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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
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193 | 37.84% |
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TinTower posted:The worst effect the anti-semitism furore in Labour had was that it allowed the people who only two years ago were basically saying "look at the Jew and how he's different, you shouldn't vote for him" have been able to recreate themselves as the Only Defenders of the Jewish Minority. yeah the fact that milliband had to eat a bacon sandwich to prove he wasn't that jewish was ridiculous
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I think the demographic that practices the jewish religion is too diverse to make any sort of judgement like that - they have the same proportion of idiots as the rest of the population
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Mar 3, 2017 00:57
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I heard that his house has two kitchens. These kosher types stealing spare kitchens from hard working Christians just so they don't get any meat in their dairy. Couldn't make it up.
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Mar 3, 2017 00:59
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jabby posted:Explains why their share of the vote actually went down. I'm sure the split of the vote by a new independent candidate had nothing to do with the result. Their vote went down relative to the May 2016 locals. The Tories only got 17% of the vote in the ward in 2014, for example. They then shot up like a rocket in the 2016 locals.
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Trickjaw posted:Why do the racists who pop up on QT invariably dress up like colour blind clowns? They don't see colour innit
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Hypocrisy is, to the surprise of none of us, endemic. Lord Tebbit relied on EU workers:https://twitter.com/makyjanka/status/837042329466859524 Even in an age of austerity, aid works. We have to keep giving - David Cameron
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Pissflaps posted:I'm saying they may not have found Shami Chakrabarti's report very convincing. So they voted for the people who are more likely to be overtly anti-Semitic? Rather than the secret anti-Semites?
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Mar 3, 2017 01:57
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I mean they might still be knobheads even if they're Jewish, they might just like voting for tories.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean they might still be knobheads even if they're Jewish, they might just like voting for tories. They could have the older pro-business social conservative South Asian vote sewn up if they stopped being racist dicks for a moment.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean they might still be knobheads even if they're Jewish, they might just like voting for tories. in the midst of all of the discussion about the improper conflation of anti-zionism and anti-semitism, has everyone forgotten that your average jewish person is probably not any more well informed than anyone else, and probably thus not really keen on the distinction? "Israel bad" is controversial among the non-Jewish public. Do we expect it to sit well with Jewish people just because they're Jewish?
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I don't think I've ever known a tory voter I wouldn't describe as a knobhead, even entirely separately from their voting habits.
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Mar 3, 2017 02:42
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I'm going to wear my red pants tomorrow thanks to this thread. Haters gonna hate. hakimashou fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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Mar 3, 2017 03:36
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Regarde Aduck posted:So they voted for the people who are more likely to be overtly anti-Semitic? Rather than the secret anti-Semites? Or they voted for neither whereas in the past they would have voted for Labour.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean they might still be knobheads even if they're Jewish, they might just like voting for tories. Tbh we are like other religions where you have your ultra-religious people, the people who go to a weekly service, and then you have the huge block of people who will turn up at the synagogue for major religious things twice a year if we can be bothered. Last two groups care far far more about what's happening in the UK than they do about Israel.
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hakimashou posted:I'm going to wear my red pants tomorrow thanks to this thread. I wore red pants yesterday, but no one could tell because they were under my trousers. 
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Mar 3, 2017 08:25
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39140434/freddo-chocolate-bar-price-increases-to-30p-causing-outrage-online This is bad for Corbyn
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Miftan posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39140434/freddo-chocolate-bar-price-increases-to-30p-causing-outrage-online Idea for the Corbyn relaunch: "Make Freddos 10p Again"
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Mar 3, 2017 09:17
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Baron Corbyn posted:Idea for the Corbyn relaunch: "Make Freddos 10p Again" Probably even get flaps' vote with that kind of policy!
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Miftan posted:Probably even get flaps' vote with that kind of policy! No, Pissflaps principles are more important than some quick vote-grabbing. Almost like some leader of the Labour party we all know.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/03/labour-party-lost-members-mid-2016quote:Labour has lost nearly 26,000 members since last summer, according to leaked data.
