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New Concept Hole: Oct 10, 2012; 東方動的

Barry Bonds comes up one steal short of The Triple Three in 94 to miss going back-to-back with his 95 season, which would have been crazy considering there was a strike.

He averaged .304/40HR/31SB from 1990 to 2001 but that's not as impressive I'm sure.

New Concept Hole fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Feb 23, 2017

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# ? May 9, 2024 22:21

bewbies: Sep 23, 2003; Fun Shoe

Larry Walker did it during that crazy good 1997 season.

Larry Walker owned.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 15:44

Poque: Sep 11, 2003; =^-^=

I knew a triple three would be rare but I didn't think there'd only be 26 in MLB history

# ? Feb 23, 2017 15:55

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New Concept Hole posted:

Barry Bonds comes up one steal short of The Triple Three in 94 to miss going back-to-back with his 95 season, which would have been crazy considering there was a strike.

He averaged .304/40HR/31SB from 1990 to 2001 but that's not as impressive I'm sure.

Always love to discover new Bonds stats:
Triple three
1990 - achieved
1992 - achieved
1993 - 1 SB shy
1994 - 1 SB shy
1995 - .294 avg (missed by 3 hits)
1996 - achieved
1997 - .291 avg (missed by 5 hits)
1998 - 2 SB shy

That is an incredible run. 4 stolen bases and 8 hits shy of seven consecutive years.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 16:22

Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

This is why "but STEROIDS :arghfist:

" is such a terrible anti-Bonds HoF argument. Even if you ascribe every single thing he did post-98 to steroids, by that point he was already HoF-worthy with 3 MVPs and very nearly 100 WAR.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 16:28

seiferguy: Jun 9, 2005; FLAWED
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Julio Cruz posted:

This is why "but STEROIDS " is such a terrible anti-Bonds HoF argument. Even if you ascribe every single thing he did post-98 to steroids, by that point he was already HoF-worthy with 3 MVPs and very nearly 100 WAR.

It was never about his records being tainted, it was about him using them in the first place and violating "the character clause." That's the faux outrage sportswriters use.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 18:34

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

TheFlyingLlama posted:

not quite true

Ryan Braun did it in 2011 and 2012

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/braunry02.shtml

2011: .332/33HR/33SB
2012: .319/41HR/30SB

Wouldn't this have been right in the middle of his steroid scandal?

# ? Feb 23, 2017 18:36

Thom P. Tiers: May 29, 2008; Red Birds
Red Ass
Red Text

I'm surprised Beltran never did that.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 18:40

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

Sydin posted:

Wouldn't this have been right in the middle of his steroid scandal?

Yeah. 2012 was the peak of Ryan's huge sexy thighs.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 18:43

tadashi: Feb 20, 2006

seiferguy posted:

It was never about his records being tainted, it was about him using them in the first place and violating "the character clause." That's the faux outrage sportswriters use.

I look forward to sports writers keeping Tom Brady out of the NFL HoF for the first 5 years of his eligibility because he's was disciplined for cheating.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:21

seiferguy: Jun 9, 2005; FLAWED
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tadashi posted:

I look forward to sports writers keeping Tom Brady out of the NFL HoF for the first 5 years of his eligibility because he's was disciplined for cheating.

Unironically agreed.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:24

Traxis: Jul 2, 2006

TheFlyingLlama posted:

not quite true

Ryan Braun did it in 2011 and 2012

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/braunry02.shtml

2011: .332/33HR/33SB
2012: .319/41HR/30SB

Matt Kemp did it in 2011, too. He went .324/39HR/40SB but finished 2nd in MVP voting because ???

# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:35

tadashi: Feb 20, 2006

Traxis posted:

Matt Kemp did it in 2011, too. He went .324/39HR/40SB but finished 2nd in MVP voting because ???

