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Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
Grabbed Coraline and Iron Giant blurays from the shelf for my Sydney trip, the rest of the movies I want to watch will have to be on Netflix or other services.

Australian Netflix sucks for animated movies by the way. Probably every studio is represented but it's a patchy selection of films. There's like 4 Pixar films - what kind of rights issue would allow some Pixar films but not all of them? It's all one company! :psyduck:


Edit: beyond animated movies the Netflix selection here is pretty awful in general. I mainly use it for watching the Netflix originals.

Hedrigall fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Feb 24, 2017

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LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

Robindaybird posted:

Granted Witch cursing is it's implying the idea of refusing hospitality to an old woman in the middle of winter is more or less a death sentence (think of say the Angels in Sodom or Gammorah, or of Zeus and Hermes and the town they turned into a lake), but still an extreme overreaction to turn the servants into furniture.

Well, in those days servants and serfs were considered less than people, really, they were more like extensions of their lord. So turning servants into furniture makes a sort of sense, if you're cursing.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Also they probably could have pretended to keep her out for the prince and then snuck her in the back, or something, and instead stood with the prince. Which whilst not as bad is still, in her mind, deserving of a cursing.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
I've always kind of thought of her as a fae, because they're generally super hung up on hospitality, while also having an...unconventional...morality.

Pixeltendo
Mar 2, 2012


My favorite part of All dogs go to heaven is the completely random big lipped alligator musical number about how he wants to bone a dog.

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

It's been 28 years since the first movie, has anyone that worked on that movie tried to explain that? My head canon is Don Bluth had a trash can full of rejected Dragon's Lair sequences and he figured they deserved to be featured in hell

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I might get drawn and quartered for saying this, but I'm not really the biggest fan of Don Bluth's stuff. Most of his stuff is.....the best way I can put it is visually off-putting. I can't really articulate why, I just don't like it.

Also he has a bad habit of drawing small girls with bedroom eyes and THAT'S WEIRD.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Waffleman_ posted:

I might get drawn and quartered for saying this, but I'm not really the biggest fan of Don Bluth's stuff. Most of his stuff is.....the best way I can put it is visually off-putting. I can't really articulate why, I just don't like it.

Also he has a bad habit of drawing small girls with bedroom eyes and THAT'S WEIRD.

It's because all of his character talk like they are also eating a lemon.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Waffleman_ posted:

I might get drawn and quartered for saying this, but I'm not really the biggest fan of Don Bluth's stuff. Most of his stuff is.....the best way I can put it is visually off-putting. I can't really articulate why, I just don't like it.

Also he has a bad habit of drawing small girls with bedroom eyes and THAT'S WEIRD.

I think he almost over-details things, for some people that just pushes things into that valley.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Waffleman_ posted:

I might get drawn and quartered for saying this, but I'm not really the biggest fan of Don Bluth's stuff. Most of his stuff is.....the best way I can put it is visually off-putting. I can't really articulate why, I just don't like it.

I get what you mean, but to me that's actually a point in it's favor. I can't quite articulate what it is, either, but there's a certain crudeness to it that works very well with the stories he tends to tell.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
To me, that's not a bug, it's a feature. The subtly revolting qualities of the animation in Bluth's films is made all the more provocative because of how reactionary his films tend to be. His works - especially his early ones - have a phantasmagoric quality that (seemingly on a conscious level) harkens back to the Disney golden age.

21 Muns
Dec 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
All of you people are making me wish I'd seen a Don Bluth movie as a kid. :smith: I mean, I saw Land Before Time, but its memory has kind of been smudged out by all the lovely sequels, and I haven't seen it probably since I was like five.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Who else associates The Land Before Time with Pizza Hut birthday parties?

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
The original Land Before Time holds up.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Build-a-Boar posted:

I just watched All Dogs Go To Heaven because of the thread and legit actually cried a little, murdered dogs and murdered adorable little girls are my loving weakness.

alright, now look up the reason why the little girl wasn't in the sequel.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

DC Murderverse posted:

alright, now look up the reason why the little girl wasn't in the sequel.

:staredog:

e: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Barsi

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
Watched the Land Before Time about 3 years ago. Thought it was poo poo. Cash me ousside :colbert:


K. Waste posted:

To me, that's not a bug,

this is a bug!

21 Muns
Dec 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Hedrigall posted:

Watched the Land Before Time about 3 years ago. Thought it was poo poo. Cash me ousside :colbert:

I guess dinosaurs aren't your type?

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

K. Waste posted:

To me, that's not a bug, it's a feature. The subtly revolting qualities of the animation in Bluth's films is made all the more provocative because of how reactionary his films tend to be. His works - especially his early ones - have a phantasmagoric quality that (seemingly on a conscious level) harkens back to the Disney golden age.

It's like the scary porn people who masturbate too much watch because nothing else gets them off anymore, but for kids.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Macaluso posted:

It's because all of his character talk like they are also eating a lemon.