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Mar 3, 2017 09:49
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lol at snapchat i'm sure its going to end well
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Jose posted:lol at snapchat i'm sure its going to end well
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LemonDrizzle posted:having actual business models and profits is passé these days don't you know? clearly since they got $28 billion lol. wonder if the tech or carbon bubbles will burst first
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Mar 3, 2017 10:45
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OwlFancier posted:I don't think I've ever known a tory voter I wouldn't describe as a knobhead, even entirely separately from their voting habits. You never met my gran. Then again, she started voting Tory in the 30s because the alternative was Bolshevik Labour and stopped in the 70s because she didn't think Thatcher and her ilk were real Tories.
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Mar 3, 2017 10:57
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Wait, when did we start taking council by-elections seriously again? I missed the memo.
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mfcrocker posted:Wait, when did we start taking council by-elections seriously again? I missed the memo. It's taken seriously when Labour loses.
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Mar 3, 2017 11:48
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Nobody's talked about it for hours and the only person to give it much thought was a CDFer desperately attempting to mitigate the loss. There is, however, one person wha thinks they're worth talking about. Pissflaps fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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Mar 3, 2017 11:53
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Jedit posted:You never met my gran. Then again, she started voting Tory in the 30s because the alternative was Bolshevik Labour and stopped in the 70s because she didn't think Thatcher and her ilk were real Tories. I suppose actual conservatism (as in not changing things too quickly, maintaining the status quo) isn't inherently disagreeable. Can see why she thought the neoliberal party that they turned into is bad. Tories bad.
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Mar 3, 2017 12:56
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I only posted about it to make a joke about the Kersal Massive.  https://twitter.com/lukemartin_dl/status/837634618891304960
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winegums posted:I suppose actual conservatism (as in not changing things too quickly, maintaining the status quo) isn't inherently disagreeable. Can see why she thought the neoliberal party that they turned into is bad. Tories bad. Few political systems are really objectionable so long as the leaders know that they represent everyone and not just the monied classes. Removing that sense of noblesse oblige is what Thatcher did to gently caress everything.
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mfcrocker posted:Wait, when did we start taking council by-elections seriously again? I missed the memo. They aren't important in isolation but the patterns they show can tell you lots of things.
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Pissflaps posted:Nobody's talked about it for hours and the only person to give it much thought was a CDFer desperately attempting to mitigate the loss. about[/url]. Who reads SA outside of work hours? Zalakwe posted:They aren't important in isolation but the patterns they show can tell you lots of things. Bollocks, there's almost always local factors that just make no sense to extrapolate to the national picture. Like here with the independent vote split.
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Mar 3, 2017 13:18
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Tell that to Jeremy.
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Pissflaps posted:Tell that to Jeremy. Not defending that, who the gently caress cares about a parish council election holy poo poo cmon Jezza
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A sad day for expert Pointless players and pursuers of a 32 county antiglobalist Republic alike. e: updated answer list (may be invalid by the end of the day) 
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mfcrocker posted:Bollocks, there's almost always local factors that just make no sense to extrapolate to the national picture. Like here with the independent vote split. How many local campaigns have you been involved in? I have been involved in a lot and trust me when I say people will be picking GE targets using local by-election data and they are right to. Ever a cursory look at what has happened since Christmas shows a pattern. Must be some number of local issues to be causing 20% plus Lib Dem swings half way across the country, it's almost as if a national issue is at play. Stick your fingers in your ears if you like, there are lots of other indicators that show how terribly Labour are doing currently. What's interesting is actually where the Tories are doing badly, they will be worried about Cornwall. Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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Zalakwe posted:How many local campaigns have you been involved in? I have been involved in a lot and trust me when I say people will be picking GE targets using local by-election data and they are right to. Ever a cursory look at what's happens since Christmas shows a pattern This is the thing, Labour made a net gain of seats in England at the last election (lost some of course but gained more) and lost loads in Scotland but to the SNP, not the Tories. The Tories went from largest party in a coalition to a majority government because of the collapse of the Lib Dems (27 seats went from Lib Dem to Tory). So the glorious #libdemfightback is a potential problem for the Tories and might even be good for Corbyn.
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