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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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| Jeremy Corbyn |
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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
| Angus Robertson |
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20 | 3.92% |
| Tim Farron |
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9 | 1.76% |
| Paul Ukips |
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7 | 1.37% |
| Robot Lenin |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
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Foxtrot_13 posted:All it would take is a South African style truth and reconciliation commission and his political career would be berried with his admission of what he did. Oh, that was meant to happen over the Boston College tapes but it never did. He was brought in for questioning a few years ago over Jean McConville but obviously he wasn't charged. In any case, even Paisley managed to achieve "harmless old man" status in the end. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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Gerry Adams is a meme man now, he is untouchable
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Mar 3, 2017 22:43
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Foxtrot_13 posted:It's because young people have no idea what he got up to during the troubles and just see an affable old man. Same thing with people who think Guy Fawkes was a cool dude because he wanted to blow up politicians. In nationalist parts of Ireland, you think that Gerry Adams killing brits would play badly?
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Mar 3, 2017 22:43
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Failing to kneecap his brother on the otherhand
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kustomkarkommando posted:Excuse me but Gerry Adams was never in the IRA don't you know Fun story involving my uncle in law and Gerry Adams. Back in the early 80's some IRA guy was shot dead, forget who was only 2 at the time. He was from a family in my grandmother's area. So my whole family knew their older family not the dead young guy. Anyway my uncle in law was a mad bastard back then, a real chuckie but to cowardly to do anything. Also back then he had a big gently caress off bushy brown/black beard and wore glasses like Gerry Adams. Our whole family decided no to go to the funeral, we didn't know the dead guy really and we knew there was going to be RUC police at it taking pics and videos. But dumb gently caress uncle-in-law went. When he got to the funeral he had a crowd around him at all times, shaking his hand, thanking him for coming, etc. He didn't twig that they all thought HE was Gerry Adams until he saw police constantly watching him and taking pics of the car he drove in with (his own). We got the local newspaper the next day asking if it was Gerry or our uncle in law as they were doubtful if they should run a story on it or not. Edit: Fun legend No 2. The legend why the lifts in Stormount have curtains on the mirrors. I was told this when I worked there for 6 months, not sure if true or not. One day Ian Paisley Snr was running to the lift and shouted to hold it from whoever was inside. The person held it, but it was Gerry Adams, and it was too late to get out. So both in the lift, they stared away from each other. But the lift had mirrors. So they were looking at each other backs. A request to fit the lifts with curtains came shortly after. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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Mar 3, 2017 22:58
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kustomkarkommando posted:Failing to kneecap his brother on the otherhand Distant cousin got kneecapped, the IRA were incredibly apologetic when they realised it was the wrong house. Didn't take back my uncle's heart attack and death, tho. I'm more puzzled by Foxtrot not realising that he's on the wrong side of his own metaphor.
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Mar 3, 2017 23:05
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I'm in London and old enough to remember the IRA setting off bombs here but can't help lining Gerry Adams on Twitter. He's a loveable and dotty old guy who's learnt to use the internet and loves it.
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Mar 3, 2017 23:13
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Sure, if Martin McGuinness can go to white tie events and meet the Queen, Gerry Adams can be silly on Twitter.
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Mar 3, 2017 23:18
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Spangly A posted:Distant cousin got kneecapped, the IRA were incredibly apologetic when they realised it was the wrong house. Didn't take back my uncle's heart attack and death, tho. So that's why you don't like Tony blair
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Mar 3, 2017 23:49
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Wheat Loaf posted:Sure, if Martin McGuinness can go to white tie events and meet the Queen, Gerry Adams can be silly on Twitter. I mean, if he starts filling his rubber ducks with Semtex, then we can reconsider Adams' value to peace generally but until then...
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Mar 3, 2017 23:59
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Spangly A posted:Gerry Adams continued ability to appeal to young people amazes me He's like a more appealing rolf harris without the noncing.
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Is he good at drawing?
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The best ducks you ever saw.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=750gwGnbAmI lmao e: this is Mike Nesbitt's least magnanimous leaving speech ever jBrereton fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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OwlFancier posted:He's like a more appealing rolf harris without the noncing.
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One piece of good news: the most seats the DUP can get is 30. Will almost certainly only win 29; if Eamonn McCann's lucky, 28. Sadly, though, a DUP FM is almost certain, unless the PBP or Greens change their designation to Nationalist to give SF the right to nominate as the largest party of the largest community. TinTower fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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Mar 4, 2017 00:41
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TinTower posted:One piece of good news: the most seats the DUP can get is 30. Will almost certainly only win 29; if Eamonn McCann's lucky, 28. If they get less than 30 don't they lose their ability to veto progressive legislation?
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TinTower posted:One piece of good news: the most seats the DUP can get is 30. Will almost certainly only win 29; if Eamonn McCann's lucky, 28. Changing designations wouldn't do it, there's a deliberate fiddly out clause Northern Ireland (St Andrews Agreement) Act 2006 16C(6) posted:(6)If at any time the party which is the largest political party of the largest political designation is not the largest political party— So if Nationalist became the largest designation through someone jumping sides, if SF is one seat shy of the DUP the DUP would still retain the right to nominate first minister by virtue of being the largest political party
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Mar 4, 2017 01:07
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I did not know that NI had official rules about dealing with nationalists/unionists. That's... frankly a remarkably good idea but I'm astonished people managed to agree to it.
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jabby posted:If they get less than 30 don't they lose their ability to veto progressive legislation? The actual figure is 29 because you can bet that Jim Allister thinks that even the DUP are a little bit too queer-loving, but yes.
