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Nier is awful. Nier is great.
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Blackfyre posted:Is there any news on the PC version of Automata. I thought this was confirmed but it's not even available for pre-order on Steam. So I guess for now Automata is PS4 exclusive.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:02
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Nier is very easy to recommend if you have the console for it because you can get it very cheap and it's not a long game. Mechanically spotty but there's more than enough awesome stuff in there to warrant checking it out
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Feb 24, 2017 16:03
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Harrow posted:It is possible that my anticipation for Nier: Automata is going to make me actually implode.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:04
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MMF Freeway posted:If you like platinum style action games this is gonna be a good one of those. You don't really need to know about Nier I don't know what a platinum style action game is
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Feb 24, 2017 16:04
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fridge corn posted:I don't know what a platinum style action game is You should play some of them then
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Feb 24, 2017 16:05
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Lurdiak posted:Revengeance 2 in a more interesting setting. if you can make it more than 2 minutes into any sort of nier lore explanation... hah. hats off...
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Feb 24, 2017 16:06
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Andrast posted:You should play some of them then I don't know any!!!!
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Feb 24, 2017 16:06
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fridge corn posted:I don't know what a platinum style action game is They're the Bayonetta devs. MGR, Wonderful 101, etc.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:07
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fridge corn posted:I don't know any!!!! Nier Automata
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Feb 24, 2017 16:08
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MMF Freeway posted:I mean Nier is amazing, but hard to recommend.  Aye, its very Marmite. By traditional game review standards its not the best game ever but if you have a certain disposition/character its really great.I was kinda assuming that Automata was a different setting but it is linked to the first game? I've heard Emil and Devola/Poppola are back?
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Feb 24, 2017 16:08
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fridge corn posted:I don't know anything about neir or why I should care about it The first Nier is a really good game that's hard to recommend. The gameplay is unique but kind of janky. The story, on the other hand, is really creative, weird, and also sad. That said, it apparently has just about nothing to do with the plot of Nier: Automata, despite taking place in the same world. Nier: Automata is an open world action-RPG with combat developed by Platinum Games that plays sort of like Metal Gear Rising mixed with a top-down bullet hell shooter sometimes. The story is about aliens attacking Earth with remote-controlled robots so all the humans run away to the moon and send androids down to fight the robots, and you play as those androids. You fight robots and do things in the open world like ride around on giant boars. Also the music is insanely good if that matters to you. Blackfyre posted:I was kinda assuming that Automata was a different setting but it is linked to the first game? I've heard Emil and Devola/Poppola are back? Same setting, just several thousand years after the end of Nier.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:08
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oddium posted:if you can make it more than 2 minutes into any sort of nier lore explanation... hah. hats off... Maybe I'm a masochist but for as dumb as it all may or may not be I enjoyed how Nier was linked to Drakengard 1 and by extension 3 etc.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:09
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i watched the 30 minute long video with the scandinavian (?) lady. which i think gives me ending E
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Feb 24, 2017 16:10
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Blackfyre posted:
I think its connected via Nier ending D but hell if I know the goings on with that lore.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:10
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Harrow posted:The first Nier is a really good game that's hard to recommend. The gameplay is unique but kind of janky. The story, on the other hand, is really creative, weird, and also sad. That sounds cool and all but I just googled it and it looks like dumb anime bullshit??? 🤔
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Feb 24, 2017 16:14
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Phantasium posted:People in Japan got mad because there's a junk fishing item in Automata called the NIN64. At least it's not as tacky as when you find a skeleton in a game and it's supposed to be the main character from some rival franchise or even more bizarrely a franchise from an entirely different genre.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:15
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Origins is also super badly balanced by comparison and you can't even fight the final boss unless you play the game twice. Who is Thor? Are you talking about Toal?
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Feb 24, 2017 16:15
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fridge corn posted:That sounds cool and all but I just googled it and it looks like dumb anime bullshit??? 🤔 Yeah its quite anime. Luckily, anime is good.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:17
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fridge corn posted:That sounds cool and all but I just googled it and it looks like dumb anime bullshit??? 🤔
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Feb 24, 2017 16:17
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Blackfyre posted:Maybe I'm a masochist but for as dumb as it all may or may not be I enjoyed how Nier was linked to Drakengard 1 and by extension 3 etc. What I love about it is that Nier is a sequel to what seemed like Drakengard's joke ending. It'd be like if Konami had made a game that had, as its backstory, the secret dog ending from Silent Hill 2. That, and the immensely detailed "how Drakengard leads into Nier" backstory doesn't matter and yet it's all there in codex entries and also real-life published lore books in case you want to read a crazy story that never comes up in the game at all. Like, there's this account of several international incidents and a bunch of wars with an enemy that never appears in Nier. Like three total things from the backstory matter to the actual plot of the game: particles from another dimension caused an epidemic of an incurable magical illness, and they only way to get around it was to separate people's souls from their bodies, then make clone bodies to take care of the planet so that, when the epidemic ran its course, the souls could reunite with some form of their bodies. Also they used those particles to do magic using computers that look like books because magic. In the present day, the clones developed consciousnesses of their own, so the disembodied souls can't reunite with them, go crazy, and the clones think they're monsters and they fight. The leader of those souls is the soul of the original Nier. All of that is in the backstory, but so are detailed explanations of: - The actual source of the particles (the Queen Grotesquerie and Angelus the dragon from Drakengard). - Conspiracy theories about the Shinjuku quarantine zone. - International incidents arising over White Chlorination Syndrome. - The war with the Legion and their leader, Red Eye. - Another war with the Legion and their leader, Red Eye. - A US-Japan treaty to work together to defeat the Legion. - Another war with the Legion and their leader, Red Eye, like a thousand years later. Anyway it's all nuts and I love it. I wouldn't be surprised if there are pages upon pages of "how Nier leads to Nier: Automata" backstory that won't end up mattering at all.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:18