Because it was a triple 3 year for Braun, too. He finished behind Kemp in bWAR by .4. Braun had a better OPS but Kemp played a more premium defensive position and had more HR, RBI, and SB. It was because the Brewers were finally good.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:47

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

N: https://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/834831654401110016

V: :getin:

# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:50

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

A fire alarm went off when the Tigers started their game in Lakeland so make of that what you will

# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:52

Paul Zuvella: Dec 7, 2011

Sydin posted:

N: https://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/834831654401110016

V:

Pitchers batting 8th is incredibly my poo poo.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:54

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Sydin posted:

N: https://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/834831654401110016

V:

I like this so very much.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 20:06

BigBallChunkyTime: Nov 25, 2011; Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.; Illegal Hen

Leadoff Schwarbomb? :circlefap:

# ? Feb 23, 2017 20:16

Comptroll The Forums: Apr 25, 2007; DON'T HURT MY FEE FEES!

FlamingLiberal posted:

A fire alarm went off when the Tigers started their game in Lakeland so make of that what you will

Bullpen dumpster in mid-season form

# ? Feb 23, 2017 20:20

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

Sydin posted:

N: https://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/834831654401110016

V:

https://twitter.com/BleacherNation/status/834850346711265280

# ? Feb 23, 2017 20:41

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

Comptroll The Forums posted:

Bullpen dumpster in mid-season form

Apparently Ausmus offered Tigers players to the FL Southern manager since he wants them to get the work in

# ? Feb 23, 2017 21:13

Peggotty: May 9, 2014

seiferguy posted:

It was never about his records being tainted, it was about him using them in the first place and violating "the character clause." That's the faux outrage sportswriters use.

No, it's about cheating. Like when you get caught cheating in a test it's completely irrelevant how good the rest of your test was. I don't agree with those people but they're argument isn't as ridiculous as you're portraying it.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 23:15

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

cebrail posted:

No, it's about cheating. Like when you get caught cheating in a test it's completely irrelevant how good the rest of your test was. I don't agree with those people but they're argument isn't as ridiculous as you're portraying it.

Well right, but they just said "steroids are cheating" without proving that steroids cause the specific things that he was good at that let him cheat. It would be like accusing someone of cheating on a test because they had a textbook on the desk, but the textbook is for a different subject so it's not actually relevant. You have to prove that steroids make you better at baseball in the specific ways they state they do.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 23:17

Peggotty: May 9, 2014

I'm pretty sure it's proven that steroids help you grow muscles and that muscles help you hit dingers?

# ? Feb 23, 2017 23:29

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

cebrail posted:

I'm pretty sure it's proven that steroids help you grow muscles and that muscles help you hit dingers?

But do they help you see a fast-moving ball and hit it precisely? Because just having big muscles doesn't mean you can hit a ball.

# ? Feb 23, 2017 23:31

will_colorado: Jun 30, 2007

Good loving luck.

quote:

The Padres are giving serious consideration going to a four-man piggyback rotation, similar to what the #Rockies tried in 2012. Having four regular 1-4 starters on a pitch limit of 75-80; regularly followed by what would be starters 5-8 filling in the middle innings piggyback role; with the remaining late innings/setup/closer

Christian Friedrich will never escape that goddawful idea

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# ? Feb 24, 2017 00:04

BigBallChunkyTime: Nov 25, 2011; Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.; Illegal Hen

cebrail posted:

I'm pretty sure it's proven that steroids help you grow muscles and that muscles help you hit dingers?

They do, but people around here don't like to admit it.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 00:38

bewbies: Sep 23, 2003; Fun Shoe

cis autodrag posted:

But do they help you see a fast-moving ball and hit it precisely? Because just having big muscles doesn't mean you can hit a ball.

hmm interesting

# ? Feb 24, 2017 01:16

Good Dog: Oct 16, 2008; Who threw this cat at me?; Clapping Larry

I don't understand this forum's reluctance to believe that steroids have any effect on a baseball players abilities. I understand people being unwilling to make claims as to how much a player might benefit from steroids, because that is impossible to quantify, but to claim that they don't have any benefits at all is insane. There is more to baseball than just socking dingers. Big muscular guys can suck at it and thin dudes can have power, sure. Speed on the basepaths and in the outfield could be improved. Being able to deal with the grind of playing 6+ games a week for 5 months and the fatigue it puts on your body.

Just because there isn't a study saying "steroids will give you a 5% increase on batted ball speed which will increase home runs by 10% and you'll pick up 5% more running speed which will lead to 20% more stolen bases" doesn't mean there isn't any benefits.

cis autodrag posted:

But do they help you see a fast-moving ball and hit it precisely? Because just having big muscles doesn't mean you can hit a ball.

