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CeallaSo posted:I believe it is from the 2003 animated adaptation of Silverwing, a children's novel about bats. The bat from Anastasia's the only bat worth remembering  (although I seem to remember the silverwing books being pretty good).
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All this discussion is now making me wonder what Kid!Beast was like. Assuming, of course, the change happened that long ago. (Certainly long enough for the French to somehow completely forget they had a prince that had been turned into a furry. Wikipedia says ten years, but I don't remember if the film ever makes that explicit.)
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Shadow Hog posted:All this discussion is now making me wonder what Kid!Beast was like. Assuming, of course, the change happened that long ago. (Certainly long enough for the French to somehow completely forget they had a prince that had been turned into a furry. Wikipedia says ten years, but I don't remember if the film ever makes that explicit.) Kid!Beast was either like Jofrey in Game of Thrones , raping livestock and eating scullery maids, or he was just young royalty and it was just late at night and he didn't want to let a strange old woman into his parent's castle.
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Picked a random one for tonight because I'm busy packing and doing other stuff and won't be watching too intently. So it's time for All Dogs Go To Heaven! Do all dogs go to heaven? Let's find out! 
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Feb 24, 2017 10:39
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I was wrong. This isn't a watch-in-the-background movie. This is amazing  Charlie is a good dog
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Feb 24, 2017 11:29
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Hedrigall posted:Charlie is a good dog They're all good dogs, Hodrigall.
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Hedrigall posted:I was wrong. This isn't a watch-in-the-background movie. This is amazing All Dogs Go To Heaven is absolutely breathtaking. Never before and probably never again will you see in a family picture a cartoon dog return to his illegal casino/bordello after a stint in the pound only to get liquored up and subsequently murdered on screen by his business partner. Forsaking the eternal bliss that is his birthright, our 'hero' Charlie returns to Earth in corporeal form to indulge not just in the pleasures of the flesh, but in the white hot rush of bloody revenge against his personal Judas. The instrument of this revenge happens to be a little girl whom he kidnaps and emotionally manipulates for profit in order to deny his enemy the economic lifeblood of crime - all the while our cartoon dog is perused by visions of Satanic minions, and his night filled with the torturous visions of a lovingly hand drawn hellscape which inevitably awaits him, the price for revenge! As his scheme unfolds, the empty pleasures of his many vices confront him in all their hollowness, ringing empty and echoing gleefully with the patient chuckling of demons. Just as our 'hero' doubts his own commitment to both debauchery and violence, the human girl is retaken by his rival, stolen in the midst of a struggle to define his self identity. Discarding his own selfishness, Charlie risks life and limb to rescue her, eventually sacrificing his vengeance and accepting eternal damnation in exchange for one human life which he had once valued only as a means to his own ends. With his acceptance of value in others and Christ-like self sacrifice, he is allowed once more into the eternal paradise. After hearing this plot synopsis, the movie executive blearily wiped a smidge of powder from the side of his nose and set forth to assemble the greatest 1980's cast to carry this vision to the god-damned Oscars. First, epitome of masculinity, charm, and nationwide sex symbol Burton Leon "Burt" Reynolds to voice Charlie B. Barkin.  <-Avarice!  <-Manipulative Charm!  <-Inebriated by his partner! (in crime!) <-Being glared at by his partner! (in life!)Second; comedy voice genius and good friend to Reynolds and Bluth - Dom DeLuise as Itchy Itchiford.  <-Comedy!  <-Duet with his life partner! <-Not cool with adding a little lady to their dynamic.Thirdly, a child literally too precious for this earth, Judith Barsi as Ann-Marie, the little girl animal psychic.  <-Literally too precious <-Literally her dad killed her  <-Too jealous of her adorable successThen of course Don Bluth took that fucker to the drat wall in terms of artistic quality, care and attention to detail, and a sheer amount of incredible passion. The visuals are breathtaking in every frame, the voice work perfectly suited, and the story so bizarrely unconventional that you can't help but be smitten by it. After it was made as a labor of love by a big team of really talented artists it opened in theaters...opposite The Little Mermaid from Disney.  Image of Charlie being tormented by demons as he sinks into a pit of hellfire not related to the above.Still, it was successful enough on the home market to spawn sequels and spin off series of lesser quality in all avenues, but this kind of long standing sleeper appeal is what has made All Dogs Go To Heaven a constant staple in children's film libraries and precipitated its re-release in all new formats as they arrive on the market.  Left: Christ-Dog returning to heaven. Left: Dog-Christ redeemed.