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Phantasium posted:People in Japan got mad because there's a junk fishing item in Automata called the NIN64. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys3oP7Ax6nM
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Feb 24, 2017 16:18
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oddium posted:if you can make it more than 2 minutes into any sort of nier lore explanation... hah. hats off... I meant visually interesting, the lore is whatever.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:19
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fridge corn posted:That sounds cool and all but I just googled it and it looks like dumb anime bullshit??? 🤔 Yes, I forgot to mention it is very anime. The playable characters are an android who dresses like a French maid and has a very lovingly-modeled butt that the 3D artist is apparently very proud of, another android who looks like a 12-year-old boy, and another android who wears basically nothing but has a more robotic-looking body. There are a few different types of anime nonsense. There's the moe/"cute girls doing cute things" type, which I have very little patience for. But there's also the "everything is suffused with drat-near-nonsensical symbolism drawn from multiple mythologies and it's all going to build to some pseudo-philosophical story that also probably is going to show the main character in a crucifixion pose at some point" anime nonsense and I'm pretty much in for that when the game is good enough. Nier: Automata is definitely going to fall in that latter category. I mean, poo poo, the French maid android is named "2B" and spends the demo level talking about how they're not allowed to have emotions but then having emotions anyway.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:22
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Lurdiak posted:I meant visually interesting, the lore is whatever. hmm i dunno dog revengenance had some quality animations, the zandatsus were flashy and blade mode felt good, the fights with ray and armstrong were styling, and everyone had a solid design
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Feb 24, 2017 16:27
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oddium posted:hmm i dunno dog revengenance had some quality animations, the zandatsus were flashy and blade mode felt good, the fights with ray and armstrong were styling, and everyone had a solid design Setting, I said. Like, the environments, and the mooks. Revengeance is middle east, denver, sewers, and a military base, and you fight a lot of generic soldier-mans.
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Feb 24, 2017 16:33
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Automata has a different animation for returning to neutral pose after every single attack and they're all amazing looking but I never see them because I just mash the dodge button to get running after I stop attacking 
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Feb 24, 2017 16:33
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The Neir LP was a good read and more enjoyable than my attempts to actually play the game
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Feb 24, 2017 16:35
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Lurdiak posted:Setting, I said. Like, the environments, and the mooks. Revengeance is middle east, denver, sewers, and a military base, and you fight a lot of generic soldier-mans. oh yeah i mostly agree i guess. the office and the boss fights had some nice stuff but other than that it was very. Brown
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Feb 24, 2017 16:39
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fridge corn posted:I don't know any!!!! They all more or less trace their lineage to Devil May Cry, which was itself going to be a Resident Evil game with some Onimusha elements mixed in but got turned into its own thing. Combo based action where time plays into it, different weapons to use, that sort of thing. I personally tried to get into Bayonetta since I was a DMC fan but the ADD presentation made it tough for me to enjoy. Metal Gear Revengeance is allegedly the most fun of the bunch (at least according to my friends who also came from loving DMC and similar games like God of War) so one of these days I'll have to try it. And so should you. Also go play DMC1 and 3 if you haven't because they're very good games.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:03
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I want to play Nier Automata but I'm afraid even the easiest difficulty will be too hard for me or that some of the content will be locked behind the higher difficulties. I almost died in the demo on normal difficulty 
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Feb 24, 2017 17:05
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Lakbay posted:I want to play Nier Automata but I'm afraid even the easiest difficulty will be too hard for me or that some of the content will be locked behind the higher difficulties. The easiest difficulty is way easier than the normal difficulty.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:08
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Lakbay posted:I want to play Nier Automata but I'm afraid even the easiest difficulty will be too hard for me or that some of the content will be locked behind the higher difficulties. You'll be fine. On normal it is not a particularly difficult game. Along the lines of the original Nier if you played that. You've been playing Nioh which is dramatically more difficult.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:13
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Platinum likes to make their easiest modes basically play the game for you by having the character do context-appropriate combos when you hit buttons at random, you should be fine.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:14
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Also you can change the difficulty at any time. Using other Platinum games as a gauge for its difficulty isn't right. It's like the first Nier game in basically every way except the fight buttons are better.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:18
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Lakbay posted:I want to play Nier Automata but I'm afraid even the easiest difficulty will be too hard for me or that some of the content will be locked behind the higher difficulties. Almost dying doesn't mean the game's too difficult for you! You can probably handle normal, and if you can't, just adjust the difficulty as you feel like it until you get a good handle on the combat. And if I'm not mistaken, I don't think Yoko Taro games tend to lock content behind higher difficulties. Multiple playthroughs, yes, but not different difficulty settings. I could be wrong about that, though.
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Feb 24, 2017 17:19
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I know platinum games are infamously hard and I couldn't beat Sam in Reveangeance on normal and I've been scarred for life "Show me a good time Jack..." 
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Feb 24, 2017 17:25
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i'm not mad, nor do i care, but taking chip damage from monsoon and losing the No Damage bonus + s rank against revengenance monsoon... do not like...
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Feb 24, 2017 17:28
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Harrow posted:Yes, I forgot to mention it is very anime. The playable characters are an android who dresses like a French maid and has a very lovingly-modeled butt that the 3D artist is apparently very proud of, another android who looks like a 12-year-old boy, and another android who wears basically nothing but has a more robotic-looking body. Yeah don't think ill be buying this game
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Feb 24, 2017 17:29
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What games do you like fridge corn
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