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OwlFancier posted:I did not know that NI had official rules about dealing with nationalists/unionists. lol of course we do
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OwlFancier posted:I did not know that NI had official rules about dealing with nationalists/unionists. It is the only way we are able to function. quote:That's... frankly a remarkably good idea but I'm astonished people managed to agree to it. Different time and different people.
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Mar 4, 2017 01:15
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kustomkarkommando posted:Changing designations wouldn't do it, there's a deliberate fiddly out clause What if, as isn't improbable, the DUP and SF tie at 28-28 and PBP jump ship (which would possibly tie the community-wide totals too)?
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OwlFancier posted:I did not know that NI had official rules about dealing with nationalists/unionists.
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TinTower posted:What if, as isn't improbable, the DUP and SF tie at 28-28 and PBP jump ship (which would possibly tie the community-wide totals too)? You have Jim Allister (TUV) and Claire Sugden (Ind) to add to the Unionist count so you'd need to muster two defectors. The Greens wouldn't be up for that - I doubt you'll get an Alliance jumper Only time there was tactical redesignation was when Alliance went Unionist for like one day to save Trimble during the wobbly decommissioning days
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kustomkarkommando posted:You have Jim Allister (TUV) and Claire Sugden (Ind) to add to the Unionist count so you'd need to muster two defectors. The Greens wouldn't be up for that - I doubt you'll get an Alliance jumper The SDLP are projected to finish on two more than the UUP, I believe. So only the PBP would need to go Nationalist.
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Mar 4, 2017 01:22
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I mean if the UUP weren't hosed before this election the closeness of this may mean they are now - I expect in the multi-month negotiations we'll get a rejiggering of the First Minister position so that it's just First Ministers (no deputy) who the largest party in the largest designation each have a right to nominate for with any vague illusion of primacy in position (and it is only an illusion now) officially dispelled and both names being put forward and voted on at the same time
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TinTower posted:The SDLP are projected to finish on two more than the UUP, I believe. So only the PBP would need to go Nationalist. If the SDLP finish on 12, SF will finish on 27 - they are competing for the last seat in the same constituency
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kustomkarkommando posted:If the SDLP finish on 12, SF will finish on 27 - they are competing for the last seat in the same constituency Ah, yeah, I realised that as soon as my maths didn't add up. Still, I think a PBP jump if SF win the East Londonderry seat would have 28-28 and 40-40.
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kustomkarkommando posted:I mean if the UUP weren't hosed before this election the closeness of this may mean they are now - I expect in the multi-month negotiations we'll get a rejiggering of the First Minister position so that it's just First Ministers (no deputy) who the largest party in the largest designation each have a right to nominate for with any vague illusion of primacy in position (and it is only an illusion now) officially dispelled and both names being put forward and voted on at the same time
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TinTower posted:Ah, yeah, I realised that as soon as my maths didn't add up. Still, I think a PBP jump if SF win the East Londonderry seat would have 28-28 and 40-40. It would be super deadlock yeah but I can't see PBP handing SF the ultimate prize, they seemed more than a little bitter over the conduct of the Belfast West election
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Breath Ray posted:they voted to opt out of eu funding and hmg can now make up the shortfall..if they even need funding now that the fishing industry can get off its knees We don't live in the 15th Century. Fishing currently makes up 0.05% of the GDP of the UK. Fishing is not a major part of a developed economy and it never will be. Contact lenses are a bigger part of the UK GDP than fishing. The manufacture of aircraft parts is a bigger part of the UK economy than the entire agricultural sector. Processed goods are the heart of the UK economy, high value primary resources(like oil) and specialist services(especially banking) round out the rest. Looking at the low value agriculture sector as the driver of an economic miracle is foolish.
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TinTower posted:Ah, yeah, I realised that as soon as my maths didn't add up. Still, I think a PBP jump if SF win the East Londonderry seat would have 28-28 and 40-40. I don't see Carroll redesignating after he and McCann made such a big showboat of designating as socialists instead of unionists or nationalists last time around. Still, I'm ready to be surprised.
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Mar 4, 2017 01:31
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If Carroll jumped id be concerned about the Alliance vote holding up in future elections, even liberal unionists could get spooked
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https://twitter.com/belfastboy71/status/837768736824258560
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Mar 4, 2017 01:52
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I feel like this is the obvious rebuttal.
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Paxman posted:I'm in London and old enough to remember the IRA setting off bombs here but can't help lining Gerry Adams on Twitter. He's a loveable and dotty old guy who's learnt to use the internet and loves it. I just realised that "I'm in London and old enough to remember the IRA setting off bombs here" is actually something people feel the need to qualify (last bomb in London was the South Quay one in 96) and now I feel old  Two guys I knew died in that and my friends dad was left permanently brain-damaged so I find it a little harder to see Gerry Adams as a bearded old rogue, personally.
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Mar 4, 2017 08:12
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I'm old enough to remember when the councils and stations had to remove the bins everywhere, our high streets were littered with McDonald's styrofoam boxes and it was disgusting. There is still some weird law in a lot of places about not having bins near government buildings.
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learnincurve posted:I'm old enough to remember when the councils and stations had to remove the bins everywhere...
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Undead Hippo posted:We don't live in the 15th Century. Fishing currently makes up 0.05% of the GDP of the UK. Fishing is not a major part of a developed economy and it never will be. Contact lenses are a bigger part of the UK GDP than fishing. The manufacture of aircraft parts is a bigger part of the UK economy than the entire agricultural sector. Processed goods are the heart of the UK economy, high value primary resources(like oil) and specialist services(especially banking) round out the rest. Looking at the low value agriculture sector as the driver of an economic miracle is foolish. You'd be surprised at the range of products you can create through processing fish.
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