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Did you know that the Democrats were originally FOR slavery?! *Leans back, knowing he has delivered the ultimate intellectual checkmate.  *
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SBJ posted:this is why trump won Harrower posted:How can there be communication when one sides entire communication strategy is to silence any dissenting opinion by any means necessary? Every argument presented by the right is immediately dismissed by the left as either non valid or vile and despicable. The left consistently acts like they have everything 100% figured out and have no blind spots on any issue where they could possibly be wrong. Then act accordingly. I don't see any right wing rioters torching downtown or a campus because some one they don't like is speaking there.
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please dont call it the "frogman" thing. It makes them sound like they are navy seals which they will love.
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thathonkey posted:you're on the money here. right wingers style is more of the "threaten a childrens birthday party with shotguns and call hem niggers" or "shoot up a minority place of worship" variety. Both sides have bad actors who go off reservation. The difference is that the right wing lunatics are publicly denounced while the left rallies around theirs and defends them as paragons of the cause. Kjoery posted:the frog man movement is a real thing on the internet??? making observations about the nature of a movement is a thing one can do when it has a coherent set of ideals or strategy. i mean, people calling the frog men nazis are obviously missing the point, they aren't actually about nazism, thats just shock humour (i would argue that the movement encompasses many neo nazi ideals, but neo nazism isnt actually nazism, also for less obvious reasons i guess). Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point but the left is just as guilty of this as the right. If not more so. It seems like it's the burning core of every left wing ideology. Harrower fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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Mar 1, 2017 14:59
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I don't really give a poo poo who uses what bathroom. I say gently caress it and just make all bathrooms unisex. I pee outside all the time so as far as I'm concerned, the whole world is my toilet.
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Mar 1, 2017 15:02
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Harrower posted:Both sides have bad actors who go off reservation. The difference is that the right wing lunatics are publicly denounced while the left rallies around theirs and defends them as paragons of the cause. i dont know anybody that defended people who were rioting and causing property damage in real life or on the internet really so maybe youre thinking of a slightly larger but equally off the reservation group of "actors"
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Harrower posted:Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point but the left is just as guilty of this as the right. If not more so. It seems like it's the burning core of every left wing ideology. though, much like you appear to believe sjwism to be more prolific, from what i have observed, frog man videos get far more views, and have a much broader influence on the internet currently compared to "sjwism" (this is mostly through the comparison of youtube views/reddit activity so its obviously not set in stone. id really like to see a proper study of frog man demographics) SHISHKABOB posted:please dont call it the "frogman" thing. It makes them sound like they are navy seals which they will love.
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Mar 1, 2017 15:11
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I too think both sides are equally bad, one with their dyed hair and "grr people should be respected" and the other with their frog memes and their "we need a future for white children".
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Mar 1, 2017 15:14
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What prison does a transgender go to, should there be unisex prisons too
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Mar 1, 2017 15:17
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Mordor She Wrote posted:I too think both sides are equally bad, one with their dyed hair and "grr people should be respected" and the other with their frog memes and their "we need a future for white children". The difference is that the dyed hair crowd wants to silence dissent by doxxing people and trying to get them fired and would ideally prefer that things like free speech and freedom of expression go away while the frog memers are fun and loud and don't doxx people and try to get them fired.
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Mar 1, 2017 15:18
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Should a female -> male with a vagina use the high school men's locker room? What if s/he is afraid of rape? Why would those rape concerns justified but women who are afraid of a man - > female in their locker room not be justified? Are transgenders allowed to use both facilities? Doesn't that afford them special privileges?
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Mar 1, 2017 15:21
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SHISHKABOB posted:please dont call it the "frogman" thing. It makes them sound like they are navy seals which they will love. This but because I like frogs and they are my friends
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Mar 1, 2017 15:23
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oh wow i never got the connection between "frog men" and Pepe until just now, I am a dumb
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Mar 1, 2017 15:23
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Lunixnerd posted:frog memers are fun and loud and don't doxx people and try to get them fired. its actually really easy to tell which videos are frog man videos, and which videos are critical of frog man videos just by looking at the like:dislike ratio
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Mordor She Wrote posted:I too think both sides are equally bad, one with their dyed hair and "grr people should be respected, except cis white men, gently caress those guys" and the other with their frog memes and their "we need a future for autists to play video games".
