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Pan Dulce posted:My question is, in this distorted reality, when the hell did Daisy (and she totally not going to be called Daisy, she's Skye in this alternate reality) meet Ward? At what point did she say it was her biggest regret? I don't even know that it is. I mean, the whole regret and life with less pain thing is because he's got the actual people hooked up into the Framework. I don't know if he did go through the effort to do the same for people who aren't kidnapped.
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This show is a good show And that's all I say on the matter
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Maybe her only regret was not killing Ward when she had the chance.
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Feb 22, 2017 23:41
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I hope they go all out and just have EVERYONE who's ever appeared on the show come back for at least a cameo or something.
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OB_Juan posted:Maybe her only regret was not killing Ward when she had the chance. Her dream is killin Ward over and over again
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Feb 22, 2017 23:43
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I hope they go all out and just have EVERYONE who's ever appeared on the show come back for at least a cameo or something. So this the excuse they came up with to bring Deathlok back.
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Tripp, Deathlok, Hunter, Bobbi, Bill Paxton, Raina, Daisy's mom and dad, that lady with the red streaks in her hair, a brief cameo from Colbie Smulders. I want EVERYONE back, drat it! Except maybe Lincoln. RareAcumen posted:I don't even know that it is. I mean, the whole regret and life with less pain thing is because he's got the actual people hooked up into the Framework. I don't know if he did go through the effort to do the same for people who aren't kidnapped. Especially since the whole "fix your regrets" thing was just Radcliffe's human rationalization of what he was doing. Aida redesigned the whole thing on her own amoral logical ideas and her only goals seem to be to (a) keep the Framework safe, (b) keep the people in it docile, and (c) grow a heart by any means necessary. There's no reason to assume she cares one bit about Daisy's personal regrets since she's already reasoned out that live in the Framework without real pain or mortality is better than real life. She just wants to keep Daisy compliant. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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Oh Brett you son of a bitch https://twitter.com/IMBrettDalton/status/832413738040913921 https://twitter.com/IMBrettDalton/status/830584058740502528
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What's the over/under of seeing Jiaying, Raina or Cal again?
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double nine posted:What's the over/under of seeing Jiaying, Raina or Cal again? My pet theory/hope is that Daisy and Ward are part of a "Secret Avengers" inhuman resistance group that includes Raina, Lincoln, and at least one of her parents. Because that would REALLY gently caress with Daisy.
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STAC Goat posted:My pet theory/hope is that Daisy and Ward are part of a "Secret Avengers" inhuman resistance group that includes Raina, Lincoln, and at least one of her parents. Bonus points for Ward being the squid version, except actually Ward
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I don't know about this show. I want to like it, but there's been no movie cameos and it was boring three years ago... Clearly the person with Fitz is Mace. I don't remember seeing his Framework life. This also explains how and why Gemma is dead.
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OB_Juan posted:Maybe her only regret was not killing Ward when she had the chance. She shot him 4 times but his plot armor was very strong. Alexeythegreat posted:Bonus points for Ward being the squid version, except actually Ward Obviously the framework world is where HIVE succeeded and everything is awesome.
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Alexeythegreat posted:Bonus points for Ward being the squid version, except actually Ward Nah, he's human but he's still part of the resistance because he loves Daisy and is just that drat good a guy. He's basically Captain America. Because that will really make Daisy throw up in her mouth. And like, the Aida twisted rationalization is that Ward is the guy Daisy/Skye thought he was way back when she fell for him.
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Ensign_Ricky posted:Ok, totally calling this: Simmons pulls a Kill Bill and punches her way out of that grave because I'm going to go with the grave being the back door Simmons hacked into the framework.
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So B.J. Britt is on Pitch and UnReal, so he's probably not coming back. J. August Richards is on Notorious too and Luke Mitchell is in Blindspot. All these are regular roles, so I don't think they'd make a cameo. But... Nick Blood isn't doing poo poo and Adrianne Palicki is doing pre-production on a pilot so maybe they could come back! Here's hoping.
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What's Sam Jackson doing? I'm hoping he was only filming 2 or 3 movies during the month they shot this last part of the season, all in all that's a really light month for him, maybe he can come back too.
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STAC Goat posted:Nah, he's human but he's still part of the resistance because he loves Daisy and is just that drat good a guy. He's basically Captain America. If they've fixed up Mace's life so he has what he's always wanted/regretted not having then I could see him being a Cap-like resistance leader. Perhaps Rogers died during Winter Soldier or repelling the Chitauri in the Framework reality, so Mace gets to take his place or is just straight up The [red, white and blue clad] Patriot. Could Marvel TV get away with doing a Cap fake-out? Like, would Marvel Studios let them use Cap's costume and shield, or likenesses thereof, but obviously fill the suit with Mace rather than Rogers?
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He could theoretically be like USAgent or "The Captain" or something. Or, just The Patriot, but giving him the black Captain America outfit without any of the trademark Cap stuff would definitely be impactful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Agent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America#/media/File:Captain_America_350.jpg That would be pretty cool and theoretically could pass the TV vs Film test. But also isn't there a Hydra Captain America from recent comics? STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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Re-watching the episode for gifs and one small neat detail I noticed was that when Coultron is talking to Macebook, he sounds very robotic, but when he immediately afterwards speaks to Daisy, he sounds more natural and human.
