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"One of a kind". I can't imagine why they didn't build more.
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Feb 26, 2017 03:38
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 Almost looks Smart Roadster-y.
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Feb 26, 2017 04:48
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This is actually cool and good
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Feb 26, 2017 05:35
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Anime Reference posted:"One of a kind". I can't imagine why they didn't build more. It's definitely not one of a kind, a few friends of mine know a guy with this kit. I've seen it in person and it's worse than you can imagine it being. Made me genuinely sad.
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Feb 26, 2017 11:05
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Olympic Mathlete posted:It's definitely not one of a kind, a few friends of mine know a guy with this kit. I've seen it in person and it's worse than you can imagine it being. Made me genuinely sad. The difference in body panel fit between each kit is great enough that they're de facto different models.
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Feb 26, 2017 18:58
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neonbregna posted:This is actually cool and good I want to imagine they did this with a bottle Jack and construction truck full of those.
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Feb 26, 2017 19:48
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ishikabibble posted:
my girlfriend is Legos posted:The difference in body panel fit between each kit is great enough that they're de facto different models. clam ache posted:I want to imagine they did this with a bottle Jack and construction truck full of those.
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Feb 26, 2017 23:50
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http://i.imgur.com/XP4DdlX.gifv
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Feb 27, 2017 03:46
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I'm the guy clapping in the bg after it happens.
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Feb 27, 2017 03:55
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ishikabibble posted:
InitialDave posted:They properly hosed up by not biting the bullet and giving at least those ones a proper gearbox. What were these like? I love the design and size, and want to believe that they were fun to drive. Preparing to be disappointed.
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Feb 27, 2017 04:00
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I'm rather confused by this. For kicks I Googled "Gaggi Hills" and it is a town in Sicily - yet the sign is written in English. I'm also seeing American cars and signage, but that appears to be a German license plate. It must be a stunt for a TV show somewhere.
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Feb 27, 2017 04:17
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DropShadow posted:What were these like? I love the design and size, and want to believe that they were fun to drive. Preparing to be disappointed. Literally the worst transmission ever installed into a car.
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Feb 27, 2017 04:29
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DropShadow posted:What were these like? I love the design and size, and want to believe that they were fun to drive. Preparing to be disappointed. Yeah, I'm willing to bet that if these launched in America instead of the FourTwo, we wouldn't hate Smart Cars nearly as much.
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Feb 27, 2017 04:41
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eyebeem posted:Literally the worst transmission ever installed into a car. A friend got a Fourtwo recently and is head over heels in love with it. She was very proud of her purchase and insisted I give it a test drive. The transmission is truly as bad as reported, possibly worse. I didn't have the heart to tell her it was the goofiest piece of poo poo I've ever driven. Awful throttle response, bad ride and under no circumstance will it ever smoothly shift gears. Also the gas pedal is hinged on the floor, not on the traditional push-in arm most cars have so they somehow made that feel horrible too. They got the size right at least, it is really drat small. If I lived in a city where a car like that made sense I'd have a nice bike and a bus pass instead.
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Feb 27, 2017 05:22
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weg posted:A friend got a Fourtwo recently and is head over heels in love with it. She was very proud of her purchase and insisted I give it a test drive. The transmission is truly as bad as reported, possibly worse. I didn't have the heart to tell her it was the goofiest piece of poo poo I've ever driven. Awful throttle response, bad ride and under no circumstance will it ever smoothly shift gears. Also the gas pedal is hinged on the floor, not on the traditional push-in arm most cars have so they somehow made that feel horrible too. My daughter is the same way. Smart buyers are operating with a rather different set of criteria than the rest of us. She absolutely loves it and I struggle to find a single nice thing to say about it.
