom: Feb 14, 2012; by Lowtax

gay crab sex

# ? Feb 21, 2017 11:48

Hedrigall: Mar 27, 2008; by vyelkin

Think of what you could do with ten limbs :heysexy:

# ? Feb 21, 2017 12:23

Shadow Hog: Feb 23, 2014; Avatar by Jon Davies

Pixeltendo posted:

I like this because it looks more like one of those Nightmare Heffalumps from Winnie the pooh then a amalgamate bee movie creature.

Bee Movie, But It Takes Place in the Hundred Acre Wood

# ? Feb 21, 2017 16:04

21 Muns: Dec 10, 2016; by FactsAreUseless

Shadow Hog posted:

Bee Movie, But It Takes Place in the Hundred Acre Wood

Reminder that Winnie The Pooh canonically dies in Bee Movie

# ? Feb 21, 2017 16:23

Shadow Hog: Feb 23, 2014; Avatar by Jon Davies

I've never actually seen Bee Movie, so I had to look that one up.

However, he clearly only had a little nausea for a few hours, but was otherwise fine.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 16:42

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Avshalom posted:

gay crab sex

*nods seriously*

# ? Feb 21, 2017 17:16

Snowglobe of Doom: Mar 30, 2012; sucks to be right

21 Muns posted:

Argument kind of falls apart though given that all of the bulls in the movie have udders.

Someone did an article about it an actually asked the director and his answer was that he thinks udders are funny and he didn't put any more thought into it:

quote:

The people at Nickelodeon Movies thought they'd made a nice little kids' cartoon. "Barnyard" was this fun, wacky story about farm animals who stand up on their hind legs and talk when the farmer isn't looking.

Little were they anticipating controversy. But now, the 'Barnyard' folks are faced with one relentless question that just won't go away: Why do the movie's boy cows have udders?

'It's funny. For something that I spent, probably, .002 seconds on, it's become quite the talk,' says Steve Oedekerk, Barnyard's writer-director-producer. 'There was never a real decision made. I get
a lot of images that pop into my head. I've always thought cows are kind of funny animals - and udders are funny.

'They're not there to define gender,' Oedekerk soberly clarifies. 'In the movie, the men are clearly men, the women are clearly women. There's no weird stuff that's going on. It just looks funny'.

https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-9100046.html

... but a whole bunch of people at the studio must have said something. I can't believe that Oedekerk made that decision on the fly and everyone else just accepted it without comment. On the other hand if there really was a 'controversy' like this article claims then I can see Oedekerk deflecting further questions by saying "We did it for the lulz, idk???" rather than explaining his actual decision process.

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Feb 21, 2017

# ? Feb 21, 2017 17:38

Drifter: Oct 22, 2000; Belated Bear Witness; Soiled Meat

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Someone did an article about it an actually asked the director and his answer was that he thinks udders are funny and he didn't put any more thought into it:

https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-9100046.html

... but a whole bunch of people at the studio must have said something. I can't believe that Oedekerk made that decision on the fly and everyone else just accepted it without comment. On the other hand if there really was a 'controversy' like this article claims then I can see Oedekerk deflecting further questions by saying "We did it for the lulz, idk???" rather than explaining his actual decision process.

I can guarantee that pretty much nobody outside of cow scientists and tumblr gives any two shits about cartoon funny cows having udders on the boy version. it's certainly not a sticking point. Ask any six year old kid to draw a cow and it'll include udders, since a cow without udders is basically just a fat horse.

I love Death of the Author and if someone can glean meaning from a work that better resonates with their life then fantastic, but that's Jasmine-is-a-transgender-person levels of Breitbart News tinfoillery.

Drifter fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Feb 21, 2017

# ? Feb 21, 2017 18:15

Das Boo: Jun 9, 2011; There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

I'm just reminded of 90's cartoons and how far people went without asking questions. Particularly Cow & Chicken.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 18:20

Mierenneuker: Apr 28, 2010; We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

I personally don't care about cow udders at all.

Cow tools on the other hand...

# ? Feb 21, 2017 18:21

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

The average city boy ain't even seen a cow :bahgawd:

# ? Feb 21, 2017 18:22

Red Bones: Aug 9, 2012; "I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

Das Boo posted:

I'm just reminded of 90's cartoons and how far people went without asking questions. Particularly Cow & Chicken.

How does Catdog poop

# ? Feb 21, 2017 18:29

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Red Bones posted:

How does Catdog poop

Comes out the cat and the dog eats it

# ? Feb 21, 2017 18:31

Timeless Appeal: May 28, 2006

Das Boo posted:

I'm just reminded of 90's cartoons and how far people went without asking questions. Particularly Cow & Chicken.

Honestly, Cow and Chicken's edgyness seems a bit quaint when Steven Universe just has openly gay characters.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 18:37

PenguinKnight: Apr 6, 2009

Das Boo posted:

I'm just reminded of 90's cartoons and how far people went without asking questions. Particularly Cow & Chicken.

dad was proud! he didn't care how! he's a good dad and that's all i need to know :colbert:

# ? Feb 21, 2017 18:44

Drifter: Oct 22, 2000; Belated Bear Witness; Soiled Meat

Timeless Appeal posted:

Honestly, Cow and Chicken's edgyness seems a bit quaint when Steven Universe just has openly gay characters.

The Gromble from Aaaaah! Real Monsters cartoon (from the 90's) was a transvestite, and that's even more of a fringe group than being gay.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 19:01

Das Boo: Jun 9, 2011; There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

I, for one, appreciate that we live in a world that would greenlight a show about cow and chicken siblings who live with their below-the-torso human parents and are antagonized by Satan.

# ? Feb 21, 2017 19:17