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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:This is a pretty good assumption though. Well, you may wish to assume that women are all crazy or whatever, but since Ytlaya was posting about how awful it is people don't give enough doubt, it seems fairly relevant.
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Brainiac Five posted:No one has said that it is. The point is to rhetorically demonstrate that it is normalization. You are automatically assuming stone cold is extremely stupid/hateful, rather than giving the benefit of the doubt. The point about normalizing pedophilia is completely valid. But it was then followed with "Take your apologia elsewhere, imo. Don't they like pedophiles over somewhere else?" which directly implies that the poster actively believes pedophilia is similar to actual* kinks. *Just as an example, I almost mistakenly said "other kinks" without thinking and fortunately managed to catch myself before hitting post. If I had missed that someone would have been right to reply with "it's bad to equate pedophilia with legitimate kinks like that" but clearly wrong to assume that I was apologizing for pedophilia since it would have literally been an example of me mistakenly typing something dumb.
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:So is voter fraud. The questions lie in the effect size, hopefully this helps. voter fraud is so rare you might as well not talk about it. 4 cases per national election isn't worth worrying about. especially compared to hundreds of thousands of valid voters being kicked off rolls by a white nationalist party.
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Ytlaya posted:The point about normalizing pedophilia is completely valid. But it was then followed with "Take your apologia elsewhere, imo. Don't they like pedophiles over somewhere else?" which directly implies that the poster actively believes pedophilia is similar to actual* kinks. That's obviously a rhetorical flourish to emphasize the badness of the comparison.
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Groovelord Neato posted:voter fraud is so rare you might as well not talk about it. 4 cases per national election isn't worth worrying about. Yup. And as I said earlier, Republicans talking about voter fraud is explicitly an attempt to legitimize their voter suppression efforts.
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Ytlaya posted:The point about normalizing pedophilia is completely valid. But it was then followed with "Take your apologia elsewhere, imo. Don't they like pedophiles over somewhere else?" which directly implies that the poster actively believes pedophilia is similar to actual* kinks. Haha gently caress you? Like Crowbeak called pedophilia a kink and I told him to get the gently caress out with that poo poo, and that makes me the pedophile apologist. Like for context, since apparently you don't know, about the only kind of really horrible people that SA ever gets rid of is pedophiles. You're a real diamond, ytlaya.
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:So is voter fraud. The questions lie in the effect size, hopefully this helps. People who think voter fraud is more important than voter suppression should probably not call other people stupid, hth
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Groovelord Neato posted:also of the 4 cases of voter fraud this election, 3 were trump voters specifically agitated by the dumbass talking about how the vote was going to be rigged. Yeah. Like if you want to be "broad" with fraud (wrongly) and include irregularities there's sometimes more -- like people voting that either shouldn't or voting in the wrong precinct or something. That's not really fraud though, and it's still much much less of an issue than active suppression being carried out by Republicans with the express intent of shrinking them dem voter base.
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Lightning Lord posted:I wish I knew enough about posters on here to know who I should be mad at about what. I'd say he mad at sell outs like Martinez and Booker. Work to make them fear their voters.
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:So is voter fraud. The questions lie in the effect size, hopefully this helps. yeah, and voter fraud has a negligible effect size while voter suppression has a pretty huge one.
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Crowsbeak posted:I'd say he mad at sell outs like Martinez and Booker. Work to make them fear their voters. I meant I wish I knew who in this thread was actually a racist pedophile Islamophobe anti-semite.
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Lightning Lord posted:I wish I knew enough about posters on here to know who I should be mad at about what. I'm a very left-wing Norwegian so you should probably be mad at me for posting in this thread at all.
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TheRat posted:I'm a very left-wing Norwegian so you should probably be mad at me for posting in this thread at all. Well we should as yacob birthed your ancestors in a lab.
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Lightning Lord posted:I wish I knew enough about posters on here to know who I should be mad at about what. skimming this thread alone makes me feel pretty confident that ignoring stone cold is the objectively correct thing to do.
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yellowyams posted:skimming this thread alone makes me feel pretty confident that ignoring stone cold is the objectively correct thing to do. Why? Are you mad that someone decided to take actual action against the degenerated political moral state that allows people to use slurs freely, instead of saying "now, now, don't do that" in your most scolding-a-dog voice?
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Lightning Lord posted:I meant I wish I knew who in this thread was actually a racist pedophile Islamophobe anti-semite. skimming this thread alone makes me feel pretty confident that ignoring stone cold and braniac five is the objectively correct thing to do.
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I'm enjoying the extent to which Bernouts would, if someone they thought was a centrist-liberal-Maoist said "No!! There's a bus coming, get out of the road!", immediately tuck into a combat roll to get in front of the drat bus, and to hell with any neoliberal that says getting hit with a bus is a bad thing, they're just conspiring to disenfranchise people.
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Lightning Lord posted:I meant I wish I knew who in this thread was actually a racist pedophile Islamophobe anti-semite. no one is, someone made a joke about it and just like Milo it's used to try to take him down by people that can't win an argument
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Mnoba posted:no one is, someone made a joke about it and just like Milo it's used to try to take him down by people that can't win an argument This is one of the coolest things about Bernouts, that a post like this will be resolutely ignored unless someone makes a huge stink about it, demanding and bullying people to denounce it, and then they do so reluctantly, and no lesson is learned and the exact same post is made again a week later. Some of y'all really need to read Combat Liberalism, for real.
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Brainiac Five posted:I'm enjoying the extent to which Bernouts would, if someone they thought was a centrist-liberal-Maoist said "No!! There's a bus coming, get out of the road!", immediately tuck into a combat roll to get in front of the drat bus, and to hell with any neoliberal that says getting hit with a bus is a bad thing, they're just conspiring to disenfranchise people. What is the bus symbolizing in this scenario?
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Crowsbeak posted:What is the bus symbolizing in this scenario? Hillary's unstoppable campaign, which only lost because of the accursed Michigan voter fraud. Oh, no, she still loses even if she takes MI. Well, if not for the rampant election h4x in PA then. Oh, nope, still loses even if she swung both MI & PA...
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Brainiac Five posted:This is one of the coolest things about Bernouts, that a post like this will be resolutely ignored unless someone makes a huge stink about it, demanding and bullying people to denounce it, and then they do so reluctantly, and no lesson is learned and the exact same post is made again a week later. Some of y'all really need to read Combat Liberalism, for real. the coolest thing about bernouts is they have better and smarter politics than you.
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Crowsbeak posted:What is the bus symbolizing in this scenario? It's a literal bus. The Ender posted:Hillary's unstoppable campaign, which only lost because of the accursed Michigan voter fraud. Bernouts also would rather spend time making body pillows of Hillary Clinton just to burn them and tear them to shreds while screaming about how voter fraud is irrelevant, all that matters is denouncing the demon Hillary, instead of getting any actual phonebanking done.
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Groovelord Neato posted:the coolest thing about bernouts is they have better and smarter politics than you. I tell you what, the Chairman might have been a total disaster in many ways, but he wouldn't put up with lip like this, nosirree.
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Brainiac Five posted:It's a literal bus. You're really really weird.
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TheRat posted:You're really really weird. Stop being abelist.
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stone cold posted:You think rape jokes are funny, so why would anybody ever engage with you? Brainiac Five posted:Why? Are you mad that someone decided to take actual action against the degenerated political moral state that allows people to use slurs freely, instead of saying "now, now, don't do that" in your most scolding-a-dog voice? Very much so yes, because it came at the cost of an election. The same election which could have been used to vote in people who would pass laws to actually address worse problems like extreme poverty or homelessness.
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KwegiboHB posted:Because they are worth one vote. The election was cost because we opposed racism and sexism. Guess we've gotta join the cops in murdering black people and sexually assaulting women now.
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Brainiac Five posted:The election was cost because we opposed racism and sexism. Guess we've gotta join the cops in murdering black people and sexually assaulting women now. Nah we're gonna be more extreme now, like desecrating Jewish cemetaries and gunning down any brown dude with a moustache and a bitchin hairstyle
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yellowyams posted:you can address workers rights without abandoning """identity politics""" (civil rights), they are not mutually exclusive. socialism is for everyone.
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No one said they were mutually exclusive except the guy saying Hillary lost because she wasn't friendly enough to racism and sexism.
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Brainiac Five posted:The election was cost because we opposed racism and sexism. Guess we've gotta join the cops in murdering black people and sexually assaulting women now. ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF POOR WHITE AMERICANS IS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH ADVANCING SOCIAL JUSTICE IN RACIAL MATTERS.
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SKULL.GIF posted:*towns across the Great Blue Firewall rot* And that's why America elected the person in the race who had even a clue how to, or even a want to, fix these things, using even a tiny bit of brainpower, and didn't fall for just some orange shitstain screaming that America was gonna win so big. You fuckers really do not get this do you? You keep on insisting that only your brilliant ideas could ever possibly win and that messaging had nothing to do with Hillary's loss, which was 100% based on the facts and policies. Then most of you have no loving clue that what you say the Dems ignored or refused to listen to was already in there. (Majorian, still waiting on why after doing all 4 of the "These things would have made Hillary win", she still lost. The lesson to take away is that voters are chimps, and to explain your ideas in as few words as possible. That's the only reasonable explanation you can come to when every single thing that is causing their problems would have been fixed by one side, made worse by the other, and still going with the one to make everything worse, you have to acknowledge this was caused by voters not being rational actors and stop trying to treat them as such. And also that "progressives" are dumb motherfuckers even by chimp standards. Chimps understand that when the man who only wants to hurt you is giving you a lump of poo poo and telling you to eat it, you don't loving listen to right wing propaganda and do exactly what they are telling you to do you brainless fuckers.
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KwegiboHB posted:ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS OF POOR WHITE AMERICANS IS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE WITH ADVANCING SOCIAL JUSTICE IN RACIAL MATTERS. You're the one who said antiracism and feminism cost Hillary the election. Maybe instead of obsessing over prospective gotchas you should use that brain of yours before it shrivels away. Or track people who voted for Hillary down in real life and terrorize them, whatever, you can choose good or evil too.
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Lots of poor white Americans are concerned about brown people stealing all the jobs and welfare so depending on your approach those two goals can actually conflict quite a lot.
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Dizz posted:Nah we're gonna be more extreme now, like desecrating Jewish cemetaries and gunning down any brown dude with a moustache and a bitchin hairstyle In fairness, there are certain types of moustaches that people deserve to be killed for.
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JeffersonClay posted:Lots of poor white Americans are concerned about brown people stealing all the jobs and welfare so depending on your approach those two goals can actually conflict quite a lot. But not all. So to write them off as a whole doesn't actually help us. Also lol I see that some are now pushing the lie that America is too racist to get change.
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Crowsbeak posted:But not all. So to write them off as a whole doesn't actually help us. And if anyone had ever said this, this would be an excellent rejoinder, motherfucker.
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