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Feb 27, 2017 05:31
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"Yeah I'm interested in the PT out front, what's it going for?" the price hasn't changed. "But what about the banner?" that's what happens to your dignity if you buy it 
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Feb 27, 2017 05:42
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Deteriorata posted:My daughter is the same way. Smart buyers are operating with a rather different set of criteria than the rest of us. She absolutely loves it and I struggle to find a single nice thing to say about it. I think the criteria is "because it's cute", or at least that's what I was able to figure out. I'm undecided if it was a better or worse purchase than her runner up: a 2016 Mirage. 
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Feb 27, 2017 05:49
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 I run on the same logic, but at least I think way better cars are cute. 
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Feb 27, 2017 05:52
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weg posted:I think the criteria is "because it's cute", or at least that's what I was able to figure out. I'm undecided if it was a better or worse purchase than her runner up: a 2016 Mirage. Mazda 2s are cute and they don't suck to drive.
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Feb 27, 2017 06:21
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Something about the Mirage is really off to me. I don't trust them at all, and I can't figure out why
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Feb 27, 2017 06:31
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weg posted:I think the criteria is "because it's cute", or at least that's what I was able to figure out. I'm undecided if it was a better or worse purchase than her runner up: a 2016 Mirage. FourTwo vs Mirage? I'll take the MIrage without pausing to think, even if it is that horrific retina-searing purple. At least you can actually fit more than a few sacks of groceries in it, and it'll be a lot more reliable than the Smart (which doesn't say much).
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Feb 27, 2017 06:38
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The Door Frame posted:Something about the Mirage is really off to me. I don't trust them at all, and I can't figure out why When even Consumer Reports offers up gems like "raspy chorus of lament" to describe the engine noise you know you've got a winner (it's the lowest scoring car they've reviewed in recent memory and there were plenty of zingers about the model name).
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Feb 27, 2017 06:45
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weg posted:Also the gas pedal is hinged on the floor, not on the traditional push-in arm most cars have so they somehow made that feel horrible too. Actually that's the correct way to do the accelerator pedal. Agree with the rest though.
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Feb 27, 2017 06:50
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nm posted:Mazda 2s are cute and they don't suck to drive. I agree with this statement but from what I am able to Google the Mirage is not a rebadged Mazda 2? The Smart owner I am talking about previously owned a grossly neglected 2001 Mirage, which until I drove the Fourtwo had the worst shifting auto I'd ever felt. I guess a new-ish Smart transmission is better than failing Mitsubishi one so she probably thinks it's normal.  Yu-Gi-Ho! posted:FourTwo vs Mirage?
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Feb 27, 2017 07:22
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I've never thought about resale when buying a car (... I currently own a GM, just the GM designation means it lost 110% of its value before I finished signing the loan paperwork). I generally drive my cars until they die, then keep reviving them until a really expensive repair comes up. And even then, I replaced the transmission (twice) on my last car before I threw my hands up and got rid of it. And yeah, I don't think the Mirage and 2 are related. The 2 was sold under Mazda, Scion, and Toyota labels. Gonna guess nm was suggesting the 2 as an alternate to the Mirage; the 2 certainly has a lot more engine.
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Feb 27, 2017 07:32
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weg posted:I agree with this statement but from what I am able to Google the Mirage is not a rebadged Mazda 2? Uhm, no. The mazda 2 and the fiesta were on the same platform last cycle (though with different drivetrains, steering racks, and suspension), but the Mitsu never has been.
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The Door Frame posted:Something about the Mirage is really off to me. I don't trust them at all, and I can't figure out why Small 
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nm posted:Uhm, no. The mazda 2 and the fiesta were on the same platform last cycle (though with different drivetrains, steering racks, and suspension), but the Mitsu never has been. Yu-Gi-Ho! posted:I've never thought about resale when buying a car (... I currently own a GM, just the GM designation means it lost 110% of its value before I finished signing the loan paperwork). I generally drive my cars until they die, then keep reviving them until a really expensive repair comes up. And even then, I replaced the transmission (twice) on my last car before I threw my hands up and got rid of it. 
