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Just Chamber posted:Normal, but I'd like to try some recommended, fun builds. Most builds aren't going to get to the point where they're stand-out fun until you've beat all 3 difficulties and farmed maps or merc lake for a while.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:34
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Yeah, take a look at all those videos on the last page. None of that poo poo you can do just after beating Normal (except for the patched-out-of-existance perma-stun build).
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Feb 23, 2017 23:40
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panda clue posted:With Legacy BoR, Facebreaker, Aegis, Meginord, Rainbowstride, and Anvil, you're already almost there with an actually good build! Just MTX the rings, and wear a Legacy Kaoms for style points Who says I'll actually be playing the game? I just need to get to merc and stand in the Sarn Encampment so people can check out my huge wang.
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The Broletariat posted:Who says I'll actually be playing the game? I just need to get to merc and stand in the Sarn Encampment so people can check out my huge wang. You don't even need to install the game for that; people will admire your huge wang if you just go into the goon discord and pretend you know everything. It's a no-brainer.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:56
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McFrugal posted:I've heard of people triggering the bleed via leap slam. I never thought of counterattacks contributing as well, that's a great idea. Counterattacks are really underappreciated, especially on gladiator. As utilities, not damage sources. Curse, blind, power charge, life gain on hit all work out pretty nicely. 20% lacerate is also a decent option for bleed and curse application if you want an active skill and have an axe or sword.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:58
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Awesome! posted:are you planning on actually getting to maps on it or do you just want something that is fun to level Just fun to level, i'm not going to bother with maps etc until the new league starts.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:59
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i like 2h melee leveling a lot personally. sunder into eq. warchief totem for extra boss dps. ghostflame herald of ash for pretty explosions
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Feb 24, 2017 00:01
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Awesome! posted:i like 2h melee leveling a lot personally. sunder into eq. warchief totem for extra boss dps. ghostflame herald of ash for pretty explosions Thanks  , sounds good and I do like some pretty explosions, i'll give this a shot on my next run
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Feb 24, 2017 00:17
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You left IRC before I could respond, but Stacker_Flameblast has been invited to the guild.
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Feb 24, 2017 00:20
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TheRat posted:You left IRC before I could respond, but Stacker_Flameblast has been invited to the guild. Was using the web client and it timed out. Thanks! Edit: for any other dummies like me apparently there's an invite bot in the discord channel now, so you don't have to pester people. Vulpes fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Feb 24, 2017 00:24
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panda clue posted:You don't even need to install the game for that; people will admire your huge wang if you just go into the goon discord and pretend you know everything. It's a no-brainer. 
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Feb 24, 2017 00:26
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lol the worst part about this post is that it missed page 420
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Feb 24, 2017 00:29
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With conversion nerfed, I assume Vortex is no longer the best ignite vector. I haven't tried ignite before, but what's the next best? Explosive Arrow? Flameblast?
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Feb 24, 2017 01:01
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Mince Pieface posted:With conversion nerfed, I assume Vortex is no longer the best ignite vector. I haven't tried ignite before, but what's the next best? Explosive Arrow? Flameblast? Hrimburn will still work.
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Feb 24, 2017 01:06
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Hrimburn and Three Dragons still work. And you can probably still get total conversion with Pyre + Avatar of Fire. Those skills are good. Detonate Dead is also good for big ignites. Vaal RF is probably the best, one shotting anything that can be ignited and doesn't have HP threshold based invulnerability phases.
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Feb 24, 2017 01:16
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Guys I just had a thought. We're all thinking about radius vs area in a full circle. Skills like ground slam use a radius but only a fraction of the circle. On these skills increasing total area should be far more effective than just increasing radius. Am I missing something?
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Feb 24, 2017 01:43
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I thought about that too, but we don't know yet.
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Feb 24, 2017 01:45
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Katasi posted:Guys I just had a thought. We're all thinking about radius vs area in a full circle. Skills like ground slam use a radius but only a fraction of the circle. On these skills increasing total area should be far more effective than just increasing radius. Am I missing something? I had this thought as well. We'll have to wait and see, but I doubt it will work in the 'beneficial' way. They will probably add an 'area effectiveness' mod or something.
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Feb 24, 2017 02:12
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Katasi posted:Guys I just had a thought. We're all thinking about radius vs area in a full circle. Skills like ground slam use a radius but only a fraction of the circle. On these skills increasing total area should be far more effective than just increasing radius. Am I missing something? Nah. Assuming a 90 degree slice of a circle, the area is (pi * r^2)/4. Take two skills, one that is shaped like Ground Slam and one that is shaped like Vortex, both with base radius 10: Vortex area with base AoE: 314, radius = 10 Vortex area with double AoE: 628, radius = 14.14 Ground Slam area with base AoE: 78.5, radius = 10 Ground Slam area with double AoE: 157, radius = 14.14
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Feb 24, 2017 02:17
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Shockingly, doubling the area of a quarter of a circle gets you the exact same thing as taking quarter of a circle with twice the area.