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STAC Goat posted:But also isn't there a Hydra Captain America from recent comics? Yes, it's Captain America. HYDRA doesn't have their own knockoff version of him, it's just him.
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Pan Dulce posted:So B.J. Britt is on Pitch and UnReal, so he's probably not coming back. J. August Richards is on Notorious too and Luke Mitchell is in Blindspot. All these are regular roles, so I don't think they'd make a cameo. Pitch has finished shooting, and BJ Britt was only a regular for a single season on UnReal, so he's available. I don't think Notorious is filming now either, but Luke Mitchel is right out as Blindspot films year round. I imagine Amy Acker's available, so we could see the cellist again. Dichen Lachman's husband works on the show pretty regularly, but she's also a regular in Altered Carbon, which just started filming. I guess she's a tossup, depending on how big her role is and where they're filming the show. I believe Preacher is filming now, so I dunno about Ruth Negga. She might be pretty expensive these days too. In terms of randos, I reckon we'll see the return of Agent Burrows and Whitehall, mostly because of how much the cast / crew seems to enjoy working with the actors. I've no idea about anyone else.
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Irn-Bru posted:If they've fixed up Mace's life so he has what he's always wanted/regretted not having then I could see him being a Cap-like resistance leader. Perhaps Rogers died during Winter Soldier or repelling the Chitauri in the Framework reality, so Mace gets to take his place or is just straight up The [red, white and blue clad] Patriot. Makes sense that if Coulson never joins SHIELD that "Avengers" didn't happen the same way (maybe the Battle of NY never happened if "Thor" played out differently without him too) so HYDRA was able to finish their world takeover.
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I doubt the show will get into any of the big movie stuff. Again, this isn't a divergent timeline. None of that poo poo had to have happened. Its literally a fictional reality written from scratch by Aida. Captain America and Nick Fury and the Avengers and Asgard never had to exist in the Framework if Aida didn't want them to.
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Incidentally, did LMD May blow up the SHIELD base? I guess its kind of meaningless in the short term if the rest of the season is likely to play out in the Framework and the Superior's base, but I guess that means yet another SHIELD home base destroyed? They must have the worst home insurance rates.
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"Okay so when we get inside the framework we'll be dropped into our duplicates' bodies" "Roger" *wakes up in tub with Ward* "hahaha this is some poo poo, huh Simmons? ... Simmons?" *shot of grave* "*muffled* hello?"
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STAC Goat posted:Incidentally, did LMD May blow up the SHIELD base? I don't think she blew up the whole base, just the hangar.
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howe_sam posted:I don't think she blew up the whole base, just the hangar. It looked like she was sitting on multiple crates and barrels (just labeled 'explosive' but still) from the size of the fireball chasing the zephyr, and depending on just how big the base is, she could absolutely have levelled anywhere from 'some' to 'all' of it. Either way, the hanger and whatever was nearest the hangar are likely a smoldering hole in the ground.
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STAC Goat posted:I doubt the show will get into any of the big movie stuff. Again, this isn't a divergent timeline. None of that poo poo had to have happened. Its literally a fictional reality written from scratch by Aida. Captain America and Nick Fury and the Avengers and Asgard never had to exist in the Framework if Aida didn't want them to. You're absolutely right. That said, I think going the divergent timeline route makes for a stronger story. I'm betting that that's how it plays out. Like, Aida's never scanned Daisy (or so the show seems to have implied) and has never met Ward. If she was making things up at random then why would she bother putting them together? It's more likely she has some Darkhold-gifted ability to create a perfect mirror universe and then tweaked the timeline to better pacify her patients. It's possible I guess that Couldon was a secret Skye/Ward shipper and Aida's playing to that.
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PantsOptional posted:Yes, it's Captain America. HYDRA doesn't have their own knockoff version of him, it's just him. Hydra's knockoff Captain America is the Winter Soldier.
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Floppychop posted:Hydra's knockoff Captain America is the Winter Soldier. They're talking about in the comics. Winter Soldier was a Russian lackey in the comics. He had nothing to do with Hydra. Currently the actual Captain America is secretly working for Hydra to take over the country.
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With Aida's Darkhold knowledge, it might be that she's found a way to tap into one of the literally countless multiverse dimensions that mirrors ours exactly, just with the changes that she wanted.
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Floppychop posted:Hydra's knockoff Captain America is the Winter Soldier. No, Captain America is Hydra and Winter Soldier isn't Captain America anymore. Try to keep up.
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Murphys Law posted:John Garret Have you seen Training Day, he'd have to stop talking long enough for them to ask.
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Yakmouth posted:Like, Aida's never scanned Daisy (or so the show seems to have implied) and has never met Ward. RoboFitz plugged Daisy into a version of the Framework when she had that virtual sparring bout with Coulson but he didn't download her brain. They confirmed last episode that they still needed to capture and scan Daisy and Gemma.
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