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thespaceinvader posted:Standard superdash plus lothal rebel with Hera, FCS, ABT and something else is a solid build I'm not up to speed on my X-wang acronyms. Could you spell them out for me, please?
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oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...
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IronSaber posted:I'm not up to speed on my X-wang acronyms. Could you spell them out for me, please? Fire Control Systems, Autoblaster Turret. I prefer the version with Accuracy Corrector and Autoblaster Turret (a real mean combo) Superdash is Dash Rendar, Outrider Title, Heavy Laser Cannon, Kanan Jarrus crew (or Kyle Katarn crew), Push the Limit, and Engine Upgrade.
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IronSaber posted:I'm not up to speed on my X-wang acronyms. Could you spell them out for me, please? Super Dash is Push the Limit, title, Kanan Jarrus, Heavy Laser Cannon and Engine Upgrade. FCS is Fire-Control System, ABT is...Autoblaster Turret, I guess?
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Excellent, thank you! *E* Gonna post this here so I can retrieve it later for experimentation. I threw in Expertise on the YT for giggles. Hera Syndulla (40) Accuracy Corrector (3) Autoblaster Turret (2) Dash Rendar (36) Expertise (4) Heavy Laser Cannon (7) Kanan Jarrus (3) Outrider (5) Total: 100 View in Yet Another Squad Builder IronSaber fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Feb 28, 2017 |
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Feb 28, 2017 22:24
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Yeah, if the points are there, definitely do Accuracy Correcter and Autoblaster Turret. That makes a Range 1 no-fly zone around the Ghost.
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IronSaber posted:Excellent, thank you! Kanan is pointless unless you're getting stressed, and doesn't add anything. Hera costs way too much for what you get out of her in this build.
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Feb 28, 2017 22:32
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Fair enough. What if... I swapped out Kanan for Lando on the YT, and had a Kanan Ghost with Hera and Nien Nunb?
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thespaceinvader posted:Kanan is pointless unless you're getting stressed, and doesn't add anything. Not necessarily. If he does get stressed, then expertise doesn't fire, and there alot of things that can stress you .
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IronSaber posted:Fair enough. What if... I swapped out Kanan for Lando on the YT, and had a Kanan Ghost with Hera and Nien Nunb? If you're building it for fun, go for it. There are no rules! If you're wanting to take this to tournaments, reconsider. Thing about the VCX-100 is that the named, unique pilots are really only worth their points if you're pairing them with an attack shuttle and the Ghost/Phantom titles. The generic Lothal Rebel (with Hera crew added) is the best large ship blocker that Rebels have (I'd tie it with a Jumpmaster 5000 for the best blocker in the game). You can pretty much go anywhere with it. There was a build recently that was pretty popular with 2 Lothal Rebels + Autoblaster Turret + Accuracy Corrector plus a Y Wing with Autoblaster Turret. It's successful because there's tons of health to chew through, and the Range 1 band on a big ship like that is pretty big. It's sort of fallen out of favor because TLTs are back and can eat that alive from a safe distance, and there are fewer aces out there reliant on green dice. Kanan with either Twin Laser Turret or Ion Cannon Turret and the ghost/phantom title is a kick in the pants. The build will typically have Fire Control Systems and some crew to generate a lot of focus tokens (either Rey or Recon Specialist). He's paired with Biggs, and the idea there is to keep Biggs alive as long as possible (using Kanan's ability to reduce incoming red dice) while the Ghost dumps out big damage with 2 attacks from the ship each round. Brobots clobber this list, because they can pretty reliably kill Biggs in 1 or 2 rounds of shooting and then trade punches vs. the zero agility Ghost.
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Remind me what a 'brobot' is?
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IronSaber posted:Remind me what a 'brobot' is? Two IGs with titles. Each about 50 points.
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Brobots vanished over night here. They were everywhere before, but I can't say I've even seen a list in months.
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canyonero posted:There's a few variations. I like Vess with Tractor, Quickdraw with Expertise, Sabacc with just Trickshot and no LWF. I feel like swapping Tie/D Vessery for Expertise Brath might be worth trying. People don't like the striker title? And that seems to be 99 points, I'm guessing to try and mess with Fenn. And Bro bots seem to be agreed to be good, fun, and not presently powerful enough to run competitively.
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Wazzu posted:People don't like the striker title? And that seems to be 99 points, I'm guessing to try and mess with Fenn. You'd have to be a real scrub not to take the Striker title
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Wazzu posted:People don't like the striker title? And that seems to be 99 points, I'm guessing to try and mess with Fenn. Brobots won the Phoenix regional a month ago.