Well yes, actually. There are steroids that can improve your vision. Maybe you can practice more and take more BP if you aren't tired because you recover faster, leading to better hand-eye coordination and swing path.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 01:45

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

cis autodrag posted:

But do they help you see a fast-moving ball and hit it precisely? Because just having big muscles doesn't mean you can hit a ball.

Balls hit hard are less likely to be converted into outs than balls hit softly. Steroids give players bigger muscles, which means that when they get hits they're hitting the ball harder than they would have without said bigger muscles, which means balls that might have been routine ground/line outs find holes, which is how steroids add to a players BA without giving them a "better eye".

Basically what I'm saying is that it's been firmly established that taking steroids makes you a better hitter.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 01:51

Mr. Meagles: Apr 30, 2004; Out here, everything hurts

Ichiro could hit homers in every single at bat if he wanted to, he just chooses not to. It's not his style.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 02:01

R.D. Mangles: Jan 10, 2004

# ? Feb 24, 2017 03:27

Petanque: Apr 14, 2008; Ca va bien aller

R.D. Mangles posted:

I assume this is Hendricks making a postmodern comment on everyone saying he looks like a hostage in every picture of him.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 03:34

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Not pictured a gun pointed at his head just out of frame.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 03:39

elentar: Aug 26, 2002; Every single year the Ivy League takes a break from fucking up the world through its various alumni to fuck up everyone's bracket instead.

Popete posted:

Not pictured a gun pointed at his head just out of frame.

If you don't buy this picture, we'll shoot this cub.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 03:55

RC and Moon Pie: May 5, 2011

Poque posted:

I knew a triple three would be rare but I didn't think there'd only be 26 in MLB history

Ron Gant had a triple three in 1990. Certainly there have to be more than that.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 04:15

Poque: Sep 11, 2003; =^-^=

RC and Moon Pie posted:

Ron Gant had a triple three in 1990. Certainly there have to be more than that.

code:

Season	Name			Team		HR	SB	BA
1922	Ken Williams		Browns		39	37	0.332
1957	Willie Mays		Giants		35	38	0.333
1963	Hank Aaron		Braves		44	31	0.319
1983	Dale Murphy		Braves		36	30	0.302
1988	Jose Canseco		Athletics	42	40	0.307
1990	Barry Bonds		Pirates		33	52	0.301
1990	Ron Gant		Braves		32	33	0.303
1992	Barry Bonds		Pirates		34	39	0.311
1996	Barry Bonds		Giants		42	40	0.308
1996	Dante Bichette		Rockies		31	31	0.313
1996	Ellis Burks		Rockies		40	32	0.344
1997	Larry Walker		Rockies		49	33	0.366
1997	Raul Mondesi		Dodgers		30	32	0.310
1998	Alex Rodriguez		Mariners	42	46	0.310
1999	Jeff Bagwell		Astros		42	30	0.304
2001	Vladimir Guerrero	Expos		34	37	0.307
2002	Alfonso Soriano		Yankees		39	41	0.300
2002	Vladimir Guerrero	Expos		39	40	0.336
2004	Bobby Abreu		Phillies	30	40	0.301
2007	David Wright		Mets		30	34	0.325
2008	Hanley Ramirez		Marlins		33	35	0.301
2011	Jacoby Ellsbury		Red Sox		32	39	0.321
2011	Matt Kemp		Dodgers		39	40	0.324
2011	Ryan Braun		Brewers		33	33	0.332
2012	Mike Trout		Angels		30	49	0.326
2012	Ryan Braun		Brewers		41	30	0.319

# ? Feb 24, 2017 04:26

bawfuls: Oct 28, 2009

Your Taint posted:

They do, but people around here don't like to admit it.

They do, to an unquantified degree.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 05:02

Explosionface: May 30, 2011; We can dance if we want to,
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and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.

R.D. Mangles posted:

I'm dying

# ? Feb 24, 2017 06:32

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Peggotty: May 9, 2014

cis autodrag posted:

But do they help you see a fast-moving ball and hit it precisely? Because just having big muscles doesn't mean you can hit a ball.

No, they help you hit the ball harder. Which is better. Even though they don't also help you hit it more precisely.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 10:39

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