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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Those clutches routinely last 100k miles so don't count on it coming up anytime soon.

As long as the motor doesn't go kablewy it's a good deal. AOS done with the motor?

Also, narrow bodies are sexy as gently caress :colbert: Every 911 you see now is wide.

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kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Blew me away to learn that the 996 is narrower than a 986.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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I will check on the AOS.

Important question I forgot: I probably won't be able to get a shop to PPI in time before the other shopper. Would you guys buy this car without one? Extensive documentation and everything works, but...

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

blk posted:

I will check on the AOS.

Important question I forgot: I probably won't be able to get a shop to PPI in time before the other shopper. Would you guys buy this car without one? Extensive documentation and everything works, but...

I wouldn't buy one without PPI if I couldn't drive it myself. If I could and it was convenient by a known Porsche specialist then I'd have it done because you could easily cover the cost of the inspection by knocking the price down with what they find because unless it is literally the perfect car, they'll find minor stuff and if they don't then you're golden anyhow. I had a PPI done on a 99 996 in great condition that found ~4k in recommended work, nothing imminent or unusual and I got $1500 knocked off the price before some other dude swooped in and bought it for like 4k more than what we had negotiated. On the 996TT I ended up with I had a Porsche dealer do the PPI since there wasn't an available specialist in the area and they did a poo poo job and charged twice as much as the specialist but I just needed basic confirmation that the car was decent because the price was so good.

If you're concerned about the IMS then buy it at 17.5 and have the IMS/RMS done and you're still under 20k with an even more impressive service history to go with the car. If it's really in that good of shape you could probably throw it on bringatrailer since they have hardons for less common colors and huge service histories plus that suspension option with LSD is excellent. Voted do it without a PPI if you liked it.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Motronic posted:

It also seemed to annoy several tree hugging prius drivers who don't like what I drive (sports cars, V8 SUVs) when I reminded them that I'm likely more eco-friendly then they are


Motronic posted:

Some turbo lag, but I understand you can cut that about in half by straight piping the secondary cats. So that's on the list for this spring/summer.

Heh

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009


lol, I get it. I get it. To be fair, doing that doesn't even throw a P0420/P0421.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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Thanks, everyone, for your help. I realized I was mistaken and that putting a rear-facing car seat in the 996 is pretty much _not_ feasible. My kid is 18 months away from front facing, meaning I'd have to put him up front in the interim - which I'm not opposed to, but if the car is to be an effective two seater I'd probably get a cheap Cayman instead, or just wait until I find the right 997 and put him up front until I have room in the back.

Mat_Drinks
Nov 18, 2002

mmm this nitromethane gets my supercharger runnin'

blk posted:

Thanks, everyone, for your help. I realized I was mistaken and that putting a rear-facing car seat in the 996 is pretty much _not_ feasible. My kid is 18 months away from front facing, meaning I'd have to put him up front in the interim - which I'm not opposed to, but if the car is to be an effective two seater I'd probably get a cheap Cayman instead, or just wait until I find the right 997 and put him up front until I have room in the back.

I did it in a BRZ, I'm sure you can do it in a 911. It'll just be a question of finding the right seat that fits. You can probably find a thread on rennlist with good info, I've even got one favorited for the 997: http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997/106792-rear-child-seat-997-any-new-experiences-2.html

18 months goes by fast. My youngest just turned two and now I'm looking at coupes again like a motherfucker :)

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

blk posted:

Thanks, everyone, for your help. I realized I was mistaken and that putting a rear-facing car seat in the 996 is pretty much _not_ feasible. My kid is 18 months away from front facing, meaning I'd have to put him up front in the interim - which I'm not opposed to, but if the car is to be an effective two seater I'd probably get a cheap Cayman instead, or just wait until I find the right 997 and put him up front until I have room in the back.

Yup, time to wait for a front facing seat or a booster because there's no possible way to fit a rear facing seat back there. The hardest part isn't even the seat to seat distance, it's that the rear seats are incredibly narrow to where I tried 3 boosters before I could find one that would sit flat on the seat and even still it's a little too wide to easily clip the seatbelt. A bunch of people use a hot air gun to soften and bend the armrests inward so that they fit better but I haven't bothered too yet since it's a nice weather car and it hasn't been nice weather.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
Pfff, take the passenger seat out. Does the 996 turn the passenger airbag off? You can always unplug it. Doesn't Shaq move the front seat to the back of every car he drives?

