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Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Fiction posted:

could have done florida too.

voter suppression says otherwise

it is just as big of a problem in NC as it was in florida

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Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Scent of Worf posted:

And that Lite moniker is the difference between right-wing American hellscape and Scandinavian-consistently-rated-the-most-prosperous-and-happiest countries in the world paradise

tbf Scandinavian countries still benefit bigly from the Capitalist Death Machine crushing third world workers to death, it's just less immediately obvious because they aren't also directly crushing third world workers to death with their armies

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

Gringostar posted:

every president in the last 100 years is a war criminal and every president for the foreseeable future will be a war criminal

like, it's part of the job description at this point

Sure that's certainly a possibility but I was explaining why Bernie is currently so well liked. It is entirely possible he would have droned some browns too once he got into office and his popularity would have most likely been affected too

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Fiction posted:

Bernie would probably still be doing yemen war crimes lol.

:hai:

also drones

and domestic surveillance

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011

logikv9 posted:

idk man republicans would've whipped out his castro vid and that might've sealed the deal there

it didn't kill trump, and bernie had some form of reality magic as well i could see it happening

Gringostar posted:

voter suppression says otherwise

it is just as big of a problem in NC as it was in florida

if you energize young ppl to vote you can usually offset that though

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

he took druid and not lich, the best shot he has at immortality is metamorphisizing into a tree like in fallout 3

not true

if bernie can become a 16th level druid by successfully fighting his way past 15th level...

quote:

Immune to all natural animal or vegetable poisons, including those of monsters, but not mineral or gaseous poisons.
Blessed with extra longevity equal to experience level times 10 years. For instance, a 16th-level druid lives 160 extra years.
Maintains vigorous health (prime of life) regardless of actual age.
Alters appearance at will in only one-tenth of a round. Hierophants can alter their facial and body features to those of any human or humanoid, change their height and weight by up to 50%, and alter their apparent age to anything from child to old. This nonmagical power cannot be detected except by true seeing or similar magic.

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Scent of Worf posted:

Sure that's certainly a possibility but I was explaining why Bernie is currently so well liked. It is entirely possible he would have droned some browns too once he got into office and his popularity would have most likely been affected too

my mistake

i thought someone was actually being serious here for a change

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Fiction posted:

it didn't kill trump, and bernie had some form of reality magic as well i could see it happening

gotta give me a reminder on the trump thing, he was pretty anti-castro the whole time it seemed which works well for a good portion of florida

counter that with bernie saying good things about castro and yeah you'll whip up the leftist portion of florida but really how big can it possibly be, it's florida

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011

logikv9 posted:

gotta give me a reminder on the trump thing, he was pretty anti-castro the whole time it seemed which works well for a good portion of florida

counter that with bernie saying good things about castro and yeah you'll whip up the leftist portion of florida but really how big can it possibly be, it's florida

there's a lot of college kids. he also had business dealings in cuba despite the embargo lol.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cqRe3xyUFA but florida

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011

zen death robot posted:

Tough to do on Presidental Election years and nearly impossible during mid-terms sadly

yeah but was there a candidate that had an annoying legion of young energized followers 🤔...don't remember...

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
trump also had a russian agent as a campaign manager but that didn't matter for awhile

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Fiction posted:

yeah but was there a candidate that had an annoying legion of young energized followers 🤔...don't remember...

that didn't work for the florida primary not sure if it would work the second time around

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011

zen death robot posted:

He's gonna be dead soon then what?!

lol ofc he's not running in 2020, someone else will have top take up the mantle

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

zen death robot posted:

Bernie is like 90 eventually you need a new guy to look up to

buttigieg :getin:

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

zen death robot posted:

Bernie is like 90 eventually you need a new guy to look up to
that's part of why he told people in no uncertain terms to go participate in local elections and offices~

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Fiction posted:

if you energize young ppl to vote you can usually offset that though

in years past maybe

reps have pretty much mastered the act of suppressing voter turnout for cities (gently caress roberts) and college towns in red states which are where those young white votes came from

it's not impossible, but it had about as much chance as happening for she who shall not be named as it did for sanders

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
I get the feeling the left is going to end up with a lot of new and rising stars over the next 4 years.

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

:siren:
VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
:siren:
so when do we see who voted for who, since the ballot was public? or did brazile suspend that part too?