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Feb 27, 2017 07:47
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Deteriorata posted:I'm rather confused by this. For kicks I Googled "Gaggi Hills" and it is a town in Sicily - yet the sign is written in English. I'm also seeing American cars and signage, but that appears to be a German license plate. It's probably just an American car meet up and somebody made a sign for it. You know, like those people with VWs and fake German license plates, etc.
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Feb 27, 2017 13:06
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Speaking of resale value, terrible car stuff is that 5 or 6 years ago you could pick up a relatively unmolested R33 GTST for around £3k, and now that I'm in a position to buy one they seem to have doubled in price for a riced out, duct taped bumper, headlight missing due to a 'sick drifting' accident. I know they're now in the ~*~VINTAGE~*~ age but seriously, £6.5k for a 20 year old import with 150k miles, most of which were probably at WOT, just not gonna happen. Back to my plan B of just getting a decent BMW / Merc sedan instead of something 'fun'.
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Deteriorata posted:My daughter is the same way. Smart buyers are operating with a rather different set of criteria than the rest of us. She absolutely loves it and I struggle to find a single nice thing to say about it. I helped a friend replace the motor on his Smart. At least its light enough to manhandle out of the engine bay  Granted, that involved removing the whole rear end... 
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Feb 27, 2017 13:40
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CommieGIR posted:I helped a friend replace the motor on his Smart. At least its light enough to manhandle out of the engine bay There is something so hilarious about this that I almost choked on my coffee. Please tell me you have more pictures.
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Feb 27, 2017 13:54
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CommieGIR posted:I helped a friend replace the motor on his Smart. At least its light enough to manhandle out of the engine bay eyebeem posted:Literally the worst transmission ever installed into a car. I was under the impression that they used a different autotragic in the Roadster though? At least that's what I remember from various top gears and what not, that it's not good but not as terrible as the For2.
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Feb 27, 2017 15:34
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mobby_6kl posted:Somebody needs to make a huge Segway out of that thing
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Feb 27, 2017 15:35
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Night Danger Moose posted:Please tell me you have more pictures. Truth be told, that's not my photo. He's an unofficial guide I followed: http://www.fq101.co.uk/how-to-guides/fortwo-450/engine/178-engine-replacement.html
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mobby_6kl posted:I was under the impression that they used a different autotragic in the Roadster though? At least that's what I remember from various top gears and what not, that it's not good but not as terrible as the For2.
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Feb 27, 2017 16:03
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weg posted:a 2016 Mirage. I took a ride in one of these care of Uber the other day. It had 35k on the clock, and it was the buzziest, rattliest, clatteriest non-diesel almost-new car I have ever been in. I'm not sure, but I don't think it had any sound deadening material. For terrible truck stuff: I was in the Uber because I had just left Monster Jam at the Pepsi Center. Beside the fact that the cool stuff like monster trucks flying through the air was interspersed with dumb, boring 30-second races on ATVs and overgrown go-karts, the whole program felt weirdly like the organizers had watched Idiocracy and then designed the program around an eventual tie-in with Brawndo and Monday Night Rehabilitation. The announcers were even wearing the same sort of goofy-rear end outfits as the clothing in the movie. Also, and this just pissed me off personally: One of the judges mercilessly sandbagged the women driver's scores and actually kept them from winning a couple events. <  >
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Very much wrong thread, but this is what you can do to a Smart roadster if you're an insane German tuning house: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xlm158_top-gear-brabus-smart-roadster-v6_auto Wolfsbane fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Feb 27, 2017 |
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Feb 27, 2017 16:54
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... or what a couple of insane Austrians can cobble together out of a Smart coupe with a dead engine and a wrecked GSX-R 1000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgwzHJo3IXM
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weg posted:Also the gas pedal is hinged on the floor, not on the traditional push-in arm most cars have so they somehow made that feel horrible too. That is how most/all BMWs are, and probably plenty of others, and is quite a good design. It has nothing to do with how they hosed up the car.
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