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Hey I was about to type exactly all of that!  That joke out of the way... Jesus, All Dogs was great. I don't know why I avoided watching that for so long! The songs, the character design and movement, the voice acting, the Spooky Mormon Hell Dream sequence, not to mention my now-second-favourite Louisianan gator... Definitely gonna get the bluray of this one  Oh and I know it was Burt Reynolds but I couldn't help hearing Jason Alexander as Charlie's voice 100% of the time
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Hedrigall posted:Hey I was about to type exactly all of that! I have text alerts related to this movie. You have no hope. Hedrigall posted:Jesus, All Dogs was great. I don't know why I avoided watching that for so long! Don Bluth is a visionary in animation and its a crime he never gets enough credit; look at the direction here, the economy of movement and expression he manages to convey. Those little tail wiggles, the ears - just the movements of two characters and a basically static background is elevated by excellent direction. Hedrigall posted:Oh and I know it was Burt Reynolds but I couldn't help hearing Jason Alexander as Charlie's voice 100% of the time Jason Alexander could play a character slimy enough to kidnap and emotionally manipulate a child, but he could never portray the kind of super-stud that can charm/seduce a literal angel. In heaven. I mean, just wow! A great performance, and a little note here is that most of the duos recorded together! Burt and Dom were in the same room recording together which gives every Charlie/Itchy scene such a vibrancy and warmth that can't be replicated in the mixing stage, and the same was true for Killer and Carface. This is probably why they have such fantastic chemistry with each other!  I really can't sing Bluth's praises enough - he was one of those few (especially at the time) who considered animation as a vehicle for all stories, not just children's material. That attitude comes across in all his work, and when he embraces it his art really shines as a cohesive vision. All Dogs Go To Heaven is only mildly tainted by this struggle, so it was sooooooo good. Easily his second best, and a tough competitor for his top film. (up against NIMH of course.) LeJackal fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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Feb 24, 2017 13:36
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I have fun doodling the characters while i watch these things. Tell me if 2 furry 4 this thread  Drifter, don't
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Your art is always welcome in this thread in my opinion. Its like animation seeds that can one day grow into a movie! (And if not in this thread, your art is always welcome in my heart.  )
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Feb 24, 2017 13:40
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Drifter posted:(although I seem to remember the silverwing books being pretty good).
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Shadow Hog posted:All this discussion is now making me wonder what Kid!Beast was like. Assuming, of course, the change happened that long ago. (Certainly long enough for the French to somehow completely forget they had a prince that had been turned into a furry. Wikipedia says ten years, but I don't remember if the film ever makes that explicit.) The narrator says in the opening that the spell will either be broken or sealed when Beast is 21. The stain-glass panels seem to imply that the curse is cast upon him when he's relatively young, perhaps not even 12 or 13.
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K. Waste posted:The narrator says in the opening that the spell will either be broken or sealed when Beast is 21. The stain-glass panels seem to imply that the curse is cast upon him when he's relatively young, perhaps not even 12 or 13. One of the sequels has him about this age.
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Feb 24, 2017 15:13
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They say it's been ten years in Be Our Guest.
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I had no idea that movie had Tim Curry. I assume it's completely dire, though?
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Feb 24, 2017 15:25
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The new Beauty and the Beast has the plot point that if Beast cant fight off the spell the servants become furniture forever.
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Macaluso posted:We need a Beauty and the Beast sequel where Beast (who now has the ability to shift back and forth between his human form and beast form, like a werewolf) and Belle go on an adventure to find and kill this evil witch that is making her way around the world probably cursing other children for like not eating their peas or some poo poo
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Barudak posted:The new Beauty and the Beast has the plot point that if Beast cant fight off the spell the servants become furniture forever. Jesus, that witch needs to tone it down. She's at a 27 and needs to be at more of a 3.
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Barudak posted:The new Beauty and the Beast has the plot point that if Beast cant fight off the spell the servants become furniture forever. Furniture as they are, or inanimate furniture? I think I saw All Dogs too young, because it freaked me out and I refused to ever watch it again.
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I suppose I should come clean and confess I haven't seen... like, any of Don Bluth's films, except Thumbelina (which I barely remember) and Anastasia (which I remember quite fondly). I've already spelled out why I'd probably pass on Titan AE, but I do kinda wanna see things like The Land Before Time, An American Tail, All Dogs Go To Heaven and especially The Secret of NIMH sometime.Pyrotoad posted:One of the sequels has him about this age. Phylodox posted:They say it's been ten years in Be Our Guest.
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Drifter posted:(although I seem to remember the silverwing books being pretty good). In one of the books the bats fall into bat hell and fight bat satan. They're great.
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The A.V club has its review for Rock Dog up and it seems pretty dire. Much like any review site, take it with a grain of salt but it looks a bit skippable. I will watch just about anything with J.K Simmons in it so this may go by as something half watched on Netflix while I fool about. The review does mentioned that "There is a scene where he trudges around in the rain to Radiohead’s “No Surprises,” so that is certainly something. http://www.avclub.com/review/rock-dog-direct-streaming-cheapie-movie-ticket-pri-250764 Beachcomber posted:I think I saw All Dogs too young, because it freaked me out and I refused to ever watch it again. The Hell sequence legitimately terrified me as a kid. I adore it as an adult but it was wild at the time. There is something about Bluth's color palette that makes things intense and still dreamlike.
