Two Finger posted:yeah i wasn't talking about 4/8, i was talking about 8/8 which i did when i was in fishing The only thing worse than bad watches is "day working" on a run with lots of maneuvers where it just ends up "work forever"
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2/2 with the occasional 2/4 is the worst
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 03:01 |
that's so loving dumb i don't even know wtf what industry was that in? i've never heard of such a thing
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 03:06 |
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Two Finger posted:that's so loving dumb i don't even know wtf Speedrunning
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 03:09 |
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4/2 digging and refilling fighting trenches cos some gently caress forgot a piece of mission critical gear on ex
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 03:14 |
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Two Finger posted:that's so loving dumb i don't even know wtf That was out on some piece of poo poo little COP while we were undermanned and constantly getting attacked. We did that for two days, rotated to QRF for two days, and then rotated to missions for two days, then went back to the super poo poo guard shifts. Another platoon was doing 6/4 for a bit so all things considered it wasn't too bad.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 03:25 |
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When I was working my first mine job (12/12 hours on a 14/7 day roster) I read that the best way to manage fatigue in that sort of undermanned 24-hour situation was to start everyone on 2/2 for the first 12 hours and then start going 6/6 after that. I spent four months over winter in an underground mine doing 12/12+14/7 and basically didn't see the sun for two weeks at a time. You really start to feel stretched pretty thin towards the end of 14 days down. Also it was about 6°C every day up top, and 30+° underground, and loud enough the entire time that you feel it in your guts. Still, no one was shooting at anyone, so I had that going for me.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 03:32 |
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Memento posted:When I was working my first mine job (12/12 hours on a 14/7 day roster) I read that the best way to manage fatigue in that sort of undermanned 24-hour situation was to start everyone on 2/2 for the first 12 hours and then start going 6/6 after that. I spent four months over winter in an underground mine doing 12/12+14/7 and basically didn't see the sun for two weeks at a time. You really start to feel stretched pretty thin towards the end of 14 days down. Also it was about 6°C every day up top, and 30+° underground, and loud enough the entire time that you feel it in your guts. Jesus. I really hope the president brings more of these jobs back
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 05:12 |
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Jesus. I really hope the president brings more of these jobs back It was a pretty tough job, sure, but I was making 75k/yr doing it. Add socialist healthcare () and six weeks vacation and it wasn't so bad. It's when you get jobs like that where you're paying barely survival wages, have lovely safety practices and fire dudes for getting injured that they start to really suck. While I was there we hit a million man-hours worked without a single LTI.
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Wasabi the J posted:https://www.researchgate.net/publication/298722135_Final_report_project_HORIZON Having been on a ship that had two fairly major casualties in two years while we(the mates) were 6/6 I can say 6/6 is the worst. A private dredge I worked on did a 4 on/8 off 8 on/ 4 off schedule. That was the bees knees. I slept 7 hours on my 8 off, worked out, laundry, a nap on the 4 off. On the 8 hour watch the captain would give a chow relief for dinner and breakfast so neither mate did longer that 6 at the helm before a break...
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 07:14 |
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Jesus. I really hope the president brings more of these jobs back That's the poo poo that my dad and his dad did. Well, my dad did it for a year or two when he was young and almost had his fingers ripped off going on one of those tiny little mine carts going through a shaft barely tall enough for you to lay down in. gently caress that poo poo I'd never want to work in a coal mine in the US.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 07:15 |
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Memento posted:It was a pretty tough job, sure, but I was making 75k/yr doing it. Add socialist healthcare () and six weeks vacation and it wasn't so bad. My radcon math suggests that's around 25$ American an hour to work in a hellish pit where you could die. Sounds like a peach. I used to make around the same delivering sushi or pizza from the comfort of my car, though I'm not sure who was at greater risk for death between the two.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 07:30 |
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It actually worked out to be around 28/hr, but I was living on site and had exactly zero expenses. Plus it was a means to an end, and now I work a lot less hours for a lot more pay. I mean, if we're going to bitch about jobs that could kill you and didn't pay much, this might not be the right thread, but it sure is the right forum.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 07:46 |
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Where the gently caress are you delivering pizza or sushi for goddamn 25 an hour?