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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Mat_Drinks posted:

I did it in a BRZ, I'm sure you can do it in a 911. It'll just be a question of finding the right seat that fits. You can probably find a thread on rennlist with good info, I've even got one favorited for the 997: http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997/106792-rear-child-seat-997-any-new-experiences-2.html

18 months goes by fast. My youngest just turned two and now I'm looking at coupes again like a motherfucker :)

I think I have the same thread bookmarked for the 997. I assumed the same would extend to the 996 but I was mistaken. Anyhow, I just have to learn to be patient.

pipebomb
May 12, 2001

Dear God, what is it like in your funny little brains?
It must be so boring.
Sorry if this has been covered a billion times.

My Boxster only came with one key - Porsche wants nearly $500 to cut/program a new one. Any alternatives that aren't ridiculous?

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

You can buy the keys/fobs themselves through various online sources, but it needs a PST2 or PIWIS to code to the car computer. Dealers will typically do it if you bring a new key to them, but it will still be $rape$ for 10 minutes of work. Shouldn't be anyhwere near $500 though. I think the Calgary dealer did it for the PO of my 996 for $150 or something.

Alternatively, if you have local European indy shop they might have a tool and be more open to doing it for a reasonable price.

e: Forgot about the cutting itself, yeah, the dealer will still probably need to do that unless you can get lucky with a smith.

slidebite fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Mar 2, 2017

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

pipebomb posted:

Sorry if this has been covered a billion times.

My Boxster only came with one key - Porsche wants nearly $500 to cut/program a new one. Any alternatives that aren't ridiculous?

Yeah, you're mostly screwed. If you're lucky the dealer will charge 150, if not it's like 300. My 996TT luckily came with an extra fob without the key so I've been looking up similar stuff in case it wasn't programmed.

Also my 968 came with one key and it's beaten to poo poo and is missing the crest and button so I bought a new OEM blank. Should be simple since there's no transponder right? Fuckin wrongo, those blanks are steel and I've been to every hardware store and locksmith in the area but no one will touch it because it'll mess up their wheels.

pipebomb
May 12, 2001

Dear God, what is it like in your funny little brains?
It must be so boring.
From Suncoast:

quote:

ME: Hi. If I buy your blank key and a remote head (~$200) and take it my dealer, can they program it to match my vehicle or do I have to buy their VERY expensive replacements?

THEM: Yes, the local dealer can program the remote. They may or may not be able to cut the key, I know our dealer does not offer that service. So before you order you might want to make sure the local dealer can also cut the key.

So that's a little reassuring assuming the dealer charges less than $200 for the actual key/remote and I can show them my manboobs and get a discount.

Battlegoat
Jul 24, 2003


Nap Ghost
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/03/the-porsche-cayman-gt4-with-the-magic-carpet-ride/
(written by our own drgitlin)

So, I posted before here about how my C2S with Sport PASM was too rough in the "hard" setting. I actually picked up and installed one of those DSC Sport modules a couple weeks ago, and it has just about transformed the car. I don't know how or why Porsche left so much on the table with the suspension tuning, but somehow it both rides and handles better now.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer
Ok Porsche bros, I need some wheel opinions. I have Ruf Speedlines and Victor Lemans black/polished in 18" for 996TT offset (plus OEM twists but ugh) and terrible 16" Cup I's on the 968. I love the Ruf my wife loves the Victors but I hate the Victors (on the 996TT) and she hates the Ruf. So now I'm trying to decide what wheels to get on the 968 since its are garbage and I have a set of 18" tires that don't fit the 996 but fit the 968 which is why I'm aiming at 18" vs the superior (to me) 17" sizing.

Option 1: Get 2 Victors sized to fit the 968 so I can use 2 of the 4 I already have for $600. Essentially this on a black 968 http://www.autowerksofamerica.com/gallery_images/944-right.jpg

Option 2: Get 1552 wheels like are very Ruf-like at a very un Ruf-like $1200. Like this but not stanced like a douche https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t...DgwMg%3D%3D.2.l

Option 3: Try to land 17" Ruf Speedlines and just sell the tires I have http://smclassiccars.com/uploads/postfotos/1987-porsche-944-turbo-coupe-2-door-guards-red-track-or-street-1.JPG