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011

logikv9 posted:

that didn't work for the florida primary not sure if it would work the second time around

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

zen death robot posted:

That's a big problem in the Democratic Party in general, everyone is old as gently caress

The only thing the left and center can agree on lol

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

logikv9 posted:

buttigieg :getin:

im out of the loop out on the butt train whats the fast facts on buttigieg

e: googling buttigieg rn

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

LinYutang posted:

so when do we see who voted for who, since the ballot was public? or did brazile suspend that part too?

from what i gather the vote can be made public to any candidates who request the information, whom i would guess would promptly release it

so nobody did that yet i guess

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

zen death robot posted:

I get the feeling that we're in for some extremely dark times, myself

¿Porque no los dos?

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

not really sure there are half a million college students in florida to make up clinton's massive margin there but kids nowadays like sun and water, so maybe that's true

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
i know a family with a kid in florida for college, i am perpetually secretly jealous because he pays like nothing for rent while i have to decide between $1,000 or $1,250 a month and figuring out how much i have to borrow to pay for that

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

zen death robot posted:

You know I voted for Bernie right, I'm not even loving around on that

Why have you forsaken him?

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Ace of Baes posted:

I get the feeling the left is going to end up with a lot of new and rising stars over the next 4 years.

unironically good

i give the left a lot of poo poo for only bothering to show the gently caress up when it's been convenient for them (which they deserve) and nothing would make me happier than a strong left movement that actually loving votes more than once a decade

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

all i can find on the buttman is that hes a young mayor with military background. wheres he stand on the policies. fill me in thread!!!

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Ace of Baes posted:

Why have you forsaken him?

Shhhh~

just shhhh

There is nothing to forsake what has already been forsook

I love my dead gay irradiated planet

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

logikv9 posted:

i know a family with a kid in florida for college, i am perpetually secretly jealous because he pays like nothing for rent while i have to decide between $1,000 or $1,250 a month and figuring out how much i have to borrow to pay for that

north jersey sux sux sux sux

but it still aint florida

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
i only hate nj bc its expensive tho. no other reason really. but its really fuckin expensive and not as cool as cali so idk

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Gringostar posted:

unironically good

i give the left a lot of poo poo for only bothering to show the gently caress up when it's been convenient for them (which they deserve) and nothing would make me happier than a strong left movement that actually loving votes more than once a decade
the problem with 2008 was that things didn't get quite that bad enough because the grinding gears of kleptocracy take time to deal endless pain. doesn't help that the economic crunch started hitting the underclass during obama's presidency though him not taking banks to task did the opposite of help

the fact that people are going out and taking over offices makes me a bit more optimistic about what'll happen when the civil war begins

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Heaven Spacey posted:

all i can find on the buttman is that hes a young mayor with military background. wheres he stand on the policies. fill me in thread!!!

he was a berniebro back when you were in short pants (2000)

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

yikes

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Maybe we should look to the party's future, instead of obsessing over a guy who ran once.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Like we could rehash the 2016 primaries into eternity until we reach purity, or we can find someone new to be excited about.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Heaven Spacey posted:

all i can find on the buttman is that hes a young mayor with military background. wheres he stand on the policies. fill me in thread!!!

everything he said during the dnc debates was straight-line good, esp where to focus for elections + minor stuff like internships for future talent

he wrote a pro-bernie high school essay in 2000, in which he won an award

his dad is a big name in studying italian socialists

the worst thing he has done was to say something like "banning lobbyist donations didn't exactly make us more progressive previously" which is meh but countered out by the fact that nobody else exactly took the higher road

didn't accept any bank donations for his candidacy

marched with protestors during the major post-inaug protests, something that no other candidate did

is named buttigieg, pronounced bootedgeedge

is gay

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

the problem with 2008 was that things didn't get quite that bad enough because the grinding gears of kleptocracy take time to deal endless pain

the fact that people are going out and taking over offices makes me a bit more optimistic about what'll happen when the civil war begins

and the problem with 2004?

and the problem with 2010?

and the problem with 2012?

elections are more than every 4 years

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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

FactsAreUseless posted:

Like we could rehash the 2016 primaries into eternity until we reach purity, or we can find someone new to be excited about.

We have to do the first one until we achieve perfect synthesis or implode.

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