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# ? Feb 21, 2017 22:29 |
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Magna Kaser posted:In 2017 this is true, but when handwriting was how you had to get poo poo done simplified characters had a lot more appeal. These days it's not really better or worse and it's all about aesthetics, which is why you still see traditional characters all over the mainland and they have even had talks about bringing them back every now and again. It sorta boggles my mind at how Chinese does have a perfectly serviceable phonetic system by way of Zhuyin (aka Bopomofo) that could be used like Japanese kana, but I've only ever seen it used in elementary school classrooms and electronic inputs. Instead they skip straight to Pinyin which is okay I guess, but still a little odd to me imo.
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# ? Feb 21, 2017 22:33 |
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:My parents live in Barcelona, so I'm hoping to be there, too, but I'd be happy enough elsewhere in the country. I've lived and worked in Spain before and know that it's a lifestyle and place I enjoy (although hopefully I won't be stuck in the deeeeeeep countryside again, unless I'm actually doing arch work [not bloody likely in Spain].) Off topic but what was/is your focus in arch? Im finishing up my BA and Im always curious what people pick.
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# ? Feb 21, 2017 23:04 |
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Xelkelvos posted:It sorta boggles my mind at how Chinese does have a perfectly serviceable phonetic system by way of Zhuyin (aka Bopomofo) that could be used like Japanese kana, but I've only ever seen it used in elementary school classrooms and electronic inputs. Instead they skip straight to Pinyin which is okay I guess, but still a little odd to me imo. To be honest English has a perfectly good phonetic system which we also don't use even a little bit at all.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 00:33 |
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ladron posted:for real living and retiring in Barcelona has always been a dream of mine.. if your parents need a phd in multicultural education plz hmu... Our immigration lawyer is fantastic and only costs 120 Euro for the entire process. I'm very sure he could help you out; PM me if you want his info! Telsa Cola posted:Off topic but what was/is your focus in arch? Im finishing up my BA and Im always curious what people pick. I have an MSc in Osteoarchaeology with a focus on human remains, but can do animals as well (depending on the region.) Animal bone analysis is the only reason I ever make money. If you're based in the USA, I'd say get the hell out before your entire life is spent filling out BIA paperwork swearing to god the pig molar you find is a loving pig and not a people ARGH! *triggered* Glenn Quebec posted:Worst part of the year is coming up: I have to play make escort with my Hong Kong counterpart. Once or twice a year she comes to New York for some reason and I'm basically her bitch. I don't know how since we are equivalent to one another but it's just a given because we have to work with each other all the time. If you guys are the same, like, rank, can't you tell her to screw off? Nicely?
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 01:14 |
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Glenn Quebec posted:Worst part of the year is coming up: I have to play make escort with my Hong Kong counterpart. Once or twice a year she comes to New York for some reason and I'm basically her bitch. I don't know how since we are equivalent to one another but it's just a given because we have to work with each other all the time. You need to plunge and post about it.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 01:18 |
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Xelkelvos posted:It sorta boggles my mind at how Chinese does have a perfectly serviceable phonetic system by way of Zhuyin (aka Bopomofo) that could be used like Japanese kana, but I've only ever seen it used in elementary school classrooms and electronic inputs. Instead they skip straight to Pinyin which is okay I guess, but still a little odd to me imo. Zhuyin and Pinyin are basically the exact same thing outside of what glyphs are used. They cover pretty much the same range of sounds, have the same initials and finals, and do it almost in the same way. Pinyin is made up of letters, but really it's made up of a bunch of pre-made initials and finals (ie "zh-" "-uang") which match up to Zhuyin glyphs almost 1:1. Zhuyin is actually older than Pinyin but never really got popular or saw mass appeal in the Sun Yat-Sen era. It was designed around a lot of other stuff like Gwoyeu and Xinwenz (which had strong KMT and CCP backing respectively in the ROC era) and kinda fell away. It wasn't until the KMT went to Taiwan that it kind of resurfaced and they decided to use it as their pronunciation tool. In the mainland they famously hired Zhou Youguang to make a system which ended up being Pinyin, but Zhou wrote he didn't have to use latin characters as a base and they experimented with a lot of stuff and just landed there. One big thing you seem to be misinterpreting is that Zhuyin is a Chinese version Japanese kana, when it's more like a Chinese version of the IPA. It's only real use is pronunciation, and it was never designed to be used in the place of characters in any capacity. This is why you only see it in classrooms, input, and dictionaries in Taiwan--because that's it's only purpose. If Zhuyin could replace characters, then Pinyin could as well since you're really only switching out "ㄅ" for "b", etc... And there are people who say you could use one or the other but it's harder than it seems since there are so many homophones and tones are kinda just jacked on to both systems with markers that are almost an afterthought for most people and blah blah. There are some things that say people coming from European-language backgrounds learn Chinese better with Zhuyin though since you come in fresh which probably holds some water, but for native Chinese speakers there's not really that big a difference. I've actually read it's the weirdo Yale-Mandarin romanization that leads to the best pronunciation from English speakers, since it was designed specifically for English speakers to learn Mandarin, but forget that one.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 01:23 |
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:Our immigration lawyer is fantastic and only costs 120 Euro for the entire process. I'm very sure he could help you out; PM me if you want his info! That's what I've been trying to say. I feel like I have been telling her to gently caress off politely. "Hello Eustace, How are things in HK? In reference to XYZ could you please take me off of the e-mails? I know that its protocol to include each other on every step of the way to keep up regulations but I would rather be looped in later in the deal when things seem to be coalescing. Best, Glenn."