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Well flown brobots can still clean up, they just aren't the new hotness and a few bad matchups are tough for them.
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And Vassal now has auto-bumping... https://teamcovenant.com/star-wars-x-wing/x-wing-vassal-module-6-5-0
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Wazzu posted:People don't like the striker title? And that seems to be 99 points, I'm guessing to try and mess with Fenn. Nah I just forgot AA on Sabacc. That title is so good. Paratanni is stuck at 100, so getting a bid can be worth it for some lists. World's Schedule and limited Prize info is up: https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/op/world-championships-may/tournament-details/ I'm going to try for Day 1A so I can do all the side events. I was going to do Destiny too but given their new prize system, it seems like it's fine to stick with a single game. Anyone planning on going? They're using a real ticketing vendor this year. canyonero fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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 FFG jumping on the carnival-style prize wall MTG events system, I see.In other news, looks like Aaron is doing a fine Goatse-inspired planet for the Stele Open mat this year: 
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Missing the ring.
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Are they not doing reduced prices for more than 1 event this year? So your 2nd event is also $70?
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Yeah it specifically calls out that each World Championship you participate in will cost $70. I was going to do X-Wing and Destiny just for the Destiny deckbox, but I'll just do X-wing side events and save the $70. Though you can do any and all side events for free at least.
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More homebrew for you all
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So, I'm heading to the Endor System Open this weekend. I'm guessing there will be a crap-ton of Paratanni around, and probably more than a few Commonwealth Defender lists as well. I originally just wanted to bring Paratanni myself, since I've been playing it/practicing against it for the last month or so. Seeing how prevalent the list has become I've been trying to figure out a way to counter it while also harnessing some of what makes the list work. I've used this list to limited success: Asajj Ventress — Lancer-class Pursuit Craft 37 Attanni Mindlink 1 Latts Razzi 2 Ship Total: 40 Fenn Rau — Protectorate Starfighter 28 Attanni Mindlink 1 Autothrusters 2 Concord Dawn Protector 1 Ship Total: 32 Palob Godalhi — HWK-290 20 Attanni Mindlink 1 Dorsal Turret 3 4-LOM 1 Cloaking Device 2 Ship Total: 27 Total:99 I realize that dropping Manaroo seems crazy on paper, but hear me out! With the 1 point initiative bid I can guarantee I have initiative, and if I can fly Palob right it means I get to snatch my opponent's focus token before he gets a chance to pass it off of Manaroo, which seems pretty good. Palob has the added bonus of being great against Defenders too, since he can snag their evade token. The one major problem that usually comes up is that if the cloaking device breaks at an inopportune time, it usually signals my inevitable defeat. Otherwise it seems to do alright, so long as I make good calls on my maneuvers. Am I crazy for trying to mess with an extremely proven formula? Or worse, for pinning my hopes and dreams onto a Hawk with a cloaking device? I've also tried an alternate build that drops 4-LOM and Dorsal Turret in favor of Autoblaster Turret and Stygium, which tends to do better against lists like Thug Life, but I'm having a hard time settling on one vs the other.
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Nah that's solid. There was a version with Fenn, Asajj, and teroch that did well at yavin with a similar concept. Had to drop the title on both protectorates to fit it tho. Edit although I'd probably go for a TLT if there is any way to find the points.
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I played FennZuckMan vs a mindlink list with TLT Palob and a bunch of mangler Sycks. His Palob, with initiative, pretty much neutered Manaroo's usefulness. He was real good about taking target locks on Manaroo also, so not only did I rarely have a focus token on Manaroo to pass, but I didn't want to take a target lock and pass it along with the red locks to a higher value target. It essentially put Manaroo on a countdown, and made me play more aggressively than I wanted to with my other pieces.
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Hmm, white 2 T-Rolls. I see.
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canyoneer posted:I played FennZuckMan vs a mindlink list with TLT Palob and a bunch of mangler Sycks. His Palob, with initiative, pretty much neutered Manaroo's usefulness. Yeah but Fenn and Zuck should be able to erase him more or less instantly. 