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Should a female -> male with a vagina use the high school men's locker room? What if s/he is afraid of rape? Why would those rape concerns justified but women who are afraid of a man - > female in their locker room not be justified? Are transgenders allowed to use both facilities? Doesn't that afford them special privileges? The problem inherent in these questions is the assumption that trans people are more likely than other groups to be sexual deviants you dumb gently caress, if you're afraid of being raped by going into a bathroom/locker room maybe don't use the facilities in a burnt out kkk convention center
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:What prison does a transgender go to, should there be unisex prisons too I know several people who work in corrections, and that is actually a huge issue. Not quite as easily solved as the washrooms problem, sadly. There is no solution that seems clear, quick, and easy that also takes the rights of all inmates into account. The best solution would be, as you suggest, genderless prisons. But that would require a complete, top-down reworking of the entire corrections system, to make it humane to the point where assault and rape became as infrequent on the inside as on the outside. But, let's face it, that's not going to happen in our lifetimes, because far too many people view corrections as being punitive rather than reformative, and absolutely no politician anywhere wants to be seen as "soft on crime."
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Should a female -> male with a vagina use the high school men's locker room? They should be genderless, with single-use facilities for those who are uncomfortable with mixed. Spunky Psycho Ho posted:What if s/he is afraid of rape? Why would those rape concerns justified but women who are afraid of a man - > female in their locker room not be justified? Both are equally "justified." Anybody who is worried about rape should be able to use the single-use facilities. Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Are transgenders allowed to use both facilities? Doesn't that afford them special privileges? Everybody should be able to use whatever facilities they feel comfortable with. Thus everybody has exactly the same privileges. edit: I'd like to point out that there are plenty of cis people who are uncomfortable changing in the presence of cis people of the same gender. What do you suggest they do? Just "get over it?" Tinestram fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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Mar 1, 2017 15:36
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Lunixnerd posted:The difference is that the dyed hair crowd wants to silence dissent by doxxing people and trying to get them fired and would ideally prefer that things like free speech and freedom of expression go away while the frog memers are fun and loud and don't doxx people and try to get them fired. That sounds like free speech to me, you say stupid poo poo and face the non legal consequences of it  Also I too think that 4chan is above doxxing anyone.
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Kjoery posted:oh god no, frog people dogpile people all the time. on youtube, for example, they'll pile into videos with opinions critical of one of their thought leaders and downvote vote it to hell, poo poo up the comment section, harass the person who made the video on twitter, phone up their employers, etc The left is dealing really poorly with their own playbook getting turned against them.
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Harrower posted:The left is dealing really poorly with their own playbook getting turned against them. It's just begun too.
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Kjoery posted:oh god no, frog people dogpile people all the time. on youtube, for example, they'll pile into videos with opinions critical of one of their thought leaders and downvote vote it to hell, poo poo up the comment section, harass the person who made the video on twitter, phone up their employers, etc This is bad and all but your insistence that conservative trolls are any more pervasive than liberal culture critics is based on diddly
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Mar 1, 2017 15:41
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Harrower posted:The left is dealing really poorly with their own playbook getting turned against them. things are getting kinda circular, so instead of writing more words, maybe a person in drag using memes, anime, and jokes in a nazi uniform can explain things better
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Mar 1, 2017 15:41
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Toadvine posted:This is bad and all but your insistence that conservative trolls are any more pervasive than liberal culture critics is based on diddly He's a Canadian missionary who's life's work is preaching socialism to the barbaric American swine
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Mar 1, 2017 15:42
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The brave internet white nationalists finally turn the tides against the horde of social justice warriors by utilizing the secret weapon invented by the left, doxxing! Soon no place will be safe to espouse non white supremacist views, a victory for freedom!