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Feb 24, 2017 02:19
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I guess there's no telling for sure until full patch notes, but will wither CWC chaos firestorm still be crazy powerful?
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Feb 24, 2017 02:27
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zxqv8 posted:I guess there's no telling for sure until full patch notes, but will wither CWC chaos firestorm still be crazy powerful? Yes, but did you actually play this build in maps? It's a cool build for burning down Shaper very fast but the rampup time of the damage, the delay between starting Wither and spells casting, and the delay between Firestorm casting and actually hitting the thing you want it to hit means it's pretty awful for actually clearing maps. I found CWC Bladefall with The Scourge to be way better, but in the end I'm still not a fan of CWC because of the delay between starting the channel and spells actually coming out (Animate Weapon is obviously different because the weapons keep killing things even when you're not casting).
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Feb 24, 2017 02:32
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zxqv8 posted:I guess there's no telling for sure until full patch notes, but will wither CWC chaos firestorm still be crazy powerful? They're not touching double dipping this patch. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Feb 24, 2017 02:33
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I've played the cwc style, though not that, so it doesn't bother me. I just wasn't sure what was getting the hammer and happily this won't be one. If it can kill shaper, I'll make it do
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Feb 24, 2017 02:34
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2.6 is mostly the carrot part of the original 3.0 plans. The stick is coming this summer when everyone's busy gushing over new content.
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zxqv8 posted:I guess there's no telling for sure until full patch notes, but will wither CWC chaos firestorm still be crazy powerful? It should be stronger with legacy mantle and consuming darks.
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Feb 24, 2017 03:00
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Kild posted:It should be stronger with legacy mantle and consuming darks. Legacy Mantle is exactly the same except on a different base-type.
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Feb 24, 2017 03:12
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dis astranagant posted:They're not touching double dipping this patch. Enjoy it while it lasts. Speaking of this, what are the most busted double dippiest builds out there?
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Feb 24, 2017 03:22
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Poison Blade Vortex as one of any number of styles, Berserker, Occultist, Pathfinder, Assassin. Converted Vortex ignites, CoC or self cast. CWC Chaos Firestorm. United in Dream summoner, SRS or Animate Weapon.
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Feb 24, 2017 03:26
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panda clue posted:you mean like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-Fs9sHvA-E Is this build still do able?
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Maddot_66 posted:Is this build still do able? I don't think anything related to it has changed significantly. Go hog wild.
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J posted:Speaking of this, what are the most busted double dippiest builds out there? Chaos conversion firestorm and Chayula sword builds. There are 2 ways to scale DoTs, duration and damage. Because Duration actually stacks well with Poison, while reapplying Ignite doesn't increase the damage, you want ways to abuse poison the most. Therefore, you want a skill that scales the overall damage dealt with duration as well as a damage source that double dips (area, minion, totem, trap, projectile, mine). You also don't want a skill that caps out as you spam them (all totem skills, Blade Vortex, SRS, Bleeds, etc). This leaves the following: Dominating Blow Animate Weapon Blink Arrow Mirror Arrow Firestorm Icestorm Technically speaking, all of these are equally effective at scaling double dipping. However, for all practical purposes Chaos conversion daggers and Chayula sword are the most effective weapons because they give free poison. This means Blink/Mirror Arrow are out, as well as Icestorm. So what I'm saying is I'm waiting for the guy who makes a Necromancer using DW United in Dream + The Scourge with Dominating Blow - Added Chaos Damage - Void Manipulation - Minion Damage - Increased Duration - Melee Splash with source of free poison somewhere on their gear and a Wither totem.
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Animate is probably going to even better with splash buffs and the one handed reworks. edit - when did they change the time that the daily switches over?
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Bugsy posted:Animate is probably going to even better with splash buffs and the one handed reworks. It's always the same, it just 'changes' when daylight savings flips back and forth.
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Feb 24, 2017 04:13
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panda clue posted:It's always the same, it just 'changes' when daylight savings flips back and forth. It would have helped if it didnt forget to type deal in there.
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Feb 24, 2017 04:20
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panda clue posted:Legacy Mantle is exactly the same except on a different base-type. that's some bullshit.
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Feb 24, 2017 04:52
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Kild posted:that's some bullshit. It loses base es and gains the spell damage implicit.
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Ultima66 posted:Hrimburn will still work. I suppose you could also fit in a cold-to-fire gem. Avatar of Fire is a bad idea, because it will kill the ground effect degen.
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zxqv8 posted:I guess there's no telling for sure until full patch notes, but will wither CWC chaos firestorm still be crazy powerful? probably even more powerful, as you're gonna have access to high roll consuming darks and infernal mantles and i cant help but think that cast when channel support gem will get a nerf at some point, it has silly amount of damage and utility. then again, there is a certain clunkiness to the mechanic, as there is a lag between you committing to a cast and the damage coming down
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