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The figure on the left can be either Kylo or Vader. The placement of the vents actually make it look more like Kylo (or a tie fighter pilot), which got me thinking that this figure on the right can be a straight up Finn with brown jacket/black pants. Maybe a blue glow/outline like the movie posters with him holding the lightsaber. Would that be better than a white jacket/black pants stormtrooper with imperial insignia? Chill la Chill fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Chill la Chill posted:The figure on the left can be either Kylo or Vader. The placement of the vents actually make it look more like Kylo (or a tie fighter pilot), which got me thinking that this figure on the right can be a straight up Finn with brown jacket/black pants. Maybe a blue glow/outline like the movie posters with him holding the lightsaber. Would that be better than a white jacket/black pants stormtrooper with imperial insignia? I think the stormtrooper would be more ~thematically appropriate~ and then you can do a Finn of Finnland on a Falcon
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so I bought this thing. Have tourney on Sunday will give you guys a rundown of how it works. Also we are streaming some games there. Will post the link if I am on camera.
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Chill la Chill posted:The figure on the left can be either Kylo or Vader. The placement of the vents actually make it look more like Kylo (or a tie fighter pilot), which got me thinking that this figure on the right can be a straight up Finn with brown jacket/black pants. Maybe a blue glow/outline like the movie posters with him holding the lightsaber. Would that be better than a white jacket/black pants stormtrooper with imperial insignia? flip the guy on the right and make it a bare chested Poe with the leather jacket.
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Chill la Chill posted:The figure on the left can be either Kylo or Vader. The placement of the vents actually make it look more like Kylo (or a tie fighter pilot), which got me thinking that this figure on the right can be a straight up Finn with brown jacket/black pants. Maybe a blue glow/outline like the movie posters with him holding the lightsaber. Would that be better than a white jacket/black pants stormtrooper with imperial insignia? You really need to make those pants assless chaps
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banned from Starbucks posted:flip the guy on the right and make it a bare chested Poe with the leather jacket. Raged posted:You really need to make those pants assless chaps Chill la Chill fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Mar 2, 2017 |
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bunnyofdoom posted:so I bought this thing. Have tourney on Sunday will give you guys a rundown of how it works. Improbable Lobster posted:I think the stormtrooper would be more ~thematically appropriate~ and then you can do a Finn of Finnland on a Falcon
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Here's a miniswarm I built out of what I have. Which is to say, both core sets, Imp Aces, and one TInt, TF and TF/fo. The plan is to fly in a formation, a row of three and a row of two, the lower ps in front, and just scream into range one and shoot like mad. I thought of Carnor instead of Soontir, but being in the back, I don't feel like he'll get into range of the baddies enough. Thought? Swarm With Cheese (100) Soontir Fel (30) - TIE Interceptor Push The Limit (3) "Howlrunner" (18) - TIE Fighter "Omega Ace" (20) - TIE/FO Fighter Mauler Mithel (17) - TIE Fighter Winged Gundark (15) - TIE Fighter
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Soontir is not at home in a swarm. He is an arc dodger, so he's going to want some breathing room. That being said, you're missing Autothrusters without which he will die like a dog to anything with a turret. I honestly think you'd be better with two more TIEs instead. You should have the ships, as I count 6 TIE models there.
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TheCenturion posted:Here's a miniswarm I built out of what I have. Which is to say, both core sets, Imp Aces, and one TInt, TF and TF/fo. You're on the right track of ace + miniswarm. As it is right now, I'd swap Soontir for Omega Leader and give Push the Limit to Omega Ace. PtL and OA's pilot ability make for some brutal synergy, and everything you need for OL to be most effective came in the box with him (Juke and Comm Relay). Mauler and Winged Gundark become your bait, while OL (backed up by Howlrunner) and OA are the closers. Something like this, which is fairly close to what you already had: quote:Swarm With Cheese (99)
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Icon Of Sin posted:You're on the right track of ace + miniswarm. As it is right now, I'd swap Soontir for Omega Leader and give Push the Limit to Omega Ace. PtL and OA's pilot ability make for some brutal synergy, and everything you need for OL to be most effective came in the box with him (Juke and Comm Relay). Mauler and Winged Gundark become your bait, while OL (backed up by Howlrunner) and OA are the closers. Something like this, which is fairly close to what you already had: I like that swarm. Tricky part, as with all named TIEs, is remembering all your triggers and abilities
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canyoneer posted:I like that swarm. Tricky part, as with all named TIEs, is remembering all your triggers and abilities Yea...that's the drawback. I'd love to run the Sinister 6 list of TIE Fighters, but having to remember 6 different pilot abilities and their timing windows would be a massive pain. Howlrunner, Mauler Mithel, Backstabber, Dark Curse, Winged Gundark, and Night Beast all at once comes to 97 points... 
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