I remember one bit in the Rumor in St. Petersburg song in Anastasia where all the characters are talking with their tongues flapping wildly about like they're going to town on invisible lollipops, it was bizarre.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

21 Muns posted:

I guess dinosaurs aren't your type?

not enough fur, I'd suppose.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this


NOTHING TO SEE HERE MOVE ON

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.





Oh god I thought I'd forgotten about that. :smithicide:

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Magic Hate Ball posted:



NOTHING TO SEE HERE MOVE ON

Haha holy poo poo, this is from the bat movie branched off from Anastasia, right? God drat that's horrific.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges

Drifter posted:

Haha holy poo poo, this is from the bat movie branched off from Anastasia, right? God drat that's horrific.

it's also the only sequel to a bluth film to actually involve bluth

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

Drifter posted:

Haha holy poo poo, this is from the bat movie branched off from Anastasia, right? God drat that's horrific.

Which Don Bluth directed, surprise. I do like his sense of the threateningly grotesque, particularly in Thumbelina. There's an artful, hallucinogenic quality to mediocre animated films from the 70s and 80s that's missing in a lot of today's subpar kid's animation, which trends towards suffocatingly corporate CGI.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin

21 Muns posted:

I guess dinosaurs aren't your type?

Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Oxxidation posted:

I remember one bit in the Rumor in St. Petersburg song in Anastasia where all the characters are talking with their tongues flapping wildly about like they're going to town on invisible lollipops, it was bizarre.





SolarFire2
Oct 16, 2001

"You're awefully cute, but unfortunately for you, you're made of meat." - Meat And Sarcasm Guy!

Macaluso posted:

It's because all of his character talk like they are also eating a lemon.

I always associate Bluth animation with a lot of excessive nodding while speaking.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
It's a literal representation of the phrase "tongues are wagging".

SolarFire2 posted:

I always associate Bluth animation with a lot of excessive nodding while speaking.

Everyone's constantly moving. I know it's to combat cheap-looking "frozen body talking head" animation but it's like riding a tiny boat through choppy water, it makes your head spin.

Magic Hate Ball fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Feb 25, 2017

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin

When you're eating tongue, how do you know when to stop??

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Hedrigall posted:

When you're eating tongue, how do you know when to stop??

Ah hing uuh leahn ehn uuh ohp pehhy ahhm uhick.

dirksteadfast
Oct 10, 2010

Detective No. 27 posted:

Who else associates The Land Before Time with Pizza Hut birthday parties?

Constantly. I was upset it wasn't a special feature on the DVD. And according to my parents my brother and I ran that VHS tape until it died, two to three times a day everyday.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Magic Hate Ball posted:

Which Don Bluth directed, surprise. I do like his sense of the threateningly grotesque, particularly in Thumbelina. There's an artful, hallucinogenic quality to mediocre animated films from the 70s and 80s that's missing in a lot of today's subpar kid's animation, which trends towards suffocatingly corporate CGI.

I agree, it was at least visually interesting in its unpleasantness. I'm not a fan of All Dogs, for example, if nothing else the color palate is somehow both muddy and garish.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

K. Waste posted:

To me, that's not a bug, it's a feature. The subtly revolting qualities of the animation in Bluth's films is made all the more provocative because of how reactionary his films tend to be. His works - especially his early ones - have a phantasmagoric quality that (seemingly on a conscious level) harkens back to the Disney golden age.
It depends on the film. When you get to Anastasia, it can often be off-putting. In general I don't think the Disney Renaissance's clean colors, full animation, and more exaggerated human characters has necessarily aged well. There is a lot in Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin that frankly looks like good TV animation instead of breathtaking spectacle. Prince Ali is a good example of a musical number that just isn't as impressive looking as I remember. Whereas the big numbers in All Dogs Go to Heaven or the finale to Land Before Time hit the same punches they did for me as a kid.

But his latter stuff is heavily reliant on rotoscoping to the point of hitting the uncanny valley. Like once you start focusing on Anastasia's face in this number it becomes unnerving. From a distance it looks definitely cinematic and what I think people remember 90s Disney movies looking like. But up close it's animated Greg Land.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Just got out of Red Turtle. Holy crap, what a visually impressive movie.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
The boob frog number in Thumbelina is breathtaking.

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Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Timeless Appeal posted:

It depends on the film. When you get to Anastasia, it can often be off-putting. In general I don't think the Disney Renaissance's clean colors, full animation, and more exaggerated human characters has necessarily aged well. There is a lot in Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin that frankly looks like good TV animation instead of breathtaking spectacle. Prince Ali is a good example of a musical number that just isn't as impressive looking as I remember. Whereas the big numbers in All Dogs Go to Heaven or the finale to Land Before Time hit the same punches they did for me as a kid.

But his latter stuff is heavily reliant on rotoscoping to the point of hitting the uncanny valley. Like once you start focusing on Anastasia's face in this number it becomes unnerving. From a distance it looks definitely cinematic and what I think people remember 90s Disney movies looking like. But up close it's animated Greg Land.

I never thought this. It never seemed hyper detailed to me.

Anyways, I love this song. :allears:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA7XKmC5QbQ

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