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 01:24 |
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Holy poo poo, you bad boy.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 01:27 |
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This thread should have a discord and that discord should have a markov bot based on a certain recent prolific poster.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 01:31 |
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Baronjutter posted:Holy poo poo, you bad boy. "Haha Glenn, You are being a bad boy! I think its safer to keep you on these e-mails in case someone has a question pertaining to U.S. Regulations.lol I appreciate you feeling comfortable with me though. Best Regards Eunice." Then I respond with "but thats when you loop me in, when someone has a question not way before." Then she doesn't respond and puts on a weekly call using HK time and if it actually has something pertinent ( one out of four) and I'm not on, I'm hosed.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 01:32 |
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:I have an MSc in Osteoarchaeology with a focus on human remains, but can do animals as well (depending on the region.) Animal bone analysis is the only reason I ever make money. If you're based in the USA, I'd say get the hell out before your entire life is spent filling out BIA paperwork swearing to god the pig molar you find is a loving pig and not a people ARGH! *triggered* Haha yeah I am based in the USA but Im studying to be a Mayanist with a focus on spacial use post-collapse and cave use. I have my foot in the door with several Parks departments due to my professor but due to the recent administration I'm looking at other options. Anyways thanks for satisfying my curiosity.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 01:49 |
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I love how hyper-specialized academia can be. Post-collapse Mayan cave use.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 01:51 |
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Telsa Cola posted:Haha yeah I am based in the USA but Im studying to be a Mayanist with a focus on spacial use post-collapse and cave use. I have my foot in the door with several Parks departments due to my professor but due to the recent administration I'm looking at other options. Anyways thanks for satisfying my curiosity. Oh, that's specialized enough that you should get tons of work! Sounds awesome! Glenn Quebec posted:That's what I've been trying to say. I feel like I have been telling her to gently caress off politely. I meant more in regards to her visit; give her a Lonely Planet and call her an Uber and say, "I'm going to visit someone in the hospital, so my phone will be off all day, have fun!"
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 01:59 |
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Baronjutter posted:I love how hyper-specialized academia can be. Post-collapse Mayan cave use. I regret not being interested in American archaeology until recently since it's probably the most vibrant field now. We know next to nothing about 95% of it, there's so much to do.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 02:24 |
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:Our immigration lawyer is fantastic and only costs 120 Euro for the entire process. I'm very sure he could help you out; PM me if you want his info! China find pig boner; eat or ride; ask the expert
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 02:56 |
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Grand Fromage posted:I regret not being interested in American archaeology until recently since it's probably the most vibrant field now. We know next to nothing about 95% of it, there's so much to do. Yeah I do field work in the Yucatan and there is so much to do that I feel pretty confident that I will be busy for the rest of my life. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Feb 22, 2017 |
# ? Feb 22, 2017 03:03 |
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Relin posted:is reused wooden chopsticks still a thing in china? bacteria love to get into the nooks and crannys of wooden/stone things (anything porous). there should be a movement to at least some form of plastic chopstick if they're going to be cheap and not have new wooden ones for every meal hakimashou posted:Do they still do the healthy cleaning of the saucer, bowl, spoon, cup, and chopsticks before every meal at restaurants with tea? Glenn Quebec posted:That's what I've been trying to say. I feel like I have been telling her to gently caress off politely.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 03:08 |
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hakimashou posted:Do they still do the healthy cleaning of the saucer, bowl, spoon, cup, and chopsticks before every meal at restaurants with tea? I think this is a southern thing. I still see it a lot in Shanghai through Guangdong, but don't really see it ever in Sichuan or anywhere north of Nanjing, really. Also lol if you trust that shrink wrapped stuff. It's probably somehow the worst.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 03:14 |
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Magna Kaser posted:I've actually read it's the weirdo Yale-Mandarin romanization that leads to the best pronunciation from English speakers, since it was designed specifically for English speakers to learn Mandarin, but forget that one. To an extent it wasn't even designed for actual learning, it was more so a US soldier could open his emergency phrasebook and read out "Wou meigworen, bu sheji" and hopefully be close enough to intelligible to not get shot.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 03:46 |