Personally I'm hoping for 3 but I have a huge Ruf and Monoblock style wheel boner and 1 makes the most sense then at worst get a dished wheel that my wife likes of better quality than the Victors for the 996TT. The 2-tone of the Victors really work with the 944/968 era and bodytype though so I'm torn. What say you guys

Jymmybob fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Mar 5, 2017

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

Ruf, just the way your mother likes it

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
Those 1552's look way better on there than I thought they would. I really like them and they're probably what I'm going to get on my GTI but I never imagined them looking that good on a 944.

e: Local shop totaled a customers GT3 RS. Ouch.

fknlo fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Mar 5, 2017

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer
I think I'll just have to go with the Victors because it solves the problem of using the extra tires and it's hard to justify putting 2000 wheels on a 7000 car. Maybe when it's fully restored I'll upgrade to something nicer and in the meantime keep an eye out for some cheap Forgelines or Fikse wheels for the 996TT.

edit: I want these even worse than the Rufs. They'd be amazing on the 968 http://www.ebay.com/itm/122383061907

Jymmybob fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Mar 5, 2017

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Nah, get the RUFs, though the real thing looks a little better: http://jalopnik.com/the-700-hp-225-mph-all-carbon-ruf-ctr-isnt-built-off-1793040716

Trying to take inventory of things I want to fix with the 986. What is the best Porsche community for references?
I want to see if my tacky/squeaky pedals are a common issue with a common fix. And where I can buy a replacement trim piece for the spoiler.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

kimbo305 posted:

Nah, get the RUFs, though the real thing looks a little better: http://jalopnik.com/the-700-hp-225-mph-all-carbon-ruf-ctr-isnt-built-off-1793040716

Trying to take inventory of things I want to fix with the 986. What is the best Porsche community for references?
I want to see if my tacky/squeaky pedals are a common issue with a common fix. And where I can buy a replacement trim piece for the spoiler.

I use Rennlist and 6Speedonline. I think 6speed is the better technical forum particularly for turbos but I like Rennlist's layout and general forum tone a lot more plus they have more model specific forums, even a small 968 clubhouse.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer
I managed to get some stuff done this week on the 968. There was a mostly disconnected aftermarket alarm that kept blinking the turn signals that I finished disabling and am working on fully detaching all the modules but might give up since everything is 100% factory functional as is, just with a couple extra harnesses left open. Replaced the stereo with a newer working one, pulled the rocker panels and will have the new (correct) clips Tuesday, and got the parking brake working.

By Wednesday I'll have:
New LR SSK installed with new boot and knob, plus bushings etc.
Rockers correctly installed
Headlights better aligned
New tinted glass sunroof
New armrest and OEM plates for empty switches

Also new wheels are settled on. They're not exactly what I wanted but a very good set of 993 Targa speedlines for 550 shipped was too good to pass up. I have an old gold gloss plastidip set that I might use to do the inner halves but that's not pressing. The design really lends itself well to two-tones and they're correct era design and size for the 968 so I'm pretty stoked, especially at that price. Just like these with a bit more wear.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Jymmybob posted:

I use Rennlist and 6Speedonline. I think 6speed is the better technical forum particularly for turbos but I like Rennlist's layout and general forum tone a lot more plus they have more model specific forums, even a small 968 clubhouse.

I got aftermarket hood struts for $9 a piece, and OEM trunk struts for $16 on Rock Auto. Didn't find great DIY writeups for it on Rennlist, whose Boxster subforum doesn't seem quite as intensely DIY-friendly as FerrariChat's 348/355 subforum. But it was super easy with no tricky clearance issues or awkward work angles.

I find it hilarious that one aftermarket companies is named URO Parts.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

kimbo305 posted:

I got aftermarket hood struts for $9 a piece, and OEM trunk struts for $16 on Rock Auto. Didn't find great DIY writeups for it on Rennlist, whose Boxster subforum doesn't seem quite as intensely DIY-friendly as FerrariChat's 348/355 subforum. But it was super easy with no tricky clearance issues or awkward work angles.

I find it hilarious that one aftermarket companies is named URO Parts.

There's probably a dedicated Boxster forum since it's such a large group of cars. 996TTs fall under the 911 umbrella and the 968 is a weird little niche car so those two forums are about all I use. There apparently used to be a dedicated 968 forum but it looked like the site owner had a melt down just before I bought one so I just hang out on Rennlist's for the time being.

edit: http://986forum.com/forums/ looks really active

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

kimbo305 posted:

I got aftermarket hood struts for $9 a piece, and OEM trunk struts for $16 on Rock Auto. Didn't find great DIY writeups for it on Rennlist, whose Boxster subforum doesn't seem quite as intensely DIY-friendly as FerrariChat's 348/355 subforum. But it was super easy with no tricky clearance issues or awkward work angles.

