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Larryb posted:Yeah, it's kind of easier to tell if you watch some of the old black & white cartoons as he has a longer tail there. I also briefly misremembered Mickey as having no tail, but a quick Google Image Search provided ample amounts of official drawings serving as evidence to the contrary.
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Shadow Hog posted:I'm now realizing that Goofy doesn't really have a tail in most media, does he? I'm not sure if Goofy ever had a tail to be honest, even back in the early days.
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Larryb posted:I'm not sure if Goofy ever had a tail to be honest, even back in the early days. 
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Butt Detective posted:I liked An Extremely Goofy Movie as a kid (never saw the first one until about 5 years ago), but it's been a loooooong time since I last saw it - I kinda want to watch it again to see how truly bad it was. The only things I really remember are the disco dancing scene and that beatnik lady. I watched it recently for the first time and while not close to as good as the first one, AEGM is still solid fun. It's not remarkable but I had a good time with it.
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Having just watched it this morning, like, 90% of An Extremely Goofy Movie's appeal lies in the chagrined nostalgia you feel for having lived through that specific time period. Exponentially so if you were of an age with Max. I miss back when everything was X-TREME TO THE MAX, BROS!!! But, y'know, not really?
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Yeah I enjoyed it! Definitely inferior to the first one, but it was fun. Goofy's romance plot really made the movie for me. I'm glad that side of the story was in there because there's only so much "generic American college movie" I can take. Hahaha, are your colleges really like that? With fraternities and Greek letters and everything? It seems like such a Hollywood fantasyland. Oh, America, you're my favourite fictional country 
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Feb 23, 2017 22:32
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Hedrigall posted:Yeah I enjoyed it! Definitely inferior to the first one, but it was fun. Goofy's romance plot really made the movie for me. I'm glad that side of the story was in there because there's only so much "generic American college movie" I can take. Hahaha, are your colleges really like that? With fraternities and Greek letters and everything? It seems like such a Hollywood fantasyland. Oh, America, you're my favourite fictional country They are! I'm from the UK, but I went to uni in America, and a lot of the time it felt like being in a movie. It was such a weird feeling.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:07
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Are they hell? Depends on what school you go to, how big greek life is, and what frats are there. Social fraternities or sororities can be either horrible or fantastic but theyre all very pricey. Business or academic ones are cheaper and rarely have any pressure or hazing. My frat was great and I got elected keeper of secrets so I know our secret rituals and signs as well as got to keep our reliquary. Frats are weird.
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Feb 23, 2017 23:15
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I went to an art school and while we didn't have frats/sororities, the animation students hated the DFV students hated the fashion students and back 'round again. I know the animation group was hated for being too boisterous and familiar. I was delighted to take a fashion course as an animation student and obliterate those cold-rear end fashion kids. (I work in fashion.  )
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Unmature posted:Hedrigall, have you seen Back to School? Nooope, what's that?
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Das Boo posted:I went to an art school and while we didn't have frats/sororities, the animation students hated the DFV students hated the fashion students and back 'round again. I know the animation group was hated for being too boisterous and familiar. I was delighted to take a fashion course as an animation student and obliterate those cold-rear end fashion kids. DFV?
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Barudak posted:Depends on what school you go to, how big greek life is, and what frats are there. Social fraternities or sororities can be either horrible or fantastic but theyre all very pricey. Business or academic ones are cheaper and rarely have any pressure or hazing. Absolutely, I went to LSU and their Greeks are big on campus. Also it's a huuuuge football school.
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The_Doctor posted:Absolutely, I went to LSU and their Greeks are big on campus. Also it's a huuuuge football school. We crushed their chapter, and actually all Lousiana chapters, of my frat despite being at a way smaller school. Loved tailgating their football though, in America if your colege does football it does football. Conversely to tie into your filmic experiences with frats I attended a school in the US where on the first day we were sorted into houses and we had house points with the winner having an end of year feast. Harry Potter came out/became a phenomenon in the us about a year after I started there and not a loving soul believed me when I would tell them my school did all that stuff.
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Motherfucker there's a Zootopia showbag at my city's Agricultural Show this weekend (I think that's the same as state fairs for you Americans) The showbag includes a carrot voice recorder, a choice of plush, a jigsaw puzzle and some other tat gently caress, I'm away from tomorrow morning. Need to find someone to bribe to get me one.
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Barudak posted:We crushed their chapter, and actually all Lousiana chapters, of my frat despite being at a way smaller school. Loved tailgating their football though, in America if your colege does football it does football. Ha, both my British schools did houses. I was in the equivalent of Hufflepuff both times.  potato!
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I dont know what House is "most House points lost in a year due to infractions in scbool history" but I think its Slytherin.
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Drifter posted:DFV? Sorry, "digital film and video." There were some other major divides but I guess since we shared a building, we all hated our neighbors. Never heard bad poo poo about the industrial design or culinary folks.