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Today I went for my weekly Go Karting fun and there was a full group (1 dozen) of Chinese in their late teens ahead of the group I got placed in, so we'd alternate. I got to sit and watch them race while waiting for my turn, there were as many spin outs as there were laps done. Eventually the guys working there remotely turned the karts to 50% power, and they still crashed all over the place. One of the poor workers was out there righting the karts the entire time. That story is just a coincidence though, I actually came to post this: I wanted to see if there were any good Kan Re Nao photos and that showed up as the #1 result in the videos tab, doesn't seem to anymore though. Edit: Please post your finest Kan Re Nao photos Hirethor fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Feb 22, 2017 |
# ? Feb 22, 2017 03:53 |
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Telsa Cola posted:Yeah I do field work in the Yucatan and there is so much to do that I feel pretty confident that I will be busy for the rest of my life. You should make a thread.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 03:53 |
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Baronjutter posted:You should make a thread. Agreed! For me, I'd rather eat actual poo poo before ever entering US borders again, let alone working there. Especially in CRM. gently caress CRM.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 04:03 |
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I will try to put together a Ask/Tell thread about Mayan archaeology and general archaeology this weekend. CRM pays bills I guess, I know a few people who work for Tribal Boards of Reservations and they seem pretty happy.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 04:15 |
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Haier posted:If I remember, in TCM tea is considered an anti-bacterial and disinfectant (and explains why every drat cleaning thing in China has green tea in it). Hot water + tea = As good as bleach. I also cleans all of your organs and fixes imbalances and it's a gift from Heaven, etc. Its like that story about Mao - he never brushed his teeth, instead rinsing his mouth with green tea every morning and chewing the leaves Fleta Mcgurn posted:For me, I'd rather eat actual poo poo yo if you want a poo poo-eating hookup i got you covered
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 04:24 |
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Telsa Cola posted:I will try to put together a Ask/Tell thread about Mayan archaeology and general archaeology this weekend. please link it here because that sounds cool as gently caress
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 04:25 |
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Magna Kaser posted:I think this is a southern thing. I still see it a lot in Shanghai through Guangdong, but don't really see it ever in Sichuan or anywhere north of Nanjing, really. Conversely I see it any time I'm out with Chinese people here in Sichuan.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 05:27 |
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oohhboy posted:LOL. I straight up told you guys I do exaggerate or change some details to varying degrees for dramatic effect. Stop the posts. No more posts.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 05:45 |
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I don't think I could just ditch her, excuse or otherwise. It's expected of me to play host. Let me set up the first real project I had to do with her. My predecessor left the firm on bad terms and so I had zero catch up time to get comfy in my role. First thing we had to do a loving video conference to explain our budget to the NY-HK Teams and it was 90% of me talking with her speaking up and I prepared the template for our material. Everyone was like "Wow you guys are a great team. What a great deck, good job." Lo and behold I become the go-to guy who knows how to interact with the HK team. Suddenly I'm seen as some sort of sinophile. I'm serious, people assume I have some sort of interest in Chinese culture or history. I just need to vent because when I bitch about it to my wife she tells me I'm being a dick.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 06:08 |
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Grand Fromage posted:Conversely I see it any time I'm out with Chinese people here in Sichuan. do u and magna ever get together in chengdu and figure out how you two live in the exact same city, but have exact opposite experiences ?
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 06:22 |
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seriously it's like Magna: I've never seen that before GF: i've seen it three times a week for the past year and a half
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 06:23 |
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The Great Autismo! posted:seriously it's like I've come to accept I live in a pocket dimension of China.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 06:37 |
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Glenn Quebec posted:I don't think I could just ditch her, excuse or otherwise. It's expected of me to play host. Oh, bugger. Well, it's a star in your crown that you haven't chucked her into a barrel like Donkey Kong, if that's any consolation...
