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the 8 votes listed on the prior page were actually a mobius strip, representing his infinite appeal to the american people
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Feb 23, 2017 22:31
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the firmest, most well-rounded support
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Feb 23, 2017 22:31
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the current dem strategy: accelerationism until voters come crawling back on the decision that their milquetoast bullshit was actually not that bad
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Feb 23, 2017 22:32
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I would very much (when I'm not being selfish) like Ellison to win. (I think Buttigieg should set his sights higher. Honestly, Ellison too, but someone's gotta do the job, and it might as well be someone good.) I think he'd be great at the job, and I think it would be a great symbolic victory and a good first step in progressives taking over the coalition. (I don't want to kick centrists out, I want to put them to work, but I sure as hell don't want them in charge any more) I ain't giving up on poo poo if Perez wins, though. Hell, even if that Podesta Group guy who just dropped out somehow wins. Not because those are equally good outcomes (they're so not, though Perez isn't completely awful, i guess), but because gently caress giving up. It's defeatism that makes me upset, not some bizarre attachment to third-wayism or what the gently caress ever, and 'I'm gonna go start my own party, but with blackjack and hookers' is just a slightly shoutier defeatism, and this goddamn thread is full of it.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:32
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there is only one good dem and it's me
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Feb 23, 2017 22:33
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centrists can rule over the hellholes of florida and texas until all the olds die.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:33
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GalacticAcid posted:there is only one good dem and it's me Lord knows I'm not
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Feb 23, 2017 22:33
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docbeard posted:I would very much (when I'm not being selfish) like Ellison to win. (I think Buttigieg should set his sights higher. Honestly, Ellison too, but someone's gotta do the job, and it might as well be someone good.) I think he'd be great at the job, and I think it would be a great symbolic victory and a good first step in progressives taking over the coalition. (I don't want to kick centrists out, I want to put them to work, but I sure as hell don't want them in charge any more) if you don't go off and never vote dem again the impurities will contaminate your body fluids and make the frogs gay
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Feb 23, 2017 22:34
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*holds unlit lantern up to blind eyes* i search for the one good dem
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Feb 23, 2017 22:34
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*Republicans team up with fascist strongman to ratfuck the democrats and steal the election. morons: talking about anything but economic leftism is a distraction!
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Feb 23, 2017 22:34
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florida is like the only place i genuinely believe being a stalwart progressive would not work. being anti-pharma/bank in nj/ct is also pretty difficult.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:34
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JeffersonClay posted:*Republicans team up with fascist strongman to ratfuck the democrats and steal the election. good, you're learning anime was right posted:florida is like the only place i genuinely believe being a stalwart progressive would not work. being anti-pharma/bank in nj/ct is also pretty difficult. yea, the insurance industry basically owns CT. DE also benefits a lot from economic policies that gently caress over the rest of the country (see joe biden's legislative record on personal bankruptcy)
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Feb 23, 2017 22:37
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i propose retroactive removal of CT from the united states
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Feb 23, 2017 22:39
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logikv9 posted:i propose retroactive removal of CT from the united states only if we can kick out both dakotas while we're at it
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Feb 23, 2017 22:41
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GalacticAcid posted:good, you're learning Im learning that the small, idiotic subset of the left that you typify is a liability for us, that's certain.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:42
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JeffersonClay posted:Im learning that the small, idiotic subset of the left that you typify is a liability for us, that's certain. It's absolutely weird how people like you live in a universe where Hillary won.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:43
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lol okay buddyVenuz Patrol posted:only if we can kick out both dakotas while we're at it that way Justin Trudeau can bulldoze the water protectors...with a smile and a cool haircut
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Feb 23, 2017 22:44
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im not actually gonna give up if perez wins because i can't not care about this its me i am the one who cares
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Feb 23, 2017 22:46
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Everything matters and life is certain.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:48
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docbeard posted:Everything matters and life is certain. this sounds fake but okay
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Feb 23, 2017 22:48
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docbeard posted:Everything matters and life is certain. Fake news.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:49
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I am one with the Force and the Force is with me.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:49
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docbeard posted:Everything matters and life is certain. hosed up if true
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Feb 23, 2017 22:50
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/834879744453795840 maybe putin owns stock in private prisons
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Feb 23, 2017 22:51
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docbeard posted:Everything matters and life is certain. 
