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So i was just playing Mass Effect 1 and Garrus straight up canoes Saren after you kill him. Garrus is a cold motherfucker 
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Every time I see Fallout 4 on a steam-sale, I want to pull the trigger, but then remember it's gonna be at least 6 to 17 months until I have a machine that can even properly run that game again, and then I get all salty  I'm guessing it'll be more than 50% off by that time.
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Feb 22, 2017 16:02
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humble bundle has Civ III - V plus DLC for $15+
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Every time I see Fallout 4 on a steam-sale, I want to pull the trigger, but then remember it's gonna be at least 6 to 17 months until I have a machine that can even properly run that game again, and then I get all salty Throw it on your wishlist and wait for one of the steam holiday sales. Pretty much the only time I'll buy games now because that's usually the best discount. Plus my backlog is so bad now I gotta chill on buying more.
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Feb 22, 2017 18:21
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Syrian Lannister posted:humble bundle has Civ III - V plus DLC for $15+ At this point i think everyone who bought civ v got 3 and 4 plus dlc for free on steam civ v still owns now with the expacs
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Got MGS3 platinum today. That was the easiest one possible and only took ~15 hours gametime. The other MGS games... not so much.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Every time I see Fallout 4 on a steam-sale, I want to pull the trigger, but then remember it's gonna be at least 6 to 17 months until I have a machine that can even properly run that game again, and then I get all salty It's Fallout 4, though. It's another Bethesda Fallout. Pros of Fallout 4: Looks pretty Good FPS mechanics The end I'm just salty cause Fallout is kinda special to me and Bethesda took a hearty poo poo all over it with 3, 4, and how they treated New Vegas.
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Yea Fallout 4 was not great.
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Fallout 4 is just a video game based off of the hit History Channel series "American Pickers" but for some reason the people fromt he show refused to do voice work and they got the "Aliens!" guy and "Shows about guns" people to make it instead
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holocaust bloopers posted:Yea Fallout 4 was not great. it's weird because i consider morrowind to be their best game, and that was janky as all gently caress in a lot of ways and was more or less endearing because there was so much going on other than that i've never really been a massive fan of their work well, wolfenstein i guess
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Two Finger posted:it's weird because i consider morrowind to be their best game, and that was janky as all gently caress in a lot of ways and was more or less endearing because there was so much going on Bethesda only published that one, though. Which explains why it's good and fun. Whereas for Bethesda written Fallouts, you have writers foregoing their own story lore, making "sacrifices to player choice in a role playing game in favor of the story", and then making GBS threads on fans via twitter when asked why either of those choices were not only accepted, but instituted.
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Feb 23, 2017 02:22
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Capn Beeb posted:"sacrifices to player choice in a role playing game in favor of the story", what does that even mean
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Two Finger posted:what does that even mean people are pissed that your character in FO4 had a  back story and there was a plot
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:people are pissed that your character in FO4 had a .............what does that even mean haha loving gamers
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Bethesda games usually give you a character with a blank slate and let you do whatever with them, which appeals to a large group of players. It doesn't seem ridiculous for people to be disappointed about that going away.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:people are pissed that your character in FO4 had a There's a difference between putting in a premade player backstory in an RPG and removing decent story and quest writing to make room for that backstory. While speaking with GamesRadar, Fallout 4 game director Todd Howard explained why Bethesda is including voiced main characters — male and female — for the newest game in the series, which is a big change from the third installment. "We know we sacrificed some great storytelling [in Fallout 3 by allowing] the player to do whatever they want," he said. Player choice in an RPG? Nah gently caress that there's the gripping tale of HATE NEWSPAPERS
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Feb 23, 2017 02:45
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lol they sacrificed great storytelling since well, forever bethesda known for good stories
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I've thoroughly enjoyed every Bethesda game and they're definitely the best at making an interesting, fun world to explore. The quests/story in FNV were great and definitely way above anything Bethesda has done but the Mojave itself wasn't all that interesting to explore. I'd like a Elder Scrolls/Fallout game with the world created by Bethesda and the story written by Obsidian.
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Are they gonna let Obsidian do another Fallout? Cos that's the only Fallout I want.
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:Are they gonna let Obsidian do another KOTOR? Cos that's the only KOTOR I want.
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Right now I'm playing through Pillars of Eternity which is pretty fun. Next I'm either going to play BG1/2 or Divinity Original Sin. If I beat POE before going to Yakima anyway. I"m seriously spending almost the entirety of March and April in Yakima. Probably going to play Mass Effect Andromeda when I get back.
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Third World Reggin posted:lol they sacrificed great storytelling since well, forever Yeah Bethesda has trash writers and refuses to get better. It's hilarious how some people act like it's not fair to compare the game to Fallout: New Vegas and only compare Fallout 4 to Fallout 3.