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 06:46 |
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i always assumed it was the difference between working in education and working in IT ive done both and seen a looooot more poo poo during my time in the former
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 06:48 |
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Hirethor posted:Edit: Please post your finest Kan Re Nao photos here's a kan re nao simulator. click and drag your avatar onto the image below
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 07:32 |
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UltraRed posted:gently caress the haters. If they don't like it they can burn one of their goony calories flipping their scroll wheel down a few notches. I do enjoy your stories, but hope you're not too stressed out during your trip. Traveling usually makes me uncomfortable because I don't like to not know what's going on. This. I am making it more stressful sounding than I make it out to be. I have been enjoying the journey. When you are on holiday it is a close to a consequence free life you can as you have already "Spent" the money so if you get into trouble like getting stuck in the middle of nowhere you just spend your way out of it and if you are lucky you get to have a cool ride. You get to choose how lasting the relationships are with people you meet are. You get to mess around culturally. Try things you wouldn't back home. See awesome stuff. Appreciate he Pro and Cons. Flex your brain on new ideas and languages. Yes it can be stressful, but on when on holiday you can more often than not just flip it around to get a positive story out of it because it ended well. Go, go have a holiday. --- Whitey Magic Wizardy MY BIL is an English teacher. He came over here with a pretty clear purpose, work in HK for 2 years go home, get a real job when he returned home. Sister on the other hand got pressured into staying as Mom brought her over to "Visit" family before promptly leaving stranding her. Sure, she has her Husband, but it was an absolute dick thing to do. The BIL having a job which he landed within a week softened the blow though so it wasn't like she didn't have support. Mother tried the same shitck with me, offering to by me a ticket and asking me to go look for a job there. This was a couple months before she sent Sister over, but even then I knew it was a bad idea so I flat out turned it down. "You can go to Disneyland", "Teach English", "Computers" "There are jobs everywhere(you can do)", "visit relatives". This didn't stop her from suggesting it every time we met which was making her rather tiresome in this regard. While I was vindicated as Sister couldn't get any traction, I wasn't happy about it. I did use it as a reason not to go and it was a very strong one. I also didn't have much money at the time unlike now so that meant once I was in country I couldn't get out or spend my way out of trouble. Then Grandpa got sick and this time he wasn't going to make a comeback. Again she pressured me to go and I might have had she not mentioned staying for jobs thing again. So I asked for guarantees I wasn't going to get the same treatment as Sister did. She wouldn't and kept silent. We did Skype calls and I have been told he really though I was there with him. It was unfortunate that family politics got into the way of me visiting him, but I decided it was the best for everyone. Back to our dinner, being an English teacher with impressionable kids and a mischievous streak he would do really simple things or give explanations that the "Chinese can't do". He once snapped his finger in front of a student and the who class was mystified as this strange new thing. He tried to teach them but they just couldn't get it through to them. He let it carry on trying to teach them this as it was one of the best ways to teach any language, making the students use it no matter how bad the result might be. They would normally not be so expressive as conformity and memorisation was the normal lessons real world be damned, that said this mentality isn't as strong as the Mainland but do produce multiple suicides a year often in clusters based on this reason so I still has a has a long way to go. Eventually the students declared they couldn't do it because they were Asian so BIL mischievously told them is was white people magic and they brought it wholesale(This happens often). They did so because it gave them a way out and confirmed that Asians and the whitey are different. While this was somewhat a dick move he had succeeded in his goal for getting them to use English naturally. Another thing that keeps happening is that the they note that BIL's arm is hairy unlike Asians. They wanted an explanation. He told them that when people go to different places people "Adapt" leading to physical change. The student asked if he went to the same place would he grow hairy arms like the BIL had. Given that he wasn't going to explain evolution to him and that he wasn't really trying or be able to cause a cultural sea change he said sure "You will get hairy arms if you go". There are other things like his showing up in T-shirt and Shorts like I do even if he feels a little cold himself just to mess with the students as they come in wearing puff jackets in 17 - 22 degrees weather(Some do the weird thing of wearing the puffer jacket but wear shorts...). Again they are mystified by this and again he would use it to give a lesson , getting them to talk, to press him on the subject. He would eventually when he wanted to move on tell them it was whitey magic or natural powers of the white man. He doesn't care what possible lasting damage or benefits he does culturally to them as his goal is to teach English and to use the best methods to so. I completely appricate this in "White magic" will never get old. This is one of the things he tells no one but me, not even Sister as she wouldn't appreciate the joke and the method behind the madness even though she was raised in NZ as she has "Reverted to type", being more Hong Kong girl like as time goes on. I completely support him on this. It is too funny to pass up and I would have done the same. We vibrate on the same wavelength but just so that we are clear he isn't me but White. He is an awesome guy and I couldn't be more happier for Sister. there is more, but next time.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 07:33 |
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Electro-Boogie Jack posted:Stop the posts. No more posts. No. More posts. All the posts. Fuel this thread with the posts
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 07:34 |
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value-brand cereal posted:No. More posts. All the posts. Fuel this thread with the posts The concrete in the posts is already beginning to crack.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 07:41 |
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Haier posted:Real talk: I have been to people's houses where the wooden chopsticks had black mold growing on them. This caused me to start bringing a spoon and fork in my bag if I am going to someone's house for a meal and, if the chopsticks are disgusting, I feign ignorance about usage and use my fork. If I bring my own chopsticks then that would be seen as rude or strange, but being a foreigner and pretending to be unable to use them saves us all face. Nah, that's a very good idea. I had an India travelling veteran as colleague and that dude always carried a bunch of things, even here. Among them, fork, knife, spoon, and most important: toilet paper.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 07:49 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 00:09 |
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CHINA SEX EDUCATION - CHAOSHAN EDITION:
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