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Feb 23, 2017 22:51
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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/race-dnc-chair-tom-perez-pledges-woo-back-red-rural-n718536quote:Perez, who is seen as representing the party's establishment in his bid against Ellison, said it is the party's responsibility to make those people feel welcome. quote:Later Wednesday, Perez clarified on Twitter that he "misspoke" about the primary process being rigged. https://theintercept.com/2017/02/09/tom-perez-apologizes-for-telling-the-truth-showing-why-democrats-flaws-urgently-need-attention/ quote:An even more illustrative episode occurred late Wednesday. Perez was in Kansas campaigning for votes from county leaders and was asked about the need for the party to retain the support of the Sanders contingent. Perez unexpectedly blurted out a truth that party functionaries to this day steadfastly bury and deny even in the face of the mountain of evidence proving it. This is what Perez said: And here is why the progressives are going to be pissed as hell if the establishment boxes out Ellison.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:53
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docbeard posted:Everything matters and life is certain. mods? MODS???
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Feb 23, 2017 22:53
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GalacticAcid posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/834879744453795840 who can say why sessions does the things he does
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Feb 23, 2017 22:54
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there is only hate and spite
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Feb 23, 2017 22:55
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oh boy
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Feb 23, 2017 22:58
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"Thinking you can fundraise on Wall Street all day and then tell the working man you support them us like smoking crack all day and thinking you're a good parent.". -- some dude on NPR this morning.
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Feb 23, 2017 22:58
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > C-SPAM: Goblin Piss > Democrats: Thinking you can fundraise on Wall Street all day and then tell the working man you support them is like smoking crack all day and thinking you're a good parent I guess that wouldn't fit
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Feb 23, 2017 23:20
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docbeard posted:I would very much (when I'm not being selfish) like Ellison to win. (I think Buttigieg should set his sights higher. Honestly, Ellison too, but someone's gotta do the job, and it might as well be someone good.) I think he'd be great at the job, and I think it would be a great symbolic victory and a good first step in progressives taking over the coalition. (I don't want to kick centrists out, I want to put them to work, but I sure as hell don't want them in charge any more) The next couple years are gonna have a lot of defeats that are gonna sting more than Perez beating out Ellison, should that come to pass. When one of those defeats happens, you gotta use it to motivate yourself to fight harder, not as an excuse to pack it in and go home.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:27
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Azathoth posted:This is essentially what I came here to say. Ditto.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:32
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Business Gorillas posted:you can look at it that way. you can also look at obama seizing the progressive movement in '08, depressing the gently caress out of them to continue the status quo to the point they quit politics until a literal self-described socialist reinvigorated them. 08 was the same drat thing - the progressive movement accomplished jack poo poo in the years leading up to it, and suddenly mobilized when a charismatic figure started saying things that they thought they agreed with... ...as long as they didn't listen too closely, anyway. the progressive movement had no one to blame but themselves for being suckered by Obama Agean90 posted:my only hope is that after the first rounds dudes who vote for perez get torn a new one by their constituency and flip to supported who ever makes it to round two there's as many rounds as it takes, and no one automatically gets kicked out. once everyone sees where the vote numbers end up after the first round, the backroom dealing really gets started as the leaders start wooing the people who obviously can't win. then the second round happens. if there's still no winner, everyone retreats to the backrooms and starts wheeling and dealing to grab the supporters of the obvious losers and peel supporters off the main leaders. repeat until someone gets enough votes to win. Serf posted:even if the position is nothing more than symbolic, we haven't gotten a single win. even a symbolic win would be something there already was a symbolic win. Schumer made Bernie the head of outreach, a new leadership position created just for him. it doesn't have any more power than the DNC chair does, but if you care more about symbolic wins than actual wins...
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Feb 23, 2017 23:40
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Azathoth posted:This is essentially what I came here to say. on the contrary, progressives packing it in when they don't get their way will be exactly what will happen again
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Feb 23, 2017 23:43
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 you know how bernie would have won?if his supporters took the time and effort to build a real political movement from OWS to adequately prepare for a 2016 run instead of haphazardly throwing something together at the last second
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Feb 23, 2017 23:53
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Gringostar posted:on the contrary, progressives packing it in when they don't get their way will be exactly what will happen strange that a voting bloc would rescind their vote when they don't get the things they want over and over
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Feb 23, 2017 23:56
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Karl Barks posted:strange that a voting bloc would rescind their vote when they don't get the things they want over and over thinking like this is why the left will never, ever, have something like the tea party since they still vote in the general after they lose in the primary until the left does the same we're all hosed
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