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Mustang posted:I've thoroughly enjoyed every Bethesda game and they're definitely the best at making an interesting, fun world to explore. The quests/story in FNV were great and definitely way above anything Bethesda has done but the Mojave itself wasn't all that interesting to explore. New Vegas was written by Obsidian, which incidentally might explain why it's vastly better than anything 3 and 4 offered. Radical 90s Wizard posted:Are they gonna let Obsidian do another Fallout? Cos that's the only Fallout I want. Considering how badly Bethesda actively hosed them over during production and after launch, I'd be surprised if Obsidian would want to work with them again.
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Mustang posted:Right now I'm playing through Pillars of Eternity which is pretty fun. Next I'm either going to play BG1/2 or Divinity Original Sin. If I beat POE before going to Yakima anyway. I"m seriously spending almost the entirety of March and April in Yakima. Probably going to play Mass Effect Andromeda when I get back. Play Tyranny, roleplay as bronze age judge dredd
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Two Finger posted:roleplay judge dredd http://store.steampowered.com/app/503180/
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Two Finger posted:what does that even mean By itself, giving the player character a backstory isn't terrible. New Vegas gave its PC a history (even though you could completely ignore it) and that was a thoughtful, well-constructed game. FO4's issue is that your characters are boring as poo poo, and the dialog is terrible. The PCs are the most milquetoast people imaginable, and the dialog choices are so vague that you never really know what they're going to say. Will choosing "Chain of command?" ask an NPC about his military assignment, or will you berate the NPC for not giving you a promotion? Who knows. Fortunately, almost nothing you say matters; practically all conversations are railroaded to the same endpoint. In a departure from previous Fallout games, there are no skills. Remember how New Vegas let you develop your character, and made every skill have some utility? How skill ratings influenced dialog options, and opened up new ways to complete quests? That's all gone. Even the persuade skill (now a perk) is all but pointless. There's also no way to end the game peacefully, even when it would be totally logical. The endgame requires you to totally eradicate at least one of the major factions, even if you're so high-ranking in that faction that you should be able to just order a truce. But really, nothing you did in the game up to that point mattered at all. You get the same two ending cutscenes, dependent on who you backed. In a departure from previous games, you don't even get a halfassed narration describing the impact that the player character had on the world around them. It just felt really lazy. Bethesda can do better.
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Arc Light posted:There's also no way to end the game peacefully, even when it would be totally logical. The endgame requires you to totally eradicate at least one of the major factions, even if you're so high-ranking in that faction that you should be able to just order a truce. But really, nothing you did in the game up to that point mattered at all. You get the same two ending cutscenes, dependent on who you backed. In a departure from previous games, you don't even get a halfassed narration describing the impact that the player character had on the world around them. It just felt really lazy. Bethesda can do better. And in true Bethesda tradition, you become the head of whatever group inside of three quests.  Also yeah not having any solid narration after everything ends was seriously lovely. Basically the best thing to come out of Fallout 4 was this: 
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Yeah Fallout 4 was really disappointing. 3 and NV had me coming back for at least a year, 4 I stopped playing after two months. I can't even remember if I finished the main questline. The only really good thing about it was Valentine.
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FO4 is the textbook example of why I almost never buy new games based on this thread (or it's predecessors).
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I'm still kinda pumped for Wildlands because GI Joe GTA seems like a really fool proof concept. Can't wait for Ubi to show me that I'm the real fool
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I hope they fixed the vehicle controls because they were janky as gently caress.
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not caring here posted:I hope they fixed the vehicle controls because they were janky as gently caress. The janky vehicle controls and wonky driving and flying physics were honestly what led to the most fun for me and my friends while we played the closed beta.
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not caring here posted:I hope they fixed the vehicle controls because they were janky as gently caress. They didn't seem that bad to me after having just finished Far Cry 3
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Godholio posted:FO4 is the textbook example of why I almost never buy new games based on this thread (or it's predecessors). I'm really hoping ME: Andromeda doesn't let me down, it's the first game preorder I've made in a hell of a long time.
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YouTube reminded me this was a thing that exists and it is still great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD7SAFzXSSo
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Ubisoft ruins all good concepts they come across.
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Well, they must've done something with ghost recon because there's an open beta right now and it's nearly a 20 gig patch from the closed beta.
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wildlands beta trip report: the servers are down. installation was smooth enough i guess? unskippable intro vid of some nerd welcoming me to the game was bad tho
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:wildlands beta trip report: the servers are down. installation was smooth enough i guess? unskippable intro vid of some nerd welcoming me to the game was bad tho They had that video in the closed beta, too. Fuckers.
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