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Barry Bonds comes up one steal short of The Triple Three in 94 to miss going back-to-back with his 95 season, which would have been crazy considering there was a strike. He averaged .304/40HR/31SB from 1990 to 2001 but that's not as impressive I'm sure. New Concept Hole fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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Larry Walker did it during that crazy good 1997 season. Larry Walker owned.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 15:44 |
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I knew a triple three would be rare but I didn't think there'd only be 26 in MLB history
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New Concept Hole posted:Barry Bonds comes up one steal short of The Triple Three in 94 to miss going back-to-back with his 95 season, which would have been crazy considering there was a strike. Always love to discover new Bonds stats: Triple three 1990 - achieved 1992 - achieved 1993 - 1 SB shy 1994 - 1 SB shy 1995 - .294 avg (missed by 3 hits) 1996 - achieved 1997 - .291 avg (missed by 5 hits) 1998 - 2 SB shy That is an incredible run. 4 stolen bases and 8 hits shy of seven consecutive years.
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This is why "but STEROIDS " is such a terrible anti-Bonds HoF argument. Even if you ascribe every single thing he did post-98 to steroids, by that point he was already HoF-worthy with 3 MVPs and very nearly 100 WAR.
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Julio Cruz posted:This is why "but STEROIDS " is such a terrible anti-Bonds HoF argument. Even if you ascribe every single thing he did post-98 to steroids, by that point he was already HoF-worthy with 3 MVPs and very nearly 100 WAR. It was never about his records being tainted, it was about him using them in the first place and violating "the character clause." That's the faux outrage sportswriters use.
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TheFlyingLlama posted:not quite true Wouldn't this have been right in the middle of his steroid scandal?
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I'm surprised Beltran never did that.
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Sydin posted:Wouldn't this have been right in the middle of his steroid scandal? Yeah. 2012 was the peak of Ryan's huge sexy thighs.
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seiferguy posted:It was never about his records being tainted, it was about him using them in the first place and violating "the character clause." That's the faux outrage sportswriters use. I look forward to sports writers keeping Tom Brady out of the NFL HoF for the first 5 years of his eligibility because he's was disciplined for cheating.
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tadashi posted:I look forward to sports writers keeping Tom Brady out of the NFL HoF for the first 5 years of his eligibility because he's was disciplined for cheating. Unironically agreed.
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TheFlyingLlama posted:not quite true Matt Kemp did it in 2011, too. He went .324/39HR/40SB but finished 2nd in MVP voting because ???
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Traxis posted:Matt Kemp did it in 2011, too. He went .324/39HR/40SB but finished 2nd in MVP voting because ??? Because it was a triple 3 year for Braun, too. He finished behind Kemp in bWAR by .4. Braun had a better OPS but Kemp played a more premium defensive position and had more HR, RBI, and SB. It was because the Brewers were finally good.
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N: https://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/834831654401110016 V:
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:50 |
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A fire alarm went off when the Tigers started their game in Lakeland so make of that what you will
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Pitchers batting 8th is incredibly my poo poo.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 19:54 |
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I like this so very much.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 20:06 |
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Leadoff Schwarbomb?
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FlamingLiberal posted:A fire alarm went off when the Tigers started their game in Lakeland so make of that what you will Bullpen dumpster in mid-season form
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https://twitter.com/BleacherNation/status/834850346711265280
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Comptroll The Forums posted:Bullpen dumpster in mid-season form
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seiferguy posted:It was never about his records being tainted, it was about him using them in the first place and violating "the character clause." That's the faux outrage sportswriters use. No, it's about cheating. Like when you get caught cheating in a test it's completely irrelevant how good the rest of your test was. I don't agree with those people but they're argument isn't as ridiculous as you're portraying it.
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cebrail posted:No, it's about cheating. Like when you get caught cheating in a test it's completely irrelevant how good the rest of your test was. I don't agree with those people but they're argument isn't as ridiculous as you're portraying it. Well right, but they just said "steroids are cheating" without proving that steroids cause the specific things that he was good at that let him cheat. It would be like accusing someone of cheating on a test because they had a textbook on the desk, but the textbook is for a different subject so it's not actually relevant. You have to prove that steroids make you better at baseball in the specific ways they state they do.
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I'm pretty sure it's proven that steroids help you grow muscles and that muscles help you hit dingers?
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cebrail posted:I'm pretty sure it's proven that steroids help you grow muscles and that muscles help you hit dingers? But do they help you see a fast-moving ball and hit it precisely? Because just having big muscles doesn't mean you can hit a ball.
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Good loving luck. quote:The Padres are giving serious consideration going to a four-man piggyback rotation, similar to what the #Rockies tried in 2012. Having four regular 1-4 starters on a pitch limit of 75-80; regularly followed by what would be starters 5-8 filling in the middle innings piggyback role; with the remaining late innings/setup/closer Christian Friedrich will never escape that goddawful idea will_colorado fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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cebrail posted:I'm pretty sure it's proven that steroids help you grow muscles and that muscles help you hit dingers? They do, but people around here don't like to admit it.
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cis autodrag posted:But do they help you see a fast-moving ball and hit it precisely? Because just having big muscles doesn't mean you can hit a ball. hmm interesting
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I don't understand this forum's reluctance to believe that steroids have any effect on a baseball players abilities. I understand people being unwilling to make claims as to how much a player might benefit from steroids, because that is impossible to quantify, but to claim that they don't have any benefits at all is insane. There is more to baseball than just socking dingers. Big muscular guys can suck at it and thin dudes can have power, sure. Speed on the basepaths and in the outfield could be improved. Being able to deal with the grind of playing 6+ games a week for 5 months and the fatigue it puts on your body. Just because there isn't a study saying "steroids will give you a 5% increase on batted ball speed which will increase home runs by 10% and you'll pick up 5% more running speed which will lead to 20% more stolen bases" doesn't mean there isn't any benefits. cis autodrag posted:But do they help you see a fast-moving ball and hit it precisely? Because just having big muscles doesn't mean you can hit a ball. Well yes, actually. There are steroids that can improve your vision. Maybe you can practice more and take more BP if you aren't tired because you recover faster, leading to better hand-eye coordination and swing path.
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cis autodrag posted:But do they help you see a fast-moving ball and hit it precisely? Because just having big muscles doesn't mean you can hit a ball. Balls hit hard are less likely to be converted into outs than balls hit softly. Steroids give players bigger muscles, which means that when they get hits they're hitting the ball harder than they would have without said bigger muscles, which means balls that might have been routine ground/line outs find holes, which is how steroids add to a players BA without giving them a "better eye". Basically what I'm saying is that it's been firmly established that taking steroids makes you a better hitter.
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Ichiro could hit homers in every single at bat if he wanted to, he just chooses not to. It's not his style.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 03:27 |
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I assume this is Hendricks making a postmodern comment on everyone saying he looks like a hostage in every picture of him.
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Not pictured a gun pointed at his head just out of frame.
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Popete posted:Not pictured a gun pointed at his head just out of frame. If you don't buy this picture, we'll shoot this cub.
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Poque posted:I knew a triple three would be rare but I didn't think there'd only be 26 in MLB history Ron Gant had a triple three in 1990. Certainly there have to be more than that.
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RC and Moon Pie posted:Ron Gant had a triple three in 1990. Certainly there have to be more than that. code:
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Your Taint posted:They do, but people around here don't like to admit it.
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I'm dying
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cis autodrag posted:But do they help you see a fast-moving ball and hit it precisely? Because just having big muscles doesn't mean you can hit a ball. No, they help you hit the ball harder. Which is better. Even though they don't also help you hit it more precisely.
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