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 08:53 |
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Soulex posted:Where the gently caress are you delivering pizza or sushi for goddamn 25 an hour? Australia is a communist paradise compared to the states. $25 an hour is not far above minimum wage for casual workers.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 09:09 |
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Splode posted:Australia is a communist paradise compared to the states. $25 an hour is not far above minimum wage for casual workers. Minimum adult wage is something like $17.70 an hour according to Fairwork Australia, and casual rates are higher again (as they trade certain working conditions for a higher hourly rate). I don't think that includes mandatory employer contributions to superannuation either. Cost of living is quite high in most parts of Australia though.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 09:16 |
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Splode posted:Australia is a communist paradise compared to the states. $25 an hour is not far above minimum wage for casual workers. Kawasaki Nun isn't Australian, but the rest of what you've said is true. Carth Dookie posted:Minimum adult wage is something like $17.70 an hour according to Fairwork Australia, and casual rates are higher again (as they trade certain working conditions for a higher hourly rate). I don't think that includes mandatory employer contributions to superannuation either. Also true, hence why having a cost of living of $0.00/ever was pretty good while I was there. Memento fucked around with this message at 09:20 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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Carth Dookie posted:Minimum adult wage is something like $17.70 an hour according to Fairwork Australia, and casual rates are higher again (as they trade certain working conditions for a higher hourly rate). I don't think that includes mandatory employer contributions to superannuation either. 25% is the minimum casual loading on top of the $17.70 which comes out to like ~$22 However $200 a week for a 1 bedroom apartment made out of mould and asbestos is pretty standard rent in Sydney. Memento posted:Kawasaki Nun isn't Australian, but the rest of what you've said is true. Maybe he lives in some other communist paradise? America is pretty bad as far as english speaking countries go for workers rights.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 09:19 |
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Napkin math puts fuel prices at about $3.80-4.00USD a gallon for you crazy imperialist measuring people.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 09:24 |
There are two types of countries, countries that use the metric system, and countries that put a man on the moon*. Plus we fought a whole revolutionary war over foreign rulers *okay and burma I guess
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 15:36 |
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Plus we used metric on some thing in the space program.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 16:07 |
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wrong thread
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 16:19 |
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Kavak posted:Plus we used metric on some thing in the space program. But not during the Apollo program! We landed on the moon using feet and pounds, not meters and kilograms.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 16:48 |
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McNally posted:But not during the Apollo program! We landed on the moon using feet and pounds, not meters and kilograms. And we sprinkled a probe all over Mars by using both!
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Wingnut Ninja posted:And we sprinkled a probe all over Mars by using both!
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 17:25 |
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Naked Bear posted:We've got more debris on Mars than anyone else! Reminds me of a mouse pad I saw in one of the mission planning rooms of the Red Flag building at Nellis. It was a Raytheon ad, covered in pictures of Sidewinders with the caption "RAYTHEON World's Largest Distributor of MiG Parts" If it wasn't disgusting and grody I'd have stolen it in a heartbeat.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 17:57 |
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McNally posted:But not during the Apollo program! We landed on the moon using feet and pounds, not meters and kilograms. Yeah, but we didn't mix units
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 20:04 |
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Soulex posted:Where the gently caress are you delivering pizza or sushi for goddamn 25 an hour? New Orleans? That was my average hourly after tips, though I wasn't getting a gas per diem or anything and was using my own car. Working for decent pizza or sushi delivery places can be pretty lucrative Though to be fair I worked 4 nights a week, typically on big delivery days. Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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Naked Bear posted:We've got more debris on Mars than anyone else! America's true legacy will be dumping trash all over the goddamn place
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 20:07 |
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Sitting in the VA approaching my fourth hour. Random dude walking around in a grey, wrinkled, silk suit with a red shirt. Over this he is wearing a floor length coat made of animal with his Air Force rank proudly displayed on the furry epaulets. Should have chosen the Air Force I guess.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 21:03 |
Booger Presley posted:Sitting in the VA approaching my fourth hour. Random dude walking around in a grey, wrinkled, silk suit with a red shirt. Over this he is wearing a floor length coat made of animal with his Air Force rank proudly displayed on the furry epaulets. Thought you meant a fursuit
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 03:57 |
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shovelbum posted:Thought you meant a fursuit If it was I would've bailed. He's a staff member there.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 05:21 |
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USAF is just as dangerous as any other branch.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 07:08 |
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hey maybe stop giving that guy a gun
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 10:43 |
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yeah when someone points a weapon at their self the best thing to do is to give them an article 15, that will solve the problem. quit threatening to kill yourself or else!!!
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 11:16 |
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When you're looking at a five man Mexican standoff, pointing the weapon at yourself might be the only way to break it.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 13:17 |
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piL posted:When you're looking at a five man Mexican standoff, pointing the weapon at yourself might be the only way to break it. Next man makes a move, the friend of the family gets it!
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 13:53 |
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Memento posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPBp6DOwgU
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 17:04 |
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Memento posted:
Came here to post this.
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 19:08 |
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THE CHIEF LIVES is online
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