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Hedrigall posted:Nooope, what's that? It's an 80s movie staring Rodney Dangerfield. The plot to An Extremely Goofy Movie is pretty much wholesale ripped off from it.
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So Adult Swim went and put up a new small preview clip for Samurai Jack S5 today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMIZD-JSf5k
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Regalingualius posted:So Adult Swim went and put up a new small preview clip for Samurai Jack S5 today. Looks great. Jack with a gun is strange and I like it. In fact, it and the stabby/sparkly spear makes me think he will need to find his sword and that could be a decent way to get back into the main plot. Looking forward to this!
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Jack needing to find his sword is actually a really neat plot idea, because as far as I remember it's specifically enchanted to hurt Aku and most other weapons don't do anything. So if he ever lost it he'd absolutely want to go find it again.
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Das Boo posted:This is weirdly goddamn true. People'll brush off the most insane poo poo because "Yeah, they're an animator, of course they draw their characters loving. Of course they draw other characters loving. They all draw hardcore porn of cartoons." It's one of my career back up plans the next time the feast-or-famine nature of the industry puts me out of work for a bit. Practice my drawing skills and help some people get off.
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Barudak posted:Depends on what school you go to, how big greek life is, and what frats are there. Social fraternities or sororities can be either horrible or fantastic but theyre all very pricey. Business or academic ones are cheaper and rarely have any pressure or hazing. I used to think movie frats were super hyperbolic in how they were represented, but that's probably because my college was a commuter school so no one lived on campus so the Greek life scene had nowhere to really plant itself. But yeah, Hedrigall, American college life is relatively accurate in its movie portrayals. Mostly because all high school media is either wish fulfillment or pandering to younger audiences but the college media is mostly recollections and slight exaggerations of actual experiences in college since the writers were probably less awkward then and less ashamed of their time there.
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I'm unexpectedly getting that Beauty and the Beast live-action remake from Netflix tomorrow, so I guess that means because I like to torture myself that I have to watch all three of the direct-to-video sequels to the original. It is rather amusing that all of them seem to function as 'side-quels' to the original, because hardy-fuckin'-har, no child wants to actually see the movie where Belle lives a boring-rear end life with The Prince Formerly Known as Beast. Which makes me realize that there really is only one twist that the live action remake could spring, that I'm almost certain they won't do.
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Hedrigall posted:They could pull a Shrek and have Belle turn into a beast at the end as well That's the rub, though, isn't it? Like, in the post-Shrek world, any straight Beauty & the Beast story just sounds gross. And I'm not even that big a proponent of Shrek, but, you know, its vulgarity and 'anti-Disney' partisanship is thoroughly consistent and remarkably compelling. Ostensibly the message of Renaissance Disney is that "true beauty is within," but watching it today, the experience for me is provocative of precisely the opposite: Like, "No, gently caress you, the cruel prince got exactly what he deserved, the Beast is the 'real him' (as the side-quels make abundantly apparent), and all this stuff about 'inner beauty' is obfuscation."
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K. Waste posted:That's the rub, though, isn't it? Like, in the post-Shrek world, any straight Beauty & the Beast story just sounds gross. And I'm not even that big a proponent of Shrek, but, you know, its vulgarity and 'anti-Disney' partisanship is thoroughly consistent and remarkably compelling. Isn't the whole point that Beast is a big jerk who gets better? She doesn't fall for him until he shapes up.
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It's worth noticing that there is some nuance in Belle's reaction.. Belle isn't just taken by the Beast after the transformation. She acts suspicious. She strokes his hair which is meant to connect with his beastly side, but obviously it's not the same. It's his eyes that have stayed consistent that convince her that it's him. Point is, there is absolutely no celebration on Belle's part for the Beast turning back to a human form. It's a matter of recognizing the man she loves regardless of how he looks. The Broadway adaptation had an interesting conceit that the servants were slowly being turned into inanimate objects. It added to the stakes immensely whereas in the original adaptation the worst case scenario is the pleasant status quo of the majority of the film being maintained. I think that if you wanted a fix for the inner-beauty thing it would be to add to the stakes that the Beast is actually becoming a mindless monster. Shift the focus of why it's important for the curse to be broken.
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The_Doctor posted:Ha, both my British schools did houses. I was in the equivalent of Hufflepuff both times. I also had houses in my schools, which I mentioned to American friends in an anecdote and they couldn't believe it was a real thing and not something made up by JK Rowling (she's a hack with no original ideas!!!). They were delighted and thought it was absolutely precious.
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Renoistic posted:Isn't the whole point that Beast is a big jerk who gets better? She doesn't fall for him until he shapes up. Also that she always treats him like a man, and holds him responsible as such. She never lets his being a beast be an excuse, because she does not see him as a beast.
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Pick posted:Also that she always treats him like a man, and holds him responsible as such. She never lets his being a beast be an excuse, because she does not see him as a beast. Plus if anyone is a beast it's the loving evil witch that punished a literal child to a cursed life as a monster as well as punishing all the servants that lived in the castle as well. It's like of loving course the Beast is such a poo poo when Belle first meets him, he was turned into a monster as a child and had basically accepted that he was never going to be transformed back. Meanwhile the evil witch that apparently goes door to door cursing naughty children was clearly capable of magic and didn't actually need to stay in the castle in the first place. We need a Beauty and the Beast sequel where Beast (who now has the ability to shift back and forth between his human form and beast form, like a werewolf) and Belle go on an adventure to find and kill this evil witch that is making her way around the world probably cursing other children for like not eating their peas or some poo poo
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Macaluso posted:Plus if anyone is a beast it's the loving evil witch that punished a literal child to a cursed life as a monster as well as punishing all the servants that lived in the castle as well. It's like of loving course the Beast is such a poo poo when Belle first meets him, he was turned into a monster as a child and had basically accepted that he was never going to be transformed back. Meanwhile the evil witch that apparently goes door to door cursing naughty children was clearly capable of magic and didn't actually need to stay in the castle in the first place. I'm down, but only if they cast Jeremy Renner and Ron Perlman as the beast.
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Renoistic posted:Isn't the whole point that Beast is a big jerk who gets better? She doesn't fall for him until he shapes up. Correction: Belle falls for him in the process of reforming him. There is no getting around the romantic angle of the film's many musical sequences. Belle begins reading a book that she loves in particular, all about an anonymous every-girl who doesn't recognize the prince in disguise, which foreshadows her inevitable falling for some petulant, aristocratic bachelor. Like, in terms of what Timeless Appeal posts, it's not just Beast's gaze which clarifies that he's still 'really' the man she fell in love with, but particularly his 'beastly' eyebrows. Once this image is internalized, the reaction is automatic and wordless. Everything plays out exactly as you would expect it to, snowballing into highly choreographed, ornamental pageantry.  The nuance here is all in the projection into Belle's gaze - because she is the one being swept up into the sublime elation that, "Oh, thank God, I don't need to kiss a dog-man." But she is allowed this subtle feature signifying his 'dark past,' which is inextricable from what it would mean to grow fond of and love a being that was notorious for cruelty. It's part of the romance, which actually has undergone remarkably little change. It's just that the naïveté of the protagonist is changed from fawning loyalty to her father, to unremarkable escapism into fairy tales. Meanwhile, everybody sings about how she's simultaneously 'peculiar,' but also irrevocably desirable. Belle's musings beyond provincial life are left constantly vague and tinged by this Judeo-Christian image of white sheep drawn towards her as she herself 'pours over' (like the water behind her) a projection of another naive, unremarkable yet irresistible maiden. Pick posted:Also that she always treats him like a man, and holds him responsible as such. She never lets his being a beast be an excuse, because she does not see him as a beast. No, Belle definitely sees him as a Beast - she is explicitly not being given a choice. The relationship is coerced, she is merely accepting, as all of her antecedents have, the premise implicitly because it rescues her father. Belle is not merely 'seeing a man' - her dreams are becoming manifest, in a manner which is foreshadowed explicitly in "Belle," but which she nonetheless does not anticipate because the whole point of the fairy tale is that she just treats the guy with compassion like a model Christian, and then is surprised to discover that while he is cruel, he is also paradoxically the key to the actualization of these aspirational class fantasies. Macaluso posted:Plus if anyone is a beast it's the loving evil witch that punished a literal child to a cursed life as a monster as well as punishing all the servants that lived in the castle as well. It's like of loving course the Beast is such a poo poo when Belle first meets him, he was turned into a monster as a child and had basically accepted that he was never going to be transformed back. Meanwhile the evil witch that apparently goes door to door cursing naughty children was clearly capable of magic and didn't actually need to stay in the castle in the first place. The witch did not force Beast to imprison some peasant girl.
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Pick posted:Also that she always treats him like a man, and holds him responsible as such. She never lets his being a beast be an excuse, because she does not see him as a beast. Is your a/v from Ferngully? 
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Build-a-Boar posted:I also had houses in my schools, which I mentioned to American friends in an anecdote and they couldn't believe it was a real thing and not something made up by JK Rowling (she's a hack with no original ideas!!!). They were delighted and thought it was absolutely precious. My schools had sporting houses, which boiled down to two days a year (the athletics and swimming carnivals) I had to sit with a bunch of kids I didn't like instead of my friends. The house placements were divvied out by alphabetical order of surnames. One of the houses I was in was called Cockburn which was pretty fun
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Macaluso posted:We need a Beauty and the Beast sequel where Beast (who now has the ability to shift back and forth between his human form and beast form, like a werewolf) and Belle go on an adventure to find and kill this evil witch that is making her way around the world probably cursing other children for like not eating their peas or some poo poo Oh so my autobiography in film format, nice
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Drifter posted:Is your a/v from Ferngully? I believe it is from the 2003 animated adaptation of Silverwing, a children's novel about bats.
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