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Don Bluth films are amazing but I guess if I had to say something I don't like about them it'd be the sound quality or direction. I'm not an expert on the subject and not sure if all the other films of that era were just audiably remastered but everything sounds like it's coming out of a cardboard box. Anyway Land Before Time is probably the best Least Don Bluth-yiest films. Everything is much more slower paced and things arent constantly moving like American Tale. Also no sexy stuff
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Beachcomber posted:Furniture as they are, or inanimate furniture? Its in the latest trailer, but I believe it is inanimate furniture. Like theyll just die.
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ImpAtom posted:Jesus, that witch needs to tone it down. She's at a 27 and needs to be at more of a 3. In Villeneuve's original novel, the fairy is actually the prince's caregiver while his father is dead and his mom is busy waging wars to defend his birthright. She turns him into the Beast when she tries to seduce him and he refuses.
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I remember being quite fond of the All Dogs go to Heaven sequel when I was little, but I haven't seen it for literally twenty years. It probably doesn't hold up, huh... edit: What the gently caress Charlie Sheen's in this??
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Pyrotoad posted:I remember being quite fond of the All Dogs go to Heaven sequel when I was little, but I haven't seen it for literally twenty years. It probably doesn't hold up, huh... Without a doubt the worst movie in which Charlie Sheen has ever played a dog.
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The only thing I remember about the ADGTH sequel is that the wacky sidekick dog dies in the first 5 minutes after choking on a bone, which felt weirdly grim even for a sequel to ADGTH
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All Dogs Go to Heaven 2 ends up being surprisingly pro-right to die as Itchy has the choice to come back to life but decides not to because life has been so difficult for him. Charlie coming back to life in the end kinda cheapens the first movie though.
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I just watched All Dogs Go To Heaven because of the thread and legit actually cried a little, murdered dogs and murdered adorable little girls are my loving weakness.
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ImpAtom posted:The only thing I remember about the ADGTH sequel is that the wacky sidekick dog dies in the first 5 minutes after choking on a bone, which felt weirdly grim even for a sequel to ADGTH Also that the main villian is literally Satan.
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Crazy Ferret posted:The Hell sequence legitimately terrified me as a kid. I adore it as an adult but it was wild at the time. There is something about Bluth's color palette that makes things intense and still dreamlike. Me too. Mom used to put it on on lazy Sundays when she'd spend the afternoon reading. My sister and I had a love/hate relationship with that movie. I was talking to my mom about it years later, as an adult, and she was confused as gently caress. Seems she thought we'd been watching Oliver and Company over and over. lol
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CeallaSo posted:I believe it is from the 2003 animated adaptation of Silverwing, a children's novel about bats. Yes, I mentioned it and its hilarious Canadian badness in my bats thread, and now I have a batvatar. Bats!
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I've posted before about the timeline wackery in BatB. I personally discount the sequel and contend that Beast was cursed at around 20 (the age he clearly is in his portrait) and is about 30 when he meets Belle, and this isn't that weird as an age-gap relationship because Beast years are essentially "lost time". Otherwise, Chip makes no sense, he'd have had to have been conceived as a cup and that's really fuckin weird. Also the dog would probably be dead.
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Pick posted:I've posted before about the timeline wackery in BatB. I personally discount the sequel and contend that Beast was cursed at around 20 (the age he clearly is in his portrait) and is about 30 when he meets Belle, and this isn't that weird as an age-gap relationship because Beast years are essentially "lost time". Otherwise, Chip makes no sense, he'd have had to have been conceived as a cup and that's really fuckin weird. Also the dog would probably be dead. In terms of verisimilitude, it makes no sense, but it's consistent within the naive framework of the story that Belle and Beast are both adults as well as children. We are told explicitly that the spell will be broken or sealed in his 21st year, yet there are clearly remnants of a character who was or was close to that age. Rather then discounting the scenario portrayed in the sequel (which isn't consistent with the portrait, but is consistent with the frame-narrative), one is forced to accept them as equally true. The portrait is enchanted, or some bullshit, mocking Beast, which is why he tears at it. Its significance in the opening and later when Belle discovers it is metaphoric, not literal. edit: Every time you see something like that, an enchantress did it. K. Waste fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Feb 24, 2017 |
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I really miss my dog :/
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Shadow Hog posted:I suppose I should come clean and confess I haven't seen... like, any of Don Bluth's films, except Thumbelina (which I barely remember) and Anastasia (which I remember quite fondly). I've already spelled out why I'd probably pass on Titan AE, but I do kinda wanna see things like The Land Before Time, An American Tail, All Dogs Go To Heaven and especially The Secret of NIMH sometime. I remember liking NIMH but it being super dark, which I guess is just a thing in every Bluth movie. It's weird how some of the decent hits of the 80's/90's are never on tv these days, is it a rights issue? Hey Pick
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Shadow Hog posted:Ah, that's right, forgot about that whole "Ten years we've been rusting, / needing so much more than dusting, / needing exercise, a chance to use our skills!" lyric. In fairness, maybe he spent the first few years trying to keep up appearances and then fell deeper and deeper into depression? Larryb posted:Also that the main villian is literally Satan. Better yet, Cat Satan.
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