I find it hilarious that one aftermarket companies is named URO Parts.
Same here, I bought $7 struts from Amazon for my hood and frunk and they worked like a champ. I think they were "Boxi" brand or something, but I wouldn't be surprised if these little gas struts mostly come from the same place. I didn't need any instructions for them but I think Pelican had a little "how-to" guide on their website. Lots there for Boxsters too.

willroc7
Jul 24, 2006

BADGES? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' BADGES!
What's all this about?

https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/6039574550.html

It's setting off my scam alarm for some reason.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

willroc7 posted:

What's all this about?

https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/cto/6039574550.html

It's setting off my scam alarm for some reason.

I was watching that too. I have no idea but it seems at least 10k lower than I'd expect but it looks like a ridiculous amount of fun and would be perfect without those uggo rocker panels.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





It photographs decently but overall it gives me an air of "it's been hosed with". Reminds me of the cars that seemed to be everywhere ten years ago that were haphazardly 'updated' to newer bodywork.

The A/C bracket with no compressor on it, for example.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

I love how searching Craigslist/Kijiji for keyword Porsche in used autos always seems to bring up a Subaru or two because they think dropping "SAME MOTOR AS A PORSCHE" in the description will help them sell their car.

willroc7
Jul 24, 2006

BADGES? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' BADGES!
That was my impression as well. Doesn't renegade imply V8 swapped also?

Yellow slant nose doe.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer
I thought the same thing when it first popped up but i looked into it and apparently they also do swaps for 993 engines into 964s. It was also for sale earlier on some vw forum until a month or two ago.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

slidebite posted:

I love how searching Craigslist/Kijiji for keyword Porsche in used autos always seems to bring up a Subaru or two because they think dropping "SAME MOTOR AS A PORSCHE" in the description will help them sell their car.

Wait what? Is there any cross over whatsoever or are they confusing the term Boxster Engine with the name of the Boxster roadster Porsche make or something?!

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

slidebite posted:

I love how searching Craigslist/Kijiji for keyword Porsche in used autos always seems to bring up a Subaru or two because they think dropping "SAME MOTOR AS A PORSCHE" in the description will help them sell their car.

I love that the thing I used to say as a joke is being used as an actual sell selling point by some idiots.

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer
Operation: Restore 968 is going pretty well now. The garbage aftermarket alarm is disabled and new stereo was installed which works very well. A new short shifter and associated bushings are in though there's still a little more slop than I was expecting but the only comparison is the 996TT with a SSK so my opinion is skewed but either way I'll have to look at the intermediate shift lever if it's still annoying. Tomorrow I'll have the clips to fill in empty switches and to correctly attach the rocker panels which were done incorrectly previously. By Thursday I'll have the new shifter boot since the other aftermarket one I had is impossible to install correctly with the SSK kit and MOMO knob plus I'll have the 17" Speedlines that will be getting new tires. Hopefully the weather will hold off enough to enjoy the car this weekend because it's going to be so much better than when I last drove it a couple weeks ago.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

slidebite posted:

I love how searching Craigslist/Kijiji for keyword Porsche in used autos always seems to bring up a Subaru or two because they think dropping "SAME MOTOR AS A PORSCHE" in the description will help them sell their car.

The salesmen at the dealerships will bring it up if you wait long enough while considering buying a base-model 2.0i.

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

Well it's slightly closer to the truth now that the boxster/caymans are 4cyls

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
Don't you fools know that the horizontal cylinders will wear oval and be junk in 5 years? (Actual pitch from Honda guy next to subi dealer but hilariously true for 996s but for different reasons.)

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Elephanthead posted:

Don't you fools know that the horizontal cylinders will wear oval and be junk in 5 years? (Actual pitch from Honda guy next to subi dealer but hilariously true for 996s but for different reasons.)

My tilted F20C motor :ohdear:

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InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Elephanthead posted:

Don't you fools know that the horizontal cylinders will wear oval and be junk in 5 years? (Actual pitch from Honda guy next to subi dealer but hilariously true for 996s but for different reasons.)
Please tell me you told him that pistons aren't round anyway.

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