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Harrower posted:The left is dealing really poorly with their own playbook getting turned against them. Seems to me like we are just seeing how the internet changes political discourse.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:The brave internet white nationalists finally turn the tides against the horde of social justice warriors by utilizing the secret weapon invented by the left, doxxing! Soon no place will be safe to espouse non white supremacist views, a victory for freedom! Oh no, someone made an off-color joke on Twitter! Better group - hound their employer until they get fired
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SHISHKABOB posted:a lot of immigrants are refugees who did not enter the country through customs, but under the UN they have rights of amnesty and poo poo. Governments go to great lengths to argue why a certain group of people fleeing a warzone are not actually refugees of war. I am speaking of illegals from the mexican border which are not fleeing a warzone. Also, what is your point? They were not picking up legal immigrants, so they should not have been lumped in with such. But that would not help the narrative that immigrants are being rounded up. This AM that radio station/NPR were doing a story about "Asylum Seekers" coming across the border into Manitoba CA, fleeing from the evil jackboots of the USA who want to round them up. "Dozens" are crossing the border and they stated it was a real burden covering the associated costs. gently caress liberals. Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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Mar 1, 2017 15:45
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Oh no, someone made an off-color joke on Twitter! Better group - hound their employer until they get fired Maybe you should support better employee protections if you don't want this to happen.
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Fog Tripper posted:gently caress liberals. These people aren't liberals, they're weak and herd like individuals that attach themselves to whatever power structure there is in order to feel better about their complete lack of personality or individuality. That's why they're so afraid of Nazis, because deep down they want to be one
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Oh no, someone made an off-color joke on Twitter! Better group - hound their employer until they get fired The humanity, think of the poor person who just wanted to go on social media with their real name and espouse genocide for the mud races now losing their job at a company for saying such things. The most dire injustice of our time imo.
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runupon cracker posted:I know several people who work in corrections, and that is actually a huge issue. Not quite as easily solved as the washrooms problem, sadly. There is no solution that seems clear, quick, and easy that also takes the rights of all inmates into account. I like how you think the answer to a lot of problems is to make them genderless. Making prisons genderless is a horrible idea as well. The only way it could possibly work would be if everyone is segregated which would be very punitive.
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Fog Tripper posted:I am speaking of illegals from the mexican border which are not fleeing a warzone. Also, what is your point? They were not picking up legal immigrants, so they should not have been lumped in with such. But that would not help the narrative that immigrants are being rounded up. So why should people be charitable to right wingers?
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Mordor She Wrote posted:The humanity, think of the poor person who just wanted to go on social media with their real name and espouse genocide for the mud races now losing their job at a company for saying such things. The most dire injustice of our time imo. Do you think it's always espousing genocide that results in this? Or did things go too far
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Mar 1, 2017 15:48
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:He's a Canadian missionary who's life's work is preaching socialism to the barbaric American swine Good. I'm a socialist too fyi and I hope he's making inroads with Americans
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Do you think it's always espousing genocide that results in this? Or did things go too far It's either that or burn the gays, or put immigrant children in death camps, so it's all fairly interchangeable.
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Toadvine posted:Good. I'm a socialist too fyi and I hope he's making inroads with Americans We're all socialists, but not in this incarnation of what they're trying to peddle
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Mordor She Wrote posted:It's either that or burn the gays, or put immigrant children in death camps, so it's all fairly interchangeable. It's saying Michelle Obama looks like an ape in heels, or saying Patton Oswalts wife is dead
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Krustic posted:I like how you think the answer to a lot of problems is to make them genderless. Making prisons genderless is a horrible idea as well. The only way it could possibly work would be if everyone is segregated which would be very punitive. I don't think you read my whole post. If corrections were reformed to the point where prison rape was effectively eliminated, why would genderless prisons be a "horrible idea?"
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Toadvine posted:Good. I'm a socialist too fyi and I hope he's making inroads with Americans so many people across the internet have been calling me a liberal cuck when participating in these discussions. the consistency is impressive, as well as the complete